What exactly will everybody be watching vs. GSW?

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

More subtle? I wonder why I'm not surprised at all. Sure, you said "I do think he is, so I'm good with trying it"

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:lol You say that as if it's not the entire point I was making. Kawhi on Draymond is not in the Warriors' favor, or at least it shouldn't be. Both Kawhi and Green have checked bigger, stronger players up and down the court. And again, even if it's a draw or slightly in favor of Green, taking the ball out of Curry's hands in favor of a post-up is like completely ideal.

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It's obvious to you that Kerr will put Green on Kawhi all game but I expect Harrison to draw the assignment of guarding Kawhi...I'll enjoy to watch him posting over Barnes if Pop gives him the chance.

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Dude, seriously, what planet are you from? I NEVER said Kerr was going to put Green on Kawhi. In fact, the quote you selected in assuming the opposite. That Kawhi checks Green in no way means that it's the other way down the court, hence me saying that the Spurs don't get to choose who guards Leonard. No way they play their PF on a three and leave a small to check LMA or West. And since you have a hard time believing it, I want Kawhi to post up Barnes. I just don't want the offense to revolve around that, because the Warriors are pretty experienced handling teams trying to post them up. It's only going to work if the the Spurs are smart about it.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

:lol You say that as if it's not the entire point I was making. Kawhi on Draymond is not in the Warriors' favor, or at least it shouldn't be. Both Kawhi and Green have checked bigger, stronger players up and down the court. And again, even if it's a draw or slightly in favor of Green, taking the ball out of Curry's hands in favor of a post-up is like completely ideal.



Dude, seriously, what planet are you from? I NEVER said Kerr was going to put Green on Kawhi. In fact, the quote you selected in assuming the opposite. That Kawhi checks Green in no way means that it's the other way down the court, hence me saying that the Spurs don't get to choose who guards Leonard. No way they play their PF on a three and leave a small to check LMA or West. And since you have a hard time believing it, I want Kawhi to post up Barnes. I just don't want the offense to revolve around that, because the Warriors are pretty experienced handling teams trying to post them up. It's only going to work if the the Spurs are smart about it.

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Like me? I've said before that I want the Spurs to play Kawhi in the post more often but it doesn't mean "in every possession" or "put Kawhi in the post and just run the offense through him all game"

I want to see a lot of ball pressure on Curry. He is a good dribbler, but I'm not convinced that he is especially good at protecting the ball. I feel like he can be susceptible to turning the ball over if pressured. Also, the more pressure that is put on him the more their offence is disrupted. I would like to see him have to work hard to get into their offensive sets.

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Like me? I've said before that I want the Spurs to play Kawhi in the post more often but it doesn't mean "in every possession" or "put Kawhi in the post and just run the offense through him all game"

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You're struggling with semantics. I'm not saying that I don't want Kawhi to post up every possession. That's so obvious, I don't need to say it. But I don't want the Spurs to fall into the trap of thinking you are going to beat the Warriors by straight-posting them up. That's a strategy GS is VERY used to having to defend. So if they can get Kawhi good position without letting the help get there, that's awesome. But this isn't a game for the Spurs to prioritize giving Kawhi the ball down low.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Personally, the big rotation.
I don't think Pop is being CIA Pop. Tim has looked slower and been off. He hasn't looked right for a few games now. He could probably play but not optimally and if he wasn't going to be optimal in this game, why play him. You can only beat GSW playing your best and he wasn't going to do that at 50%. We'll see a lot of Lamarcus at the 5 probably and he's the one that will need to bring it. We are not winning this game if Lamarcus doesn't play like a star.

After that, athough I don't think he will play, I am curious whether POP will use Anderson for some minutes. He has somewhat of an advantage over other big s like Butler and Bonner in that he can handle switches well and has been good defending the PNR. On the other hand, he has limited experience as a 4. POP has played him more as a perimeter player and he might be overmatched, but if you want to know for sure if he is, this is the game to find out.

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I was more interested in seeing the big rotation with Duncan. Without him, it figures to become more predictable by default.

I suspect he goes Anderson over Marjanovic, though if they get in a big hole early, he could end up going 11 deep.



The Warriors so called "lineup of death" is being over hyped for the simple fact that they don't use it that much. It's their ace in the hole, but it's not nearly the fixture people seem to think it is. They do in fact have two true centers in their rotation. In a playoff series, especially if it's apparent that the Spurs have the upper hand, I'd expect them to lean more on it and other small ball machinations though.

I'm really only interested in a few things, 2 of which we will see & 1 we won't:

1) Danny Green. This is the type of game he should be up for. I'm chalking a lot up to DG getting different looks, but also some bordem perhaps. Anxious to see with Stephs improved game if the DG/Kawhi combo still gives them trouble. Esp since Curry is basically only taking 3 pointers now. Currys last 5 games: 99 FGA with 67 of them coming from 3. Spurs defend the 3 well & that's basically all Curry shoots.

2) Lineup of death & what SA does. Go big & let LMA punish? Wildly experiment & see what works with unconventional lineups?

3) Zach Lowe brought this up & it ties into #2: How much does Tim factor in against the Lineup of Death? We won't see that tonight but an interesting question for sure. Can he stay on the floor? Can the offense work with him?

How they defend Leonard tbh. I imagine Barnes/Iggy and probably some Raymond on him. They've theoretically got some guys to throw at Kawhi that could neutralize him in a playoff series...

I usually watch my computer screen play the game.

I am looking forward to this 'game within a game.' I'm going to pay a lot of attention to the match-ups. I believe Tony will stay on Curry a lot, as EN said I doubt Pop is going to give him practice against Kahwi. I do think we can win this game and should damn well try. I think Diaw and West can be big for us tonight and will be especially interested in how we deal with Draymond Green.
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Who's going to play like a faggot, and who's not?

Another thing I'll be watching is the lack of black people in the lower bowl of the Oracle. Lacob and Co. have really managed to gentrify the games to make sure to keep out all the locals of one of the blackest parts of California, and make it so only the elite of Silicon Valley can afford the games now that the team is good.

Yet, in Spurs games you still see fat mexican people peppered (no pun intended) throughout the first few rows....

Another reason why the Spurs are a classier organization and still the model franchise in sports tbh....

i m here guys.

WE WILL WIN. YOU WILL SEE

I am interested to see how the Spurs handle the early part of the first quarter. As we all know, the Warriors jump on teams early thanks in large part to there very handsy defense igniting transition opportunities.

I would like to see the Spurs keep it simple early and protect the ball. A little less adventurous movement may lead to a few less baskets, but if it can keep the crowd and the Warriors from playing at pace, it's worth it.

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Another thing I'll be watching is the lack of black people in the lower bowl of the Oracle. Lacob and Co. have really managed to gentrify the games to make sure to keep out all the locals of one of the blackest parts of California, and make it so only the elite of Silicon Valley can afford the games now that the team is good.

Yet, in Spurs games you still see fat mexican people peppered (no pun intended) throughout the first few rows....

Another reason why the Spurs are a classier organization and still the model franchise in sports tbh....

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LMA vs Draymond Green. If the Warriors can go small with Green at center and not be punished for it, then they will control the game and series (if the two teams meet).

Also kind of curious to see how Diaw matches up with Green. I expect to see a lineup of Diaw, Leonard, Ginobili, Green, and Parker at some point against the Warriors small ball.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

That is certainly an SAGirl special. It has a lot of good insight in it, and it's long as hell :lol. I wonder what would happen if Kyle started for Duncan. Would it encourage the Warriors to go to micro-ball (Green at C)? If so, I think it's Drive-and-Kick City with a couple of stops to refill on post-ups. If not, then it almost completely eliminates the issues with using Kawhi on Draymond, and the Spurs would still have better rim-protection out there. In the very least, it would be fun to watch.

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No problem. I catch (and retain) many bits of information, and sometimes if something picks my interest, I'll rewatch a sequence. I was curious for example why Pop subbed Diaw out in the Cavs game and I re-watched some minutes from him, noticing some things that let me figure it out. I tend to get off topic a lot bc I have accumulated and retained many bits of information that are sometimes relevant or marginally relevant to a topic. (and here I am going to go off topic with a cliche.. Typical female mind).:lol

I like to read others views too. Very often there are things I missed myself, or just didn't pay attention bc I was looking at a different player when I watched the game.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

I was more interested in seeing the big rotation with Duncan. Without him, it figures to become more predictable by default.

I suspect he goes Anderson over Marjanovic, though if they get in a big hole early, he could end up going 11 deep.



The Warriors so called "lineup of death" is being over hyped for the simple fact that they don't use it that much. It's their ace in the hole, but it's not nearly the fixture people seem to think it is. They do in fact have two true centers in their rotation. In a playoff series, especially if it's apparent that the Spurs have the upper hand, I'd expect them to lean more on it and other small ball machinations though.

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It is less predictable I think. With TD, you know Timmy will play. How long and which matchups is decided in the flow of the game, but if he was healthy he was playing.

Without TD, now you have some flawed guys and some decisions to make. Maybe in the end Pop plays 11 guys. You are right. Personally I want to see Kyle, but I don't think he will play. I think Pop stays very strict with a tight rotation, and we see some Boban with Diaw bc West will likely start, and Diaw will need help with bench rebounding, and rim protection. Manu and Diaw play really well with Boban and Boban is sufficiently impactful to force the other coaches' hand to adapt.

We just give away too much with Diaw/Kyle, Diaw/Butler or even the very unlikely Diaw/Bonner.

If there is foul trouble on any big, that is where I think we see Kyle and that may not happen.

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Originally Posted by MI21

I am interested to see how the Spurs handle the early part of the first quarter. As we all know, the Warriors jump on teams early thanks in large part to there very handsy defense igniting transition opportunities.

I would like to see the Spurs keep it simple early and protect the ball. A little less adventurous movement may lead to a few less baskets, but if it can keep the crowd and the Warriors from playing at pace, it's worth it.

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FAIL

8 turnovers in the first quarter, this shit was predictable as fuck. Lucky to still be in single digit deficit.

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Originally Posted by MI21

FAIL

8 turnovers in the first quarter, this shit was predictable as fuck. Lucky to still be in single digit deficit.

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They'll clean it up. Not being down by 15 is the best part of it.

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Originally Posted by benefactor

They'll clean it up. Not being down by 15 is the best part of it.

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Agreed, but having a simple 3-4 TO quarters make this roughly a tie game, disappointing because if I know that GS, particular Curry and Bogut come out handsy as fuck, you can beat the Spurs know :lol Gotta handle that shit.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Especially with Tim out, I definitely want to see how LMA steps up (or not)... He's had half a season to acclimate, he's done generally a great job, but these are the kind of games where we'll need him. I already know that because Tim isn't going to be next to him, the interior D will suffer a bit, but I want to see an aggressive LMA on offense out there, tbh... West is a rugged, gutsy guy, but obviously limited by his age, I know he'll bring it within his limitations...

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So this was a bust, which was not unexpected. Although I do think the negative can be diminished by having LMA and TD together, where TD can organize the defense better under the basket and LMA can be involved in more than just posting up (hi/lo, etc). But LMA will need to be much, much more aggressive.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Frankly, I already have my mind set that Tony is going to guard Curry most of the game. I don't think Pop is going to give Curry free practice time against Danny/Kawhi in the regular season. Maybe in the 4th quarter, if it's a close game, we'll see Kawhi taking on him.

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This turned out to be largely true, as expected. And as expected Curry largely took advantage. Pop experimented a lot this game, which makes sense: we're the 'newer' team, while GS pounded us with his established lineups and plays.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

And lastly, I wanna see how Pop deals with potential postups on Patty when the bench is out there, and whether Kerr goes to that at all (he might not want to play that card this game).

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This turned out not to be much of an issue, IIRC. Manu took on Livingston, and he didn't really post him up. What was very crappy was the rotations when a warrior would cut to the basket. Lots of tape to watch there.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

It is less predictable I think. With TD, you know Timmy will play. How long and which matchups is decided in the flow of the game, but if he was healthy he was playing.

Without TD, now you have some flawed guys and some decisions to make. Maybe in the end Pop plays 11 guys. You are right. Personally I want to see Kyle, but I don't think he will play. I think Pop stays very strict with a tight rotation, and we see some Boban with Diaw bc West will likely start, and Diaw will need help with bench rebounding, and rim protection. Manu and Diaw play really well with Boban and Boban is sufficiently impactful to force the other coaches' hand to adapt.

We just give away too much with Diaw/Kyle, Diaw/Butler or even the very unlikely Diaw/Bonner.

If there is foul trouble on any big, that is where I think we see Kyle and that may not happen.

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What I was implying was exactly what played out, which was West doubling as the backup center (before garbage time).