Spurs are ranked 26th in 3-point attempts

God people are fucking retarded. Kawhi not playing with the starters cause that's fucking rape. You have to even teams up. It's training camp for fucks sake. No need to get all fucking retarded about it. :lmao

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Obviously haven't followed the team as long, but I think he finds whatever works the best for his particular team and once he believes he found the best version of the team, he does stick rigidly to what works. He's had Manu and Diaw who he can move to start if he feels he needs them, but they were established commodities and those are no longer options (Diaw gone, Manu on minutes restrictions is now truly realistically a strict bench player). Beyond that others can school me, I haven't known the Spurs long, and I think it's an interesting subject.

All of these are more observations from my part at any rate, nothing I am arguing, or debating or making a contested hot take about.

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:lol You can dispense with the disclaimers with me. I won't call you out for expressing an opinion without advertising it as such. :lol

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Originally Posted by sasaint

:lol You can dispense with the disclaimers with me. I won't call you out for expressing an opinion without advertising it as such. :lol

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ok ya that one was funny and it went on for quite a long back and forth here too. Lol

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Originally Posted by dabom

God people are fucking retarded. Kawhi not playing with the starters cause that's fucking rape. You have to even teams up. It's training camp for fucks sake. No need to get all fucking retarded about it. :lmao

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Kawhi isn't going to be running 1-5 PnRs since Pau is going to be the defacto PnR partner for Porker & Kawhi/LMA are ISO players so it isn't imperative that they practice w/ the starters.

The bench on the other hand is going to be the priority during camp & they will most likely get a run during pre-season. As far as defense, Pop is going to recycle the same ole' sag on PnRs & have Danny/Kawhi do the grunt work while Porker waves in traffic.

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Originally Posted by dabom

God people are fucking retarded. Kawhi not playing with the starters cause that's fucking rape. You have to even teams up. It's training camp for fucks sake. No need to get all fucking retarded about it. :lmao

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Back in the day, installing a new play package was kind of interesting. Coach started instruction with the first team playing against the second unit. After a few demo walk-throughs the pace picked up to game speed. Once the first unit was moving through the new system well, coach would stop play and switch out the sixth man with his counterpart on the first unit, and the team would work back up to speed with the four starters and the sixth man. Then the seventh man would switch teams and work up to speed... then the eighth, until finally coach had reassembled the second team to run the new play and the first unit on the defensive. Obviously, the most "mixed" the units got was when the 7th and 8th men were switched. Scrimmage was a little different. The units were usually divided in a way that would be pretty competitive. In both types of workouts, units were fairly mixed for reasonable lengths of time.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Back in the day, installing a new play package was kind of interesting. Coach started instruction with the first team playing against the second unit. After a few demo walk-throughs the pace picked up to game speed. Once the first unit was moving through the new system well, coach would stop play and switch out the sixth man with his counterpart on the first unit, and the team would work back up to speed with the four starters and the sixth man. Then the seventh man would switch teams and work up to speed... then the eighth, until finally coach had reassembled the second team to run the new play and the first unit on the defensive. Obviously, the most "mixed" the units got was when the 7th and 8th men were switched. Scrimmage was a little different. The units were usually divided in a way that would be pretty competitive. In both types of workouts, units were fairly mixed for reasonable lengths of time.

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Thanks. This helps understand the pictures better. :tu Pop probably still does things this way to this day. He made all those jokes with Tim running through the same dumb drills. What you state sounds like something Pop would still do.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Kawhi isn't going to be running 1-5 PnRs since Pau is going to be the defacto PnR partner for Porker & Kawhi/LMA are ISO players so it isn't imperative that they practice w/ the starters.

The bench on the other hand is going to be the priority during camp & they will most likely get a run during pre-season. As far as defense, Pop is going to recycle the same ole' sag on PnRs & have Danny/Kawhi do the grunt work while Porker waves in traffic.

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Good points.

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Originally Posted by tonight...you

I don't like his form, nor his movement.

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I was looking at his form too. Almost Kevin Martin like with how low he has it, though not as slow of course. I looked at other videos of him shooting, and his release point is usually higher than that.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2eftagm.png


http://i63.tinypic.com/14xldh1.png

I wouldn't look too much into where Kawhi is playing in this scrimmage. He played with the 2nd unit a few years ago too

This is from 2013, and other years he was on the other side.

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/24/15/14.../1024x1024.jpg


It may be Pop wanting him to practice carrying the load more, or maybe just completely randomized lol who knows. But I honestly don't see Pop pulling him out early. There are too many elite wings in the game where he is needed to play a good amount of minutes against the opposing starters in the league

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

I wouldn't look too much into where Kawhi is playing in this scrimmage. He played with the 2nd unit a few years ago too

This is from 2013, and other years he was on the other side.

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/24/15/14.../1024x1024.jpg


It may be Pop wanting him to practice carrying the load more, or maybe just completely randomized lol who knows. But I honestly don't see Pop pulling him out early. There are too many elite wings in the game where he is needed to play a good amount of minutes against the opposing starters in the league

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Thanks for sharing this. I didn't see that scrimmage. The thought popped into my head while looking at the pictures in the context of how poor the bench was in that OKC series and the question marks they have this season, but it was a random thing. I am glad to see the light lol.

In that case, we better do hope Kyle pulls through (and J.Simms and Lee). I am going back to Pop stubbornly sticking with his bench.

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I am increasingly thinking it would be wisest to start reviving the Bad Boys when it comes to them. Go Michael Jordan Rules. Get in their heads, even when you play straight. With Pops' heavy rotation habits in the RS- I would think about employing a more heavy handed defense, so to speak and getting the refs used to what the team just... does.

I don't know... just a thought.

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How about this thought right here?
I am bumping you tonight...you bc I deviated from your question with my random musings lol

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Thanks for sharing this. I didn't see that scrimmage. The thought popped into my head while looking at the pictures in the context of how poor the bench was in that OKC series and the question marks they have this season, but it was a random thing. I am glad to see the light lol.

In that case, we better do hope Kyle pulls through (and J.Simms and Lee). I am going back to Pop stubbornly sticking with his bench.

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Maybe Pau will end up being the guy who plays with the 2nd unit more, who knows. They definitely will need to be better. it'll be a while before we get a true sense of the rotation. This is a lot of new pieces for Pop to try and implement in a small amount of time

Ideally Tony would shoot a bit more 3s per game even if efficiency suffers a bit... I'd rather have him with 2 attempts per game at +0.30 than 1 at +0.40. If plan is to have him for 2 more years with the starting unit, he needs to shoot those to open up plays, he cannot rely on being faster than opponent anymore to create separation.

Ideally Green gets his shooting back.

Ideally Anderson shoots better from 3s and make it a reliable weapon. If he wants minutes he has to shoot those

LMA practiced also his 3 pts shooting last year but he did not use it at all... I still don't know why tbh... so yeah I would not look too much into him shooting 3s in practice.

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

Maybe Pau will end up being the guy who plays with the 2nd unit more, who knows. They definitely will need to be better. it'll be a while before we get a true sense of the rotation. This is a lot of new pieces for Pop to try and implement in a small amount of time

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I actually now tend to think Pop will stick with Pau and LMA. Pop clearing up the air that Pau is starting, dispelled any doubts about it (though I always thought he was starting anyways, I did see the benefit of him helping out the bench). But it's clear Pop is going to stick with the twin towers.

Playoffs are definitely a different ballgame of course. Anyways, it was a random musing and too early in the season for it.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I actually now tend to think Pop will stick with Pau and LMA. Pop clearing up the air that Pau is starting, dispelled any doubts about it (though I always thought he was starting anyways, I did see the benefit of him helping out the bench). But it's clear Pop is going to stick with the twin towers.

Playoffs are definitely a different ballgame of course. Anyways, it was a random musing and too early in the season for it.

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I hope they do, and I'm sure it'll fluctuate based on the opponent. But I hope he does stay big. OKC had success against the Warriors with it, but they also had the ability to go small. I just want us to be able to match any style thrown at us

None of this matters if you cant hit the 3. Its not going away. Bad boys thwart lane attacks, you cant do that just beyond the half court.

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

I hope they do, and I'm sure it'll fluctuate based on the opponent. But I hope he does stay big. OKC had success against the Warriors with it, but they also had the ability to go small. I just want us to be able to match any style thrown at us

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The Thunder were unique, in that even when they went small, they were still big because of the height and length of Ibaka (6'10'' and 7'3'') and Durant (6'11'' and 7'4.75''), who both possess rare mobility and lateral quickness for their respective size.

The Spurs aren't constructed in such a way (their 2nd and 3rd best players are bigs, their 2nd best player is also their only big who's both mobile and good enough to play significant minutes and they lack wing depth) to play small ball for long stretches and if they even attempt to do so against the Warriors, they deserve to be blown out.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

The Thunder were unique, in that even when they went small, they were still big because of the height and length of Ibaka (6'10'' and 7'3'') and Durant (6'11'' and 7'4.75''), who both possess rare mobility and lateral quickness for their respective size.

The Spurs aren't constructed in such a way (their 2nd and 3rd best players are bigs, their 2nd best player is also their only big who's both mobile and good enough to play significant minutes and they lack wing depth) to play small ball for long stretches and if they even attempt to do so against the Warriors, they deserve to be blown out.

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The Spurs best chance is to go straight bully-ball on 'em like the 2015 Grizz.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

The Spurs best chance is to go straight bully-ball on 'em like the 2015 Grizz.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

The Spurs best chance is to go straight bully-ball on 'em like the 2015 Grizz.

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Pretty much what I was saying earlier... Agreed.

As for the 3 pt shot attempts overall I think they will shoot more bc maybe the the PnP midrange will change to a 3.
The evidence is Aldridge practicing the shot, him stating that Pop told him to work on it. Pau shooting some 3s last season, Bertans a strict specialist and Kyle was shooting the 3 in SL to the tune of close to 4 per game at 42%. All these are "bigs" in that system, so basically the bigs will shoot the 3, last season they didn't really. LMA didn't, Kyle didn't enough, Diaw didn't enough either, and Dwest didn't. So overall I expect more attempts and better results (add in Bertans on occasion too).

Other than that, they need Danny to bounce back for real.

Well nobody said it but they launched 25 3s in the preseason opener

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Originally Posted by TD 21

The Thunder were unique, in that even when they went small, they were still big because of the height and length of Ibaka (6'10'' and 7'3'') and Durant (6'11'' and 7'4.75''), who both possess rare mobility and lateral quickness for their respective size.

The Spurs aren't constructed in such a way (their 2nd and 3rd best players are bigs, their 2nd best player is also their only big who's both mobile and good enough to play significant minutes and they lack wing depth) to play small ball for long stretches and if they even attempt to do so against the Warriors, they deserve to be blown out.

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Fair enough.. I think they should be able to go small though. It might not be something they do often, but I think them having the capability will be good.

Even if it's a LMA/Kawhi/Anderson(?)/Green/Manu/Mills

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

Fair enough.. I think they should be able to go small though. It might not be something they do often, but I think them having the capability will be good.

Even if it's a LMA/Kawhi/Anderson(?)/Green/Manu/Mills

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In a general sense, of course they should and will be able to go small for stretches, but I meant specifically regarding the Warriors; it can't be a staple against them.