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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
One glaring problem is Parker having to defend the post... THAT was a big handicap last game
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
What do you mean treat Green as a wing and not a big? Do you mean you mark him with a wing? Wouldn't that be playing down to Warriors small ball? I still believe Diaw destroy's Green. Green cant guard him, and Diaw can.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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apalisoc_9
I'm still working on my equipment. I also need a guest and a good amount are interested in listening but there's non existant interest to come up as a quest.
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You need to create another thread to ask who would like to come on as a guest. I vote for Chinook or SA Girl. But I think a raging UNT will be your best bet
Best would be to trick old pedo to come on and answer track and field questions. Then after some softballs, hit him with a full on assault about his child love.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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tbdog
What do you mean treat Green as a wing and not a big? Do you mean you mark him with a wing? Wouldn't that be playing down to Warriors small ball? I still believe Diaw destroy's Green. Green cant guard him, and Diaw can.
Means you guard him with a wing and guard one of their wings with a PF. And Diaw would have to go SSJ2 to destroy Green. He's just not good enough usually, on either end.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
Draymond is one of the best defenders in the league and is particularly solid at post defense. If we're relying on Diaw to "destroy" Green, then we're almost certainly shit out of luck. I initially thought Aldridge exploiting the height advantage over Draymond was going to be a big key, but I'm not even sure about that anymore.
Going after a DPOTY-caliber defender 1-on-1 over and over again usually isn't a very sound offensive strategy.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
Kyle Anderson has 2 months and change to establish himself with NBA officials..
It's unfortunate, but that's the reality of the NBA..an unknown player with no reputation will pick up 3 quick fouls guarding anybody in a playoff game, especially vs. a high-profile team like Golden State..
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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SpursFan86
Draymond is one of the best defenders in the league and is particularly solid at post defense. If we're relying on Diaw to "destroy" Green, then we're almost certainly shit out of luck. I initially thought Aldridge exploiting the height advantage over Draymond was going to be a big key, but I'm not even sure about that anymore.
Going after a DPOTY-caliber defender 1-on-1 over and over again usually isn't a very sound offensive strategy.
Actually, watch any Spurs game against warriors last year and you will find Green cannot guard Diaw. I don't know why, but he just cant. Diaw just overpowers him, has enough foot speed to get pass him, is just tall enough to shoot over him, and is savy enough to out position him. Seriously, I am not being a homer here. It is the number one thing I remember watching the spurs and warriors last year. I remember seeing Warriors started to double Diaw because of this.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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Chinook
Means you guard him with a wing and guard one of their wings with a PF. And Diaw would have to go SSJ2 to destroy Green. He's just not good enough usually, on either end.
So have LMA guard Barnes?
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tbdog
Actually, watch any Spurs game against warriors last year and you will find Green cannot guard Diaw. I don't know why, but he just cant. Diaw just overpowers him, has enough foot speed to get pass him, is just tall enough to shoot over him, and is savy enough to out position him. Seriously, I am not being a homer here. It is the number one thing I remember watching the spurs and warriors last year. I remember seeing Warriors started to double Diaw because of this.
Hopefully Boris is just coasting right now, because his post game has looked pretty horrible and ineffective for the past month, tbh:lol
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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tbdog
So have LMA guard Barnes?
Yep.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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Chinook
Yep.
Wouldn't a simple baseline to baseline pick negate this strategy? Who guarded Barnes and Green in the recent Thunder game?
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Wouldn't a simple baseline to baseline pick negate this strategy? Who guarded Barnes and Green in the recent Thunder game?
Thunder had Ibaka on Barnes and Roberson and Singler on Green. As far as I say, OKC never covered covered Green with a center in normal play.
And any strategy that involves Barnes scoring all of the team's points is a win for the Spurs.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
a classic spurs ballmovement+minimum turnovers+blank injured list+some nasty aggressiveness+2014 finals game 3 or 4 field goals %. we can do it at least in one road playoff game at GSW, especially with such an upgraded roster compared to 2014.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
None of that shit will work. You have to run the 2014 scheme on them, shoot lights out and move the ball. All that other shit will fail.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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None of that shit will work. You have to run the 2014 scheme on them, shoot lights out and move the ball. All that other shit will fail.
"Welcome back to the game, let's go to Chinook with Spurs' coach DMC."
"Coach, what game plan are you going to run to neutralize the Warriors' high-powered offense?"
"Play out of our minds."
"Specifically, how can--"
*Walks away*
"Um, back to you, Ernie."
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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DMC
None of that shit will work. You have to run the 2014 scheme on them, shoot lights out and move the ball. All that other shit will fail.
Terrible just a terrible basketbal IQ. Sorry DMC.
You dont understand basketball enough.
2014 spurs ball against warriors :lol
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apalisoc_9
Terrible just a terrible basketbal IQ. Sorry DMC.
You dont understand basketball enough.
2014 spurs ball against warriors :lol
Getting your shit pushed in by inside out game by same :lol
Only teams to challege GS this year ran up-tempo offense. They didn't load the paint and get all Bobby Fischer with the game plan. They just out played the Warriors at their own game. Sure the Warriors have some serious outside shooting, but they don't have the same rebounding we have, so we get 2nd looks.
I recall people like you saying that the Heat could be beaten with the inside game because they didn't have a true center. They were beaten by running the fuck out of them. Same with the Warriors.
Either way, you're just looking for a less painful death.
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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Chinook
I liked the Thunder's defensive game plan against the Warriors up until the last eight or so minutes. They treated Green as a wing instead of a big and guarded him accordingly. At the same time, they also treated Barnes/Livingston as bigs. If the Spurs still have 2012 Jack, he'd be perfect for this series. Anderson is probably the best they could do.
The advantage GS has from having a wing on Green is that Draymond can back them down. But that won't really work against Kawhi, Green or Anderson. The first one is obvious, but the second two are the guys who will only struggle if the whistle is against them. They're both great at stealing the ball from the poster. GS is great at this as a team, but they rely on the refs to let them hack at times. If the game is called evenly, it should mean that Green is neutralized as a scorer in exchange for LMA not doing much posting up Green.
So the only thing you really have to do in relation to Curry is not let Green get the ball. If he's the screener, switch (which would be easy if you have Leonard or Anderson on him). If Bogut or Barnes is is the screener, you hedge and let those guys beat you from inside the arc. The most important thing is that you don't give secondary help. If Bogut gets the ball at the elbow, you let him make his move. You don't have someone sink off Thompson to help.
In fact, besides the hedging scenario, the Spurs should NEVER help off Thompson or Barnes. Let the dunks happen; let the layups happen. Trust that your perimeter defenders can stay in or get back into the play. Don't give them an opportunity to get into a rhythm of passing the ball. It's clear from Green's outburst that there are some fragile egos in that locker room. Not letting Draymond touch the ball meaningfully or making Curry use all the possessions on two-pointers will wear on them psychologically.
I do agree with this, but one of the reasons LMA couldn't post up Green was that draymond was literally getting away with murder down there. Actually shoving LMA. Not saying it's an excuse since LMA shoulda shoved eighth back, but that was definitely a factor. Thank god he deleted his social media:lol
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
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Chinook
Means you guard him with a wing and guard one of their wings with a PF. And Diaw would have to go SSJ2 to destroy Green. He's just not good enough usually, on either end.
I'm assuming when you say guarding one of their wings with a big you mean have Aldridge (or whoever is the PF) on Barnes? Because while Thompson is largely a product of Curry, he's good enough to take advantage of a favorable matchup like that. Just trying to follow along with your premise here
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Re: A brief analysis of how to slow the game down against the warriors. Pace related.
^ edit: just saw you answered this a few posts above. My bad. Gotcha