Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadline?

I don't think it will happen, but i would not be shocked anymore if it did especially with Tim knee becoming a factor...Mills is probably the most vulnerable.. i think the Spurs will look for a defensive PG in the market..

I would be really shocked if Green or Boris are traded..

I'd be fairly surprised if Patty is traded, but not shocked (I don't remember his contract details, though)

Normally i would . But if the front office feels like Duncan might not come back i could see them maybe shopping a couple players around.

This is a shitty thread tbh.

The problem is not the players we have. It's this stagnant ass offense. I can't stand the pace or the lack of urgency.

WE need a rim protector and better guards. We could make do with what we have in guards if more time is opened up for Simms/Anderson. If Tim comes back you ride this group into the sunset. There is beauty in the journey and guys want to win but also while keeping their team together. If this team underachieves there could be trades in the summer and the retirement for Timmy/Manu. I think they retire anyways, which makes this particular season one you don't want to ruin in terms of chemistry.

Diaw/Mills are a big part of the bench with Manu. I can't see them traded and Manu remaining upbeat about this season.

Green would be the most vulnerable.

No.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I would be really shocked if Green or Boris are traded..

I'd be fairly surprised if Patty is traded, but not shocked (I don't remember his contract details, though)

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Patty has one year remaining while Diaw's contract is only partially guaranteed with his final year being completely unguaranteed. If anything Pop rolls w/ the crew & ships out Diaw in the summer if he wets the bed during the postseason.:lol

We probably should have kept Shitter instead of Green, tbh

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Diaw/Mills are a big part of the bench with Manu. I can't see them traded and Manu remaining upbeat about this season.

Green would be the most vulnerable.

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It's too late in the season to trade a starter like Danny & bring in a new piece w/ LMA/West/Simmons still working out the kinks. George Hill is the only realistic trade option for Danny but even then it's not the same system as 2011 even though he's familiar w/ the Big 3 & Pop.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

We probably should have kept Shitter instead of Green, tbh

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How many game has Shitter missed this season?:lol

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

It's too late in the season to trade a starter like Danny & bring in a new piece w/ LMA/West/Simmons still working out the kinks. George Hill is the only realistic trade option for Danny but even then it's not the same system as 2011 even though he's familiar w/ the Big 3 & Pop.

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How about for Richard Jefferson and Iman Shumpert?

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

How many game has Shitter missed this season?:lol

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I don't know, all I know is he's been buried deep on the bench on that W's team, Millsap and Horford are pretty good and it seems to be more DNP-CD's for Shitter than injuries.

Danny Green is the expendable piece with the emergence of Jonathon Simmons...

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Originally Posted by Spurs_619

Normally i would . But if the front office feels like Duncan might not come back i could see them maybe shopping a couple players around.

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Timmy has a sore knee after the Laker game. He wasn't limping. Wasn't hobbling. Didn't go down. We are not winning a title in January, so they rest him. Second seed is ours to lose and we are not catching Warriors unless Curry goes down. So don't fret over that. Also on topic, Green has proven to be more than useful and we all bedazzled on why this slump has gone on for that much. Also Simmons is not ready for starting minutes.

The team defiantly needs a big point guard. Perhaps target someone like CJ Watson.

Not shocked, but I think it's unlikely.

I don't see it, but green blows. He and Mills are both worse for the team than Simmons. Trade both or at least green

RC should definitely be doing his due diligence on Mills tbh. He's been trash all year, and this is probably as high as his value will ever be again. It's pretty easy to see that when he isn't on fire, he's essentially a short Gary Neal on the floor. I suspect this is why they're experimenting with Simmons defending PGs.

This type of thread has its genesis spawned by a bad game.

Why not after a crushing success?

It is possible to ascertain improvements after wins, not just losses.

Timmy under the basket barking directions on D and not going into panic mode is the prescription imO. We will finish this season with this crew mostly intact barring injuries. The idea is to be at your best during the playoffs. We will finish with the crew we have.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

WE need a rim protector and better guards. We could make do with what we have in guards if more time is opened up for Simms/Anderson. If Tim comes back you ride this group into the sunset. There is beauty in the journey and guys want to win but also while keeping their team together. If this team underachieves there could be trades in the summer and the retirement for Timmy/Manu. I think they retire anyways, which makes this particular season one you don't want to ruin in terms of chemistry.

Diaw/Mills are a big part of the bench with Manu. I can't see them traded and Manu remaining upbeat about this season.

Green would be the most vulnerable.

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I agree, we have those guards in Simmons and Anderson, but we may need another bigger and quicker guard (maybe Orlando Johnson).

Spurs gutted the end of bench where we don't have an additional young and long build to protect the paint. Aldridge, West and Diaw are not tall and quick enough. Boban is not quick enough. Spurs need some other guy pronto!!!

Spurs need to dump McCallum. I've said it all season, Spurs don't need an additional 6'0" player! Mills and Parker are liabilities enough.

Spurs got major problems protecting the paint. They got beat up by Cavs.

Spurs never do this shit. So what's the point? they won't mess up continuity and chemistry mid season after a few blowout games. I wish they would get another three point specialist, like Troy Daniels. A rim protector would be great but that's not happening.

Trade Green, Anderson and picks for Rudy Gay

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Originally Posted by G-Dawgg

Danny Green is the expendable piece with the emergence of Jonathon Simmons...

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Haven't watched much of Simmons but i have noticed he can get to the rim and finish. I have concerns about his shooting. Green and Mills are the only true sharpshooters on the Spurs. I'd much rather keep Green and hope he breaks out post allstar break nad the playoffs.

i'd be interested to see if Pop trys to shake things up and moved in Simmons or Anderson to the starting lineup and go with a Mills-Manu-Green-Diaw-West bench group.

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Originally Posted by cd021

i'd be interested to see if Pop trys to shake things up and moved in Simmons or Anderson to the starting lineup and go with a Mills-Manu-Green-Diaw-West bench group.

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Anderson needs to get some minutes at the 4 to develop. He wasn't worse on love than Lamarcus. Love got him a couple of times, but he also got Love a few times. Had a steal on him and forced tough shots other times. He's slim, but he's better closing out shooters and making rotations than our other big s and he plays like a guard. I don't know what ppl saw, but he drove and drew fouls on guards (kyrie) or posted him up. That is just craftiness. It shows a guy that has been used to gaming the ball against guards and smaller guys. We saw glimpses of what he can be. A guy crafty enough to know how to attack different players. Once he drove by LeBron who gambled fir a steal and set up Boban to get fouled. All if that without a screen.

Simmons git to the rim finishing with either hand. He was much better than Manu. I believe Manu will bounce back but the other guys still need playing time. It's possible they are still developing and getting better.

I wouldn't trade anyone unless Timmy is not back. His injury has not been season ending, but we will not get anywhere without a rim protecting big. Boban is still a project in that regard.

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Originally Posted by cd021

i'd be interested to see if Pop trys to shake things up and moved in Simmons or Anderson to the starting lineup and go with a Mills-Manu-Green-Diaw-West bench group.

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Simmons should start but Parker should also be benched, which will never happen. :bang

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Originally Posted by cd021

Haven't watched much of Simmons but i have noticed he can get to the rim and finish. I have concerns about his shooting. Green and Mills are the only true sharpshooters on the Spurs. I'd much rather keep Green and hope he breaks out post allstar break nad the playoffs.

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I agree that Green's shooting is extremely valuable to the Spurs. However, my concern is that right now he isn't shooting like he should be and he isn't contributing all that much in general. In my opinion, Simmons has many more skills than Danny Green does and can help in many more ways other than shooting the long ball.. I believe Simmons is good enough to start and could contribute at least what Danny Green is contributing as a starter at the moment. That's why I believe Danny Green has become expendable at this point. Now if Green can regain his form and can start hitting his 3's consistently again, then that is a different story. But it just seems that he's lost all confidence and to bring him all the way back to old form may take alot of coddling which is unfair to the developement of Jonathon Simmons who is proving that he can play. Simmons is quicker and more athletic than Green. He plays good defense he is good at attacking the rim, offensively he can finish at the rim, above the rim or absorb contact and draw fouls. He is also a good ball handler and can make plays for other players. These are all things Green cannot do. However although he can hit them, Simmons' 3 point range isn't very tested, and the 3 ball is a weapon that our team is extremely lacking right now. Maybe Danny Green can still fix his season, maybe Jonathon Simmons takes more and more of his playing time.. Who knows.... It'll be interesting to see what happens I guess... -if there is to be a trade candidate at all, my money would be on Danny Green. He's being paid a lot of money when Simmons could be doing the same job for a tiny fraction of the price.

Best scenario is for the spurs to lose all games before break. No one would want green w/ his contract and his current play. Diaw only fits w/ less than 5 teams.

Parker not getting benched. Green not losing starting job to a rookie. Green and Diaw aren't going any where. With the salary cap to keeping going up, Green salary will be way underpaid in a couple of years. At that time, his value will be peaked and we can get something back for him that is worth the money. Ray Mc is NOT 6' tall guard, he is 6'3. He is a 2nd year player and is doing a great job learning the system. Even then he is still the #3 PG. Given the year needed to learn the system, he will be fine next year. Simmons and Anderson are 2 solid players. Both have a lot to learn but are getting there. Mills is the only asset available for trade. He has some value but to who?? Only Pop knows what move if any is going to be made. Boban is a year away.

BTW Next time "Slo-mo" is on the court, watch him run. He is deceivingly quick on those long legs. And his shooting is coming around.

Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Budkin

Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.

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I agree

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Originally Posted by Budkin

Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.

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However, there is prior evidence that trading mid-season isn't such a bad idea. Evidence: Trade for Jackson mid-season.

Spurs Guide to the Trade Deadline


HANG UP IF THEY ASK ABOUT …
Starters and rotational players
Teams have such respect for San Antonio that there is an unwritten rule when engaging with the Spurs to not to waste their time by talking about their key players.
There should be no movement among the Spurs' starters or rotation players.


WORTH TAKING THE CALL
Kyle Anderson and Jonathon Simmons
The undrafted Simmons has been a revelation, and Anderson has upside. Considering the Spurs’ ability to develop players, San Antonio would probably think long and hard about parting with either player if a team calls.


2016 first-round pick
San Antonio has proven its ability to find hidden gems in past drafts and have former picks Nikola Milutinov and Livio Jean-Charles stashed overseas, so this pick has value to San Antonio, but if the right deal comes along ...
The problem is the discrepancy in salary on the Spurs’ roster will make it difficult to move a pick for an established player.


NO-TRADE CLAUSE OR WITH A RESTRICTION
Tim Duncan
Duncan is one of six players in the NBA with a no-trade clause, meaning he has the power to veto any deal.

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http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/qkU...-505348090.jpgManu Ginobili has an interesting contract situation. (Getty Images)

Manu Ginobili and Matt Bonner
Matt Bonner, who signed a one-year contract this summer, must consent to any trade San Antonio wishes to make. Although Manu Ginobili signed a two-year contract this past summer, the second year has a player option, so Ginobili is deemed to have an early Bird restriction.Both players must approve of any trade and early Bird rights would not carry over to their new teams.


Ray McCallum
McCallum, who was acquired from Sacramento, cannot be traded back to the Kings this season.


MOVE THAT PUSHES THE NEEDLE
Utilizing cap space this past summer enabled the Spurs to be positioned for a long run this spring.
San Antonio should keep an eye on the March 1 waiver wire, especially if buyout talks pick up with Brooklyn’s Joe Johnson.


TREASURE CHEST OF PICKS
Full, with reinforcements in Europe
San Antonio has its own first-round pick, projected to be No. 29 overall.
The Spurs also own their future first-round picks
San Antonio has a plethora of draft picks stashed overseas. First-round pick Nikola Milutinov (2015), first-round pick Livio Jean-Charles (2013), second-round pick Nemanja Dangubic (2014) and 2011 second-round picks Davis Bertans and Adam Hanga comprise a strong core of future assets.


AVAILABLE TRADE EXCEPTIONS
None


POST-TRADE DEADLINE ROSTER MOVEMENT
Even with 15 guaranteed contracts, San Antonio will pay attention to the March 1 buyout date. Adding a veteran for the stretch could prove more beneficial than a February 18 trade.


SNEAK PEEK TOWARD JULY
The Spurs will be right at the projected $89 million salary cap in July.
The big priority will be to lock up restricted free agent Boban Marjanovic. Because of his non-Bird rights, the Spurs will almost surely be forced to dip into part of their $5.6 million mid-level exception.


INSIDER INFO
Although not on the roster, the cap holds for previous first-round picks Nikola Milutinov and Livio Jean-Charles will hit the Spurs salary cap in July.
San Antonio can release the holds by notifying the NBA of its desire not to sign them, but doing so would make either player ineligible to sign in 2016-17. Both players’ cap holds were released last July when San Antonio needed cap space to sign LaMarcus Aldridge.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/guide-t...001850350.html

Simmons, Anderson and Butler need more minutes. That is all.

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Manu Ginobili and Matt Bonner
Matt Bonner, who signed a one-year contract this summer, must consent to any trade San Antonio wishes to make. Although Manu Ginobili signed a two-year contract this past summer, the second year has a player option, so Ginobili is deemed to have an early Bird restriction.Both players must approve of any trade and early Bird rights would not carry over to their new teams.

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This is incorrect. Both Manu and Matt will be eligible for full Bird rights if they stay with Spurs through the end of the season. I have no idea what Yahoo is doing here.

I wouldn't be shocked to see Green or Mills traded. However, it would be highly unlikely. I don't see some trade happening as a knee jerk to the last couple games, but instead to tighten up the rotation heading into the playoffs. I feel any "problem" with the Spurs right now is they have too much depth. Too many cooks in the kitchen if you will; from game to game we never know who is going to step up and there is no accountability.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Boban traded. From what I understand he's on a 1 year deal and the Spurs don't have Bird rights for him. With the kind of attention he's garnered I could see some team offering him an offseason contract the Spurs just can't compete with. On his own he won't get much in a trade but added to Danny or Mills the Spurs could pull something nice back in return.

I liked the idea earlier in the thread about a trade centered around Danny and pieces for Rudy Gay mostly because it will move Kawhi to the 2 guard which is where he needs to be to really take the next step. I've wanted him at the 2 for a long time because physically there isn't one other 2 guard in the league who can keep him out of the post.

Also I read this trade idea couple days ago. Has about a 0.1% chance of happening but it was an interesting thought http://hoopshabit.com/2016/01/30/nba...ake-griffin/4/ . Griffin and Kawhi going forward would be a lot more enticing than Aldridge.