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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
-Horford is just a shorter version of LMA & doesn't even feast on mediocre opponents.:lmao
-Teague often gets benched for Schroder so he isn't going to move the needle but would be a better option than Porker/Patty
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
Trade LMA and Kyle (or Ray or Rasual) to Atlanta for Horford (expiring contract) and Teague (2 years on contract). Add draft picks to taste and stir well.
^^^ What Kawhitstorm said. Atlanta has serious, serious problems rebounding and Al Horford + Paul Millsap are the culprit. Teague is getting a ton of flame, a ton from Atlanta fans, lately Schroder is closing out games for ATL because Teague is coasting? not competing? not bringing it? I read an article on SBNation the Atlanta blog, about it, and Teague is really under fire as he's playing as scared as LMA looked against GSW, and a third year young player in Schroder is showing more balls to close out games.
Not a good trade for us.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
^^^ What Kawhitstorm said. Atlanta has serious, serious problems rebounding and Al Horford + Paul Millsap are the culprit. Teague is getting a ton of flame, a ton from Atlanta fans, lately Schroder is closing out games for ATL because Teague is coasting? not competing? not bringing it? I read an article on SBNation the Atlanta blog, about it, and Teague is really under fire as he's playing as scared as LMA looked against GSW, and a third year young player in Schroder is showing more balls to close out games.
Not a good trade for us.
I still like Teague pretty well for his size, plus a change of scenery might revive him. If we could get Schroder instead + another contract for balance, then great. As for Horford/Aldridge - if the that were close to a push then I like it because Horford is on an expiring contract. I do not believe Horford is as soft and lacking in fire as LMA. Our game against Houston will be extremely telling.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
Trade him for Blake Griffin straight up. Right now the Clips might do that deal.
Then start giving all members of the equipment staff Valium to make them more chill.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
Sean Marks is Nets GM :stirpot:..
need to fleece those broke ass niggas in the summer..Thad Young would be my choice..
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
spursistan
Sean Marks is Nets GM :stirpot:..
need to fleece those broke ass niggas in the summer..Thad Young would be my choice..
Agent Sean, initially reluctant to take the job, changed his mind after getting the "plan" from Pop and RC. Best sleeper agent since McHale in Minnesota.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
spursistan
Sean Marks is Nets GM :stirpot:..
need to fleece those broke ass niggas in the summer..Thad Young would be my choice..
Bud paid his dues & PATFO have all the pieces to acquire Thad/Brook: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jmc6sxu
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
This is too late. Trade season is over.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
If Sean trades us Lopez in the off season, it kills two birds with one stone. 1) It replaces a retiring TD, 2) We get someone to replace Manu with the Hispanic community.
But, no, I wouldn't trade LMA for Lopez. After bad games like the Clippers, the LMA haters come out but really he has exceeded expectations in the transition. At least, he's definitely better than Lopez.
But, if we could get him somehow, a frontcourt next year of Kawhi, LMA and Lopez would be pretty nice. That said, I'd still rather have Holford as the TD replacement.
Spurs have good connections to Atlanta, 76ers, and now Nets, all of whom have a big worth getting.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
In a heartbeat, bro :lol ..
Kawhi is going to need a star-caliber sidekick from his age group 1991-1995 in order for us to make the most of his peak time in couple of years....Otherwise, he is Dwayne Wade 2.0 (2007-2010)= won early but wasted his best years for lack of help..
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
spursistan
In a heartbeat, bro :lol ..
Kawhi is going to need a star-caliber sidekick from his age group 1991-1995 in order for us to make the most of his peak time in couple of years....Otherwise, he is Dwayne Wade 2.0 (2007-2010)= won early but wasted his best years for lack of help..
More like Tim b/w '99-'02 b/c the Heat were absolutely trash b/w 2007-10:lol
Sean Marks also recruited LaCarcass along w/ Udoka b/c they played with him in Portland & the Nytes need a young prospect like Kyle who's from nearby Jersey. They can dump Diaw contract b/c it partially guaranteed & take a chance on someone like Whiteside b/c they have nothing to lose.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
More like Tim b/w '99-'02 b/c the Heat were absolutely trash b/w 2007-10:lol
Sean Marks also recruited LaCarcass along w/ Udoka b/c they played with him in Portland & the Nytes need a young prospect like Kyle who's from nearby Jersey. They can dump Diaw contract b/c it partially guaranteed & take a chance on someone like Whiteside b/c they have nothing to lose.
IMHO, this proposal is not any more realistic than the trade of Diaw/Parker/picks for Horford/Teague I proposed on another thread that you found laughable. However, if Sean would go for this deal, then you and I have found one we can agree on. In a Brooklyn minute. :tu
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
IMHO, this proposal is not any more realistic than the trade of Diaw/Parker/picks for Horford/Teague I proposed on another thread that you found laughable. However, if Sean would go for this deal, then you and I have found one we can agree on. In a Brooklyn minute. :tu
Big Dummy, the crux of the Horford/Teague deal is that Pop will NEVER trade any of the Big 3.:wakeup
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Big Dummy, the crux of the Horford/Teague deal is that Pop will NEVER trade any of the Big 3.:wakeup
Not quite as certain as death and taxes - but not far from it. However, I cannot help but hope that Pop will bring in a guard that will provide better defense than Tony and Patty - sooner rather than later. Plus, posters here give Diaw a pass because it is somehow acceptable for him to coast until playoff time. I wish we could have dumped him for a player who doesn't regard coasting until the postseason as his privilege. It is hard to imagine Pop's putting up with that.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
Not quite as certain as death and taxes - but not far from it. However, I cannot help but hope that Pop will bring in a guard that will provide better defense than Tony and Patty - sooner rather than later. Plus, posters here give Diaw a pass because it is somehow acceptable for him to coast until playoff time. I wish we could have dumped him for a player who doesn't regard coasting until the postseason as his privilege. It is hard to imagine Pop's putting up with that.
Like I've been saying, Diaw will get the Malik Rose treatment & get shipped out if he doesn't show up in the postseason especially considering his team friendly contract.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
Not quite as certain as death and taxes - but not far from it. However, I cannot help but hope that Pop will bring in a guard that will provide better defense than Tony and Patty - sooner rather than later. Plus, posters here give Diaw a pass because it is somehow acceptable for him to coast until playoff time. I wish we could have dumped him for a player who doesn't regard coasting until the postseason as his privilege. It is hard to imagine Pop's putting up with that.
Diaw has a tendency to coast so he's hard to gauge... I am careful to proclaim him finished bc the man has looked the part and has had rennaissances... I do think he's too heavy at this point and not in his playoff shape. He's lately getting the ball picked and TO a lot in the post bc he's lost some agility against perimeter players, which he would just dominate b4, as he had a combinations of bulk/heaviness, craftiness and still quickness that was very tough to stop... He's still got his craftiness, but he's now more bulky and less quick.
Manu being out puts an additional burden on him, but he was already coasting b4 the Manu injury. In fact, KA having a few games at the 4, and playing relatively well has covered up Diaw's state of play. Even Rasual has gotten minutes at the 4. I hope for our sakes, Diaw gets on his playoff diet/regimen soon. KA, as much as I like him, is not ready to carry that torch, and Rasual as much as I like him too, is a very, very streaky shooter.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
Diaw has a tendency to coast so he's hard to gauge... I am careful to proclaim him finished bc the man has looked the part and has had rennaissances... I do think he's too heavy at this point and not in his playoff shape. He's lately getting the ball picked and TO a lot in the post bc he's lost some agility against perimeter players, which he would just dominate b4, as he had a combinations of bulk/heaviness, craftiness and still quickness that was very tough to stop... He's still got his craftiness, but he's now more bulky and less quick.
Manu being out puts an additional burden on him, but he was already coasting b4 the Manu injury. In fact, KA having a few games at the 4, and playing relatively well has covered up Diaw's state of play. Even Rasual has gotten minutes at the 4. I hope for our sakes, Diaw gets on his playoff diet/regimen soon. KA, as much as I like him, is not ready to carry that torch, and Rasual as much as I like him too, is a very, very streaky shooter.
I hope so too. Spurs fans put up with Boris because they assume he will start showing up in the POs. If he keeps coasting or is incapable due to lack of discipline in what's probably the last run for Timmy and Manu, that love can turn quickly :lol
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
Super Diaw showing up for 16 games would probably win us 6 before any other bench player. Yes even Ginobili.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Brazil
Brook Lopez ? :lol
Boris 1.0 :lol
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
BillMc
2) We get someone to replace Manu with the Hispanic community...
You crazy with that hispanic crap. The guy doesn't even speak spanish.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
TheDoctor
You crazy with that hispanic crap. The guy doesn't even speak spanish.
Yeah maybe. His dad was Cuban but I think they separated really early in his life.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
SAGirl
Diaw has a tendency to coast so he's hard to gauge... I am careful to proclaim him finished bc the man has looked the part and has had rennaissances... I do think he's too heavy at this point and not in his playoff shape. He's lately getting the ball picked and TO a lot in the post bc he's lost some agility against perimeter players, which he would just dominate b4, as he had a combinations of bulk/heaviness, craftiness and still quickness that was very tough to stop... He's still got his craftiness, but he's now more bulky and less quick.
Manu being out puts an additional burden on him, but he was already coasting b4 the Manu injury. In fact, KA having a few games at the 4, and playing relatively well has covered up Diaw's state of play. Even Rasual has gotten minutes at the 4. I hope for our sakes, Diaw gets on his playoff diet/regimen soon. KA, as much as I like him, is not ready to carry that torch, and Rasual as much as I like him too, is a very, very streaky shooter.
I hope that, as some have suggested, Pop has been saving Rasual. Although the sample size is quite small, I regard his shot as quite reliable. I am not sure why you would think he is streaky - at least so far in the silver and black.
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
Boris 1.0 :lol
More like 0.1 tbh
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Re: Trade LMA for Brook Lopez (throw in Kyle as a bait)
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Originally Posted by
sasaint
I hope that, as some have suggested, Pop has been saving Rasual. Although the sample size is quite small, I regard his shot as quite reliable. I am not sure why you would think he is streaky - at least so far in the silver and black.
He's shooting 30%, just going by his stats... currently at 29% on 3s. Its not very noticeable bc he doesn't play much, but if he was getting Danny's minutes everybody would be on his grill.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...butlera01.html
Small samples may make someone look more than they are in reality. he burned out for the Wizards after the all star break as well and shot about 30% the rest of the season, so its a small sample that can trend up or down depending. I don't consider his 29% shooting from 3 reliable. He's also had some really far off the target shots.
