Bonner Injury Thread

What happened? Did he fall off the toilet?

Yeah, I'm actually a huge supporter of Bonner's legacy. I'm not confused into believing that he's still a good player, but I haven't been trying to get him off the team. Hell, I haven't been trying to get anyone off the team. I only propose trades to get what I think is a need for the Spurs. If there's anyone on the team that I kinda want PATFO to move, it's Boban, since his value is dropping a lot, and I don't see him as a long-term piece.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Where did this reputation come from?

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At least once a year, you come up with a trade scenario that includes trading Bonner and of course, all of these trades heavily favor the Spurs no doubt. Who could forget the infamous Bonner for Ariza trade proposal 5 years ago :lol? He'll probably go down as one of the most overrated trade assets in Spurstalk history. Also, If the Spurs wouldn't amnesty his ass when he was actually making money, why would they dump him when he's making practically nothing? Besides, coach loves him. The dude is to Pop what sunlight is to plants.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

If there's anyone on the team that I kinda want PATFO to move, it's Boban, since his value is dropping a lot, and I don't see him as a long-term piece.

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They need to send Boban to Austin, and teach him the PnR. He knows he's supposed to come out and stand there, and then run toward the basket. But that's exactly all he does. I swear, I've never seen another player at this level who seems that clueless about what's supposed to happen in the PnR.

They need to teach him, and they need to run it with him to give him some hands-on. Tell him to quit worrying about the post up game, and just focus on running pick and roll, and learning how to root for position on rebounds. Having him sit on the bench, and then come in and do the same thing over and over, isn't helping anybody.

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Originally Posted by MultiTroll

Emergency meeting ASAP at

Crumpets
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ElNono tell ChumpDumper of course he has the night off from baking.
I will be there 1st with tranquilizers embedded in the crumpets with chamomile tea.

We can work thru this devastation together.
Lets hold Greggors hand.

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I'm at the hospital, where you at?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

We can laugh about this all we want, but I think there's an outside chance that he gets released if this is serious enough. The Spurs don't have the room to carry him if he's injured, especially since Manu and Tim are also out. I think they're one injury away from having to look for bodies, and injured Bonner is by far the most expendable.

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Right, only way to go to 16 players is if a forth guy gets hurt and is out three games before Duncan comes back.

If Bonner is out for an extended period and Duncan isn't back soon, it doesn't afford any real opportunities to rest other guys in the rotation. Duncan coming back changes that dynamic somewhat, but still not ideal to have a roster spot wasted on Bonner.

This could be an opportunity to try out a few guys on 10 day contracts. Being over the tax, these deals would be extra costly. By waiving Bonner, could they bring him back later in the year if those 10 days don't pan out?

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Yeah, I'm actually a huge supporter of Bonner's legacy. I'm not confused into believing that he's still a good player, but I haven't been trying to get him off the team. Hell, I haven't been trying to get anyone off the team. I only propose trades to get what I think is a need for the Spurs. If there's anyone on the team that I kinda want PATFO to move, it's Boban, since his value is dropping a lot, and I don't see him as a long-term piece.

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Sadly, I am with you on Boban... he's looked worse with more opportunities so its a big disappointment. I know rookies and youngsters are going to be inconsistent, but I like to see the occasional "flash" of adequacy. I can actually expect the inconsistency offensively (bc shooting well is fickle, specially for guys with limited chances), but I'd like him to hold his own defensively for a few minutes.

I am unsure on him ultimately. I still like him, but we actually need a defensive big and he's not looking like he will be it.
There were "rumors" of interest on Adreian Payne for the summer. I think the Spurs will be looking for someone.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

At least once a year, you come up with a trade scenario that includes trading Bonner and of course, all of these trades heavily favor the Spurs no doubt. He'll probably go down as one of the most overrated trade assets in Spurstalk history. Also, If the Spurs wouldn't amnesty his ass when he was actually making money, why would they dump him when he's making practically nothing? Besides, coach loves him. The dude is to Pop what sunlight is to plants.

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Bonner was a mid-sized non-guaranteed contract in 2013-2014. That made him perfect trade ballast. That the team kept him didn't make his value overrated. He hardly had any value on his own. Rather, his contract would allow the Spurs to make up the value with picks and stashed players rather than rotation guys. He was sort of like a dust chip. And that same year, I proposed more trades involving Jack, as his expiring would have allowed the team to bring in a big contract. Or it could have been shipped out for a smaller contract with more years on it. The following year, I was into a lot of trades that used Beli, Daye and Ayres as the ballast. I did NOT suggest many if any Bonner trades. And obviously this season, I haven't suggested any, I don't think. If I have, he's been purely filler. But Butler was a better candidate for that anyway.

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Who could forget the infamous Bonner for Ariza trade proposal 5 years ago :lol?

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You, apparently. I joined in October of 2012. My Ariza proposal was in the summer of 2013 (so less than three years ago). And the Spurs were giving Washington more than they ended up getting when traded Trevor the next season. Bonner was again the ballast (though by this time his contract was guaranteed). Blair, whom the Wizards wanted and actually ended up trading for, was the asset.

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Originally Posted by cjw

Right, only way to go to 16 players is if a forth guy gets hurt and is out three games before Duncan comes back.

If Bonner is out for an extended period and Duncan isn't back soon, it doesn't afford any real opportunities to rest other guys in the rotation. Duncan coming back changes that dynamic somewhat, but still not ideal to have a roster spot wasted on Bonner.

This could be an opportunity to try out a few guys on 10 day contracts. Being over the tax, these deals would be extra costly. By waiving Bonner, could they bring him back later in the year if those 10 days don't pan out?

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They definitely could unless someone claims him. If they do that, Bonner's complete contract comes off the books for cap/tax reasons. So that might be the best-case scenario. But if no one claims him, he's re-signable for the stretch run.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

Sadly, I am with you on Boban... he's looked worse with more opportunities so its a big disappointment. I know rookies and youngsters are going to be inconsistent, but I like to see the occasional "flash" of adequacy. I can actually expect the inconsistency offensively (bc shooting well is fickle, specially for guys with limited chances), but I'd like him to hold his own defensively for a few minutes.

I am unsure on him ultimately. I still like him, but we actually need a defensive big and he's not looking like he will be it.
There were "rumors" of interest on Adreian Payne for the summer. I think the Spurs will be looking for someone.

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Boban is playing more and more against 1st & 2nd stringers who, in turn, are making Boban look every bit like the 3rd stringer that he is.

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Originally Posted by GSH

They need to send Boban to Austin, and teach him the PnR. He knows he's supposed to come out and stand there, and then run toward the basket. But that's exactly all he does. I swear, I've never seen another player at this level who seems that clueless about what's supposed to happen in the PnR.

They need to teach him, and they need to run it with him to give him some hands-on. Tell him to quit worrying about the post up game, and just focus on running pick and roll, and learning how to root for position on rebounds. Having him sit on the bench, and then come in and do the same thing over and over, isn't helping anybody.

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Yes, his screens don't really free the ballhandler. I think he's scared of the moving screen call or an O-foul.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

We go through this at least once a year. It's Chinook's wet dream that Bonner be released or traded but that's not happening. The Spurs had 4 years to amnesty the son of a bitch and chose to keep the rotting corpse on the roster. Whether or not the Spurs can waive him is moot. He's not going anywhere.

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Actually, that would be me, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Bonner was a mid-sized non-guaranteed contract in 2013-2014. That made him perfect trade ballast. That the team kept him didn't make his value overrated. He hardly had any value on his own. Rather, his contract would allow the Spurs to make up the value with picks and stashed players rather than rotation guys. He was sort of like a dust chip. And that same year, I proposed more trades involving Jack, as his expiring would have allowed the team to bring in a big contract. Or it could have been shipped out for a smaller contract with more years on it. The following year, I was into a lot of trades that used Beli, Daye and Ayres as the ballast. I did NOT suggest many if any Bonner trades. And obviously this season, I haven't suggested any, I don't think. If I have, he's been purely filler. But Butler was a better candidate for that anyway.

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Remind me again why an opposing team would want a Spurs 2nd round draft pick (58th and 60th in 2014) or the rights to a stashed player who'd most likely never see the light of day in the association? It would have been lunacy to give up a 1st rounder. What would be the incentive for an opposing team to pull a trigger on that trade?

LOL Bonner's staying

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

Actually, that would be me, tbh.

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Im with u and have been for years tbqh...

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Originally Posted by Sean Cagney

Im with u and have been for years tbqh...

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I know but I've come to terms that he'll not only never go away but that he will eventually be Pop's successor, tbh.

pulling a calf while shooting a three ... he is done tbh

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

I know but I've come to terms that he'll not only never go away but that he will eventually be Pop's successor, tbh.

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Hey man atleast he hardly plays at all so that is a huge plus.

Any word yet?

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Originally Posted by EmantheSpursFan

Any word yet?

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he's dead jim

Questionable for tonight.

Bonner left calf strain. those take time to recover from.

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/696030953274220544

Boban is a terrible rebounder and defender. He's a good passer, makes his free throws and can dunk but he doesn't do much else very well. He is Boban.

If Bonner is released, pop will immediately release chip Engelland and rehire Bonner as the new shooting coach.

Calf strains truly are notoriously slow to heal completely.