Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
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cd021
i'd be interested to see if Pop trys to shake things up and moved in Simmons or Anderson to the starting lineup and go with a Mills-Manu-Green-Diaw-West bench group.
Simmons should start but Parker should also be benched, which will never happen. :bang
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
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cd021
Haven't watched much of Simmons but i have noticed he can get to the rim and finish. I have concerns about his shooting. Green and Mills are the only true sharpshooters on the Spurs. I'd much rather keep Green and hope he breaks out post allstar break nad the playoffs.
I agree that Green's shooting is extremely valuable to the Spurs. However, my concern is that right now he isn't shooting like he should be and he isn't contributing all that much in general. In my opinion, Simmons has many more skills than Danny Green does and can help in many more ways other than shooting the long ball.. I believe Simmons is good enough to start and could contribute at least what Danny Green is contributing as a starter at the moment. That's why I believe Danny Green has become expendable at this point. Now if Green can regain his form and can start hitting his 3's consistently again, then that is a different story. But it just seems that he's lost all confidence and to bring him all the way back to old form may take alot of coddling which is unfair to the developement of Jonathon Simmons who is proving that he can play. Simmons is quicker and more athletic than Green. He plays good defense he is good at attacking the rim, offensively he can finish at the rim, above the rim or absorb contact and draw fouls. He is also a good ball handler and can make plays for other players. These are all things Green cannot do. However although he can hit them, Simmons' 3 point range isn't very tested, and the 3 ball is a weapon that our team is extremely lacking right now. Maybe Danny Green can still fix his season, maybe Jonathon Simmons takes more and more of his playing time.. Who knows.... It'll be interesting to see what happens I guess... -if there is to be a trade candidate at all, my money would be on Danny Green. He's being paid a lot of money when Simmons could be doing the same job for a tiny fraction of the price.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
Best scenario is for the spurs to lose all games before break. No one would want green w/ his contract and his current play. Diaw only fits w/ less than 5 teams.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
Parker not getting benched. Green not losing starting job to a rookie. Green and Diaw aren't going any where. With the salary cap to keeping going up, Green salary will be way underpaid in a couple of years. At that time, his value will be peaked and we can get something back for him that is worth the money. Ray Mc is NOT 6' tall guard, he is 6'3. He is a 2nd year player and is doing a great job learning the system. Even then he is still the #3 PG. Given the year needed to learn the system, he will be fine next year. Simmons and Anderson are 2 solid players. Both have a lot to learn but are getting there. Mills is the only asset available for trade. He has some value but to who?? Only Pop knows what move if any is going to be made. Boban is a year away.
BTW Next time "Slo-mo" is on the court, watch him run. He is deceivingly quick on those long legs. And his shooting is coming around.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
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Budkin
Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.
I agree
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
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Budkin
Pop doesn't make trades in seasons we actually need to. With this record no one is going anywhere.
However, there is prior evidence that trading mid-season isn't such a bad idea. Evidence: Trade for Jackson mid-season.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
Spurs Guide to the Trade Deadline
HANG UP IF THEY ASK ABOUT …
Starters and rotational players
Teams have such respect for San Antonio that there is an unwritten rule when engaging with the Spurs to not to waste their time by talking about their key players.
There should be no movement among the Spurs' starters or rotation players.
WORTH TAKING THE CALL
Kyle Anderson and Jonathon Simmons
The undrafted Simmons has been a revelation, and Anderson has upside. Considering the Spurs’ ability to develop players, San Antonio would probably think long and hard about parting with either player if a team calls.
2016 first-round pick
San Antonio has proven its ability to find hidden gems in past drafts and have former picks Nikola Milutinov and Livio Jean-Charles stashed overseas, so this pick has value to San Antonio, but if the right deal comes along ...
The problem is the discrepancy in salary on the Spurs’ roster will make it difficult to move a pick for an established player.
NO-TRADE CLAUSE OR WITH A RESTRICTION
Tim Duncan
Duncan is one of six players in the NBA with a no-trade clause, meaning he has the power to veto any deal.
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http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/qkU...-505348090.jpgManu Ginobili has an interesting contract situation. (Getty Images)
Manu Ginobili and Matt Bonner
Matt Bonner, who signed a one-year contract this summer, must consent to any trade San Antonio wishes to make. Although Manu Ginobili signed a two-year contract this past summer, the second year has a player option, so Ginobili is deemed to have an early Bird restriction.Both players must approve of any trade and early Bird rights would not carry over to their new teams.
Ray McCallum
McCallum, who was acquired from Sacramento, cannot be traded back to the Kings this season.
MOVE THAT PUSHES THE NEEDLE
Utilizing cap space this past summer enabled the Spurs to be positioned for a long run this spring.
San Antonio should keep an eye on the March 1 waiver wire, especially if buyout talks pick up with Brooklyn’s Joe Johnson.
TREASURE CHEST OF PICKS
Full, with reinforcements in Europe
San Antonio has its own first-round pick, projected to be No. 29 overall.
The Spurs also own their future first-round picks
San Antonio has a plethora of draft picks stashed overseas. First-round pick Nikola Milutinov (2015), first-round pick Livio Jean-Charles (2013), second-round pick Nemanja Dangubic (2014) and 2011 second-round picks Davis Bertans and Adam Hanga comprise a strong core of future assets.
AVAILABLE TRADE EXCEPTIONS
None
POST-TRADE DEADLINE ROSTER MOVEMENT
Even with 15 guaranteed contracts, San Antonio will pay attention to the March 1 buyout date. Adding a veteran for the stretch could prove more beneficial than a February 18 trade.
SNEAK PEEK TOWARD JULY
The Spurs will be right at the projected $89 million salary cap in July.
The big priority will be to lock up restricted free agent Boban Marjanovic. Because of his non-Bird rights, the Spurs will almost surely be forced to dip into part of their $5.6 million mid-level exception.
INSIDER INFO
Although not on the roster, the cap holds for previous first-round picks Nikola Milutinov and Livio Jean-Charles will hit the Spurs salary cap in July.
San Antonio can release the holds by notifying the NBA of its desire not to sign them, but doing so would make either player ineligible to sign in 2016-17. Both players’ cap holds were released last July when San Antonio needed cap space to sign LaMarcus Aldridge.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/guide-t...001850350.html
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
Simmons, Anderson and Butler need more minutes. That is all.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
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Manu Ginobili and Matt Bonner
Matt Bonner, who signed a one-year contract this summer, must consent to any trade San Antonio wishes to make. Although Manu Ginobili signed a two-year contract this past summer, the second year has a player option, so Ginobili is deemed to have an early Bird restriction.Both players must approve of any trade and early Bird rights would not carry over to their new teams.
This is incorrect. Both Manu and Matt will be eligible for full Bird rights if they stay with Spurs through the end of the season. I have no idea what Yahoo is doing here.
Re: Diaw/Mills/Green: would you be shocked if one of them is traded before the deadli
I wouldn't be shocked to see Green or Mills traded. However, it would be highly unlikely. I don't see some trade happening as a knee jerk to the last couple games, but instead to tighten up the rotation heading into the playoffs. I feel any "problem" with the Spurs right now is they have too much depth. Too many cooks in the kitchen if you will; from game to game we never know who is going to step up and there is no accountability.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Boban traded. From what I understand he's on a 1 year deal and the Spurs don't have Bird rights for him. With the kind of attention he's garnered I could see some team offering him an offseason contract the Spurs just can't compete with. On his own he won't get much in a trade but added to Danny or Mills the Spurs could pull something nice back in return.
I liked the idea earlier in the thread about a trade centered around Danny and pieces for Rudy Gay mostly because it will move Kawhi to the 2 guard which is where he needs to be to really take the next step. I've wanted him at the 2 for a long time because physically there isn't one other 2 guard in the league who can keep him out of the post.
Also I read this trade idea couple days ago. Has about a 0.1% chance of happening but it was an interesting thought http://hoopshabit.com/2016/01/30/nba...ake-griffin/4/ . Griffin and Kawhi going forward would be a lot more enticing than Aldridge.
