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Good takes, it's pretty much what I saw and thought about this game. I would like to see the offense ran through Kawhi initially, use him in the same way the Warriors use Curry to get open looks for his teammates. Force the Warriors to adjust and go from there. Also no more small ball lineups, the Spurs have size, they need to use it to their advantage.
If you want to slow the pace against Warriors then post-up plays can help. Obviously, not in every possession but more often than usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightpulp
It's a problem the Spurs don't have a player who excels at drives-penetration-collapsing defenses but it's also an issue Pop playing Parker and Manu like they're still in their prime.
Jonathon is decent enough driving to the hoop, Kawhi isn't a great ball handler but he's improving and getting to the line more...That's why it would be nice to watch in some games the Spurs to try to find other ways with Kawhi-Simms combo.
They won't turn into Westbrook or that kind of elite offensive player but they can provide offense
Well, playoffs are always a different animal, and because the pace naturally slows down due to caution/nerves, etc, so post-play, length, size, etc usually pay dividends.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Maybe we'll grit-and-grind our way out of it. It's a possibility, but a remote one.
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Originally Posted by Nathan89
Pop's rarely called plays this game. It was really odd. We didn't see any Hammer or horns. All I saw was the loop and iso's. Did anyone else notice that?
LMA's postgame is still in Portland, TBH.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
I think Pop was just throwing players out there to see what sticked. Perhaps if Anderson was got to the free throw line deservingly, he might have stayed in longer. Also, Simmons cannot guard Curry. Curry didn't take a tough shot on him. And I am not sure why Green didn't have a look at Curry and also got the pin pulled on him a few times.Quote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
Yeh first off Spurs were playing scared, the turnovers were more often the case of Spurs being indecisive rather than defensive forced...however many of the turnovers or failure on offense were due to home court bias, aggressive defense is easy to play without fear of being called for fouling. Having said that Spurs missed wide open opportunities early and didn't know how to defend GSW until later in the game, so the game snowballed ...
Pop knew the loss was coming and wanted to try some lineups out there but ultimately he still kept some cards out of the playing deck (Boban lineup earlier).
Ultimately I felt Spurs haven't been progressing for a while, since they've been steamrolling opponents, so a blowout loss to wake the team up could actually favor the team greatly...plus there's plenty of material to motivate the team for future games against the Warriors; I felt like not having played them in a while didn't give enough motivation to the Spurs to understand the strength of their opponent.
A blowout win on your court in January is just a sign your opponent wasn't ready. If Spurs haven't figured this out by March and April, we can all sing a different tune.
Simmons or Green will absolutely have to guard Curry because you can't have Leonard burn all his energy in defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbdog
So if Simmons sucked, he absolutely has to get better.
To start how about hold on to the fucking ball. If they just cut out the unforced errors it's a different game. As far as the forced errors give me a fucking break every made warrior basket was and and 1 while we got hacked all night with no whistle.
Now you aee just being ailly and cute. That's probably the biggest flaw many fans and including coaches have. They always fail to understand the impoetance of personel and how exactly tha shoud play out in an offensive scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightpulp
Chinook and you suffer from that problem. You want to play a brand of basketball that relies on inconsistent players to carry you offensively. Motion top requires heavy lifting from Parker and Ginobili.
Why do you think pop commited to post ups? Ths team wanted to emphasise post ups as evident with the Diaw interview. They don't have the talent and personel to play otherwise.
You still to have trouble.umderstanding the massive difference between a spurs set and set made other teams. They are very much different and that has a lot to do with personel and remnants of 2014 Basketball. Kawhi has tons of semi triple situations, the problem is that there is always another player thats ina semi open situation. The truth of the matter of the matter is that hes better of taking the shot himself. Thats on Pop to tell him, hes different and should attack.
Kawhi posting up, specially if they play smaller is enough to defend the tranisition. Kawhi can always cover his man going back. The rest relies on Green who is essentially the best transition defender in the league and sadly Parker.
I think most people understood that no matter the outcome of last nights game, the Spurs and Warriors would stull be the two best teams in the league in the morning. Part of this loss is due to the terrible competition the Spurs have faced. They just weren't ready in any shape or form for the Warriors.
Let's be honest here. The Warriors are amazing and a historic team. If it were not for them the Spurs would be that team. They are just that damn good and its going to take a lot for anyone to beat them in a series. They may lose 1 game all playoffs. The Spurs will need to be very strategic in their approach. Can they beat them? Sure. Will it happen? Maybe? If it does not, oh well, we got best by history. Go put 100$ on GSW to win it all and 50$ on SA cause no one is beating them.
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Originally Posted by phxspurfan
Tim Duncan has mastered the in-between game in the lane, where the big man has to cover both the ballhandler and the roll man for a time. Duncan is 39 years old, and the fact that ESPN’s Real Plus-Minus ranks him as the best defensive player this season (+6.6 points saved per 100 possessions) is ludicrous. NBA players typically decline quickly after the age of 32.
Curry absolutely breaks everything this type of defense is built to do. You can’t drop to the foul line against Curry, because if you do, he’ll hit the three-pointer off the dribble at a rate that will kill you.
To have a chance against the Warriors, Spurs players need to play up to their potential. Im not talking about matchup problems, like Parker and Mills had, Im talking about underachievers like DG and LMA. Cant have people who used to be good, not be good anymore. They need to do what they were brought here for so the big three can put us over the top not struggle to catch up.
I kind of envisioned this where the big three are still the only ones that we believe in. That wont cut it.
Admins, I've been banned for over a year from making threads. Please forgive, this is absurd and ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by testies
I'll see what I can do
Yes, which is why I can't help but have the seed of the thought that Pop intended to throw this game regardless of how we played.Quote:
Originally Posted by tbdog
I don't know about that. Assuming Leonard is the best choice to put on Curry, sacrificing his offense for slowing down Curry is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceperez