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Every player not named Mills struggled with their shot but they managed to claw their way back into the game with terrific defense. What's even more impressive is that while the spurs missed a ton of shots, they also didnt shy away from their gameplan.
It was actually a gutsy performance overall.
Wasted TD and LMA's performance IMHO. Kawhi carried in the 1st half and in the 3rd I guess but that 4th was just abysmal for him and for everyone not named TD, Patty and LMA.
good thing martin is coming to clean up KLs 4th quarters
Kawhi had no help. He had no space the whole game.
If anything this L may just make Pops mind up about possibly going balls out for the 1 seed and just settle in on securing the 2 seed...
Solid take. I thought the team gutted it out despite a terrible first half performance, even if it wasn't enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Yeah, when you shoot 35% and still should have won with one or two calls going the other way, you know you're the better team.
lol. lebron style huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
We were never gonna get the 1 seed unless the Warriors lost 5+ games the rest of the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by crc21209
Kawhi went into the 4th 2-6. Including wide open threes..fwiw
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Originally Posted by tholdren
His team wasn't making their shots. Clawed back from 16 down. Had the chance to tie the game...Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
Cavs just lost to one of the worst lineups I've seen in years, tbh:lol..makes you feel a little better about tonight's L..
@ home tooQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Kawhi was our best player out there and we blaming him? We get blown out by 40 without him. :lmao
KL got a lesson from George.
Give one back to Paul.
Couldn't hit a 3 to save our lives. But kept it close.. time to keep that b2b winning streak alive. Perfect loss to get another streak going with some tough teams coming to our house
This is actually a solid take.
Maybe - but his chucking, and not getting buckets and or stopping the clock, is why he's not yet there. Dude has to hit the threes or get to the rack.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
no denying mills green and manu shot horribly. Superstar has to step up his game
Yes he is and he was unable to carry us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Who cares what we lose by, we lost.
Man up pussy boy and just admit it. Tony was even worse.
You have run out of your allotment of :lmao
So for gods sake use something else.
17% from 3. Horrendous. Hard to come back from a shit 1st hlf
Superstar isn't going to win shit if his players don't make shots too.Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
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Originally Posted by dabom
Why? Both scored 23 points in some horrible shooting night, Kawhi 9-23 PG PG 7-20...The same asts, TOs, Kawhi had 1 more rebound...Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
No Kawhi, please, don't take lessons from George and his 45 FG% in the season...just keep doing your things, and try to shoot better tomorrow.
Took a miracle TP injury for them to get close but still a gutsy performance....albeit poor from an execution standpoint.
They weren't catching Golden State regardless and I think the Dubs will still go all out regardless of the Spurs record to catch the Bulls record....hopefully the Spurs catch an injury break like Ibaka from '14 tbh....:lol
Horrible shooting night. The Spurs will be alright.
Paul George went Matt Barnes on Kawhi tbh. This is the scariest takeaway from tonight.
Golden state have a similar guy in Green that can go matt Barnes as well.
Sucks tbh
He crushed George the first meeting. George had him getting very erratic. Kwahi is supposed to be much better than this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Loss is a loss
Lol stfu cocksucking faggot. Why don't you go fuck your mother some more.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
And you said the same after the game in Orlando or NO, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by tholdren
^^^This & the Cavs lost so there was no ground lost as far as HCA in the Finals. I'm also glad Porker got injured b/c he needs to get his head out of his ass. The only thing I'll be invested in from now on is the OKC/Cripples seeding & maybe the 1st rd opponent both the Spurs/Worriers.Quote:
Originally Posted by crc21209
1 bad game and PG is the better player now?Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Truth hurts I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
kawhi can't handle bullying very well. And you can't handle the truth very well :lol
The only one bullying anyone was Kawhi in the post, even the homer Pacers commentators were impressed.:sleepQuote:
Originally Posted by hater
This dudes a clown and loves jimmerQuote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Yes. And I will continue until he learns how to decipher good shots from just shots in order to take over a game - its more than just scoring a lot of points. KL is having a heck of a year, but I want to see him carry the team even if everyone else blows. That is what a superstar does. He's got to get it down. Thats his next stepQuote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
I don't know why you reply to him..he wanted Kawhi to get benched for good during the 2014 title run:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
He detests young Black American players, tbh..he has essentially admitted it..
loves jimmer? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bic50
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Originally Posted by pgardn
:lmao This bad trolling...Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
Kawhi was 9-24 against the Kings and 9-23 in this game, it's pretty obvious he's not shooting well, getting into a slump, and PG had nothing to do with it.
Pgs D flustered Kawhi. He was obviously shaken and even pissed at end of the game. Constantly whining about called as well. I believe he even avoided shaking Georges hand at the end and ran to the lockerrom.
But don't let facts gwt in the way :lol
Games like these are going to happen. I didn't see any problem with the the team all other than not making shots. Sure, the minutes could have been staggered differently because Kawhi-TD--Aldridge was gassed.
The only down i can maybe complain about is Diaw. Hes been really bad this year. Nigga been playing lazy ball all year. Someone tell his fatass how to box out.
Also the refs screwed the spurs all night but yet Spurs were still in it....Bad shooting and the refs doing there thing but yet Spurs still had a chance in the end......plus it was a road game ...
Well, I wasn't on ST in 2014 but I remember he said during the offseason -after the Spurs signed LMA-...that Kawhi should be the Spurs' #4 option :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Meh, the refs were terrible on both ends :lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by spurtech09
Yeah that's why Indiana had a lot of FTs.....bs Ticky Tack foulsQuote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Watch the game, he was sloppy. He is OUR guy now, it's unacceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
How about that foul on George with 15 seconds left?
WTF was that?
We don't give up like that.
Pop would have blown a gasket.
Trolling my ass, watch the game and Fck you stat ridden mind.
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
Because of I watched the whole game I find your posts so wrong-funny...You know, when you read something that is so stupid it's funny
Oh my god, were 53-10 and just lost on the road, chill the fuck out:lol we had a bad night, it happens, its the fucking nba lol, Dubs lost to the LAKERS yesterday. Were fine
This loss would usually mean nothing to me, but Parker worries me. I would've preferred him showing up while LMA or Kawhi have the off game (since LMA and Kawhi have proven their consistency this season).
Like it or not, our playoff hopes rest on him, per usual through the Pop-era. LMA/Kawhi are simply not enough (it has nothing to do with them. Shaq and Kobe wouldn't be enough in today's league. You need 3rd and 4th guys who are 20 point game threats these days).
Well what can I say?Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Im good at entertaining retards.
Special Education comedy is easy with the dolt ridden crew.
I agree to an extent, but I don't think Parker has to be the "3rd or 4th threat"..he's the best ball-handler and penetrator on the team, so he's still useful, but using him as a high-usage scorer is only going to be optimal vs. the Cavs, among contending opponents..Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightpulp
Spurs need 1 of Parker/Ginobili to play well, from what we have seen since 2013..they can survive if 1 of them struggles..
Agreed. Even in the game thread I said I wanted to see the stops at the end of the game, whether SA made or missed. This was about as poor of a game as you can have offensively and on the road against a team fighting for a playoff spot you still gave yourself a chance to win.
My concern is not just TP. It's the SL. Too many times there has been 2-3 guys starting that give you absolutely no offensive production. Its usually bulk scoring from LMA/Kawhi. Spurs can survive with Tim not scoring IMO because of his impact on defense, but SA needs at least one DG/TP chipping in more consistently. Getting less than 15 points between 2-3 of your starters is tough even with great defense.
All true, but not totally unexpected..it has been 4 months, but it generally takes over a full season of basketball to incorporate a new system and adding in a high-usage player like Aldridge to the team..it's part of the reason the Spurs' record is so surprising(along with terrible competition, this season)..Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Parker had been the primary creator in the same system for 5 years, and this is the first time Green has ever played in a different NBA system, as well..
I'm not advocating high usage for him, but there's going to be games (in the playoffs) in which LMA and/Kawhi are struggling/facing doubles all game, so we need that additional scorer, preferably a perimeter scorer, who can help relieve that pressure. I'm behind Parker so strongly this season because when he's in form (not necessarily scoring 20, but pressuring the defense with penetration and probing), the Spurs go to another level.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
As we know, a huge factor in the 2014 run was Manu's resurgence, but I just can't expect a 38 year old with that kind of play style to even be a consistent double digit scorer in a late round playoff series. Patty can indeed pop off, but he matches up terribly all around with Golden State.
We need November Tony.
Last year he had a run of about 7 games near the end of the season where he was fast. Then he went sour before the playoffs and was horrible during the loss to Clip. Makes me think even minor stuff from the waist down has a significant affect.
Watching Manu today, we def need Parker...whoever is throwing the ball game away should be benched though.
Sure, I'm not blaming as much as I am observing what has happened. I think DG will get more looks, but it's interesting to see that even for a low usuage rate career player, he's suffered a decent % dip in usage rate. Not surprised he is suffering and luckily all of his defensive metrics grade out the same as previous years. IMO, DG's issue is just time adjusting.
TP luckily has done well from 3 which is nice development. Not something you will want to rely on, but him becoming serviceable there should help. But no matter what, TP/DG have to chip in offensively. The SL defense is rock solid so if they can just turn the corner with TP/DG getting a few more good looks, they should be rocking.
You have to get used to the fact that SA is not going to be some offensive juggernaut anymore. They are still damn good there, but it's more bulk scoring in the SL from LMA/Kawhi and then bench. They rely on efficiency on offense (great FG, FT & 3PT rankings) and amazing defense. If the Spurs can just get a slight uptick from the SL scoring they should be damn tough to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightpulp
I just can't believe we have only 10 losses at this point of the season with such a pathetic backcourt tbh
It has trended this way. Lately it has really been Kawhi and LMA scoring and taking 20-22 shots and the other taking 17-18. Here they both went to 20+ shots. We are not the Thunder and supposed to win on two superstars alone. Danny takes whatever is given. He's a roleplayer period. If he can make shots it loosens up everyone and we even get into garbage time territory, but strict shooters as he is are streaky and and he's always been like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
Tony lately not producing has been an issue, a big one.
And TD, what can you say? Its hard to criticize him, but I think he does need to be an offensive threat bc if he's in the game and not taking opportunities, then he's just clogging the paint for others period. With the exception of a couple of recent good games, after his return from the knee he has been absolutely ghastly scoring. Obviously we are better defensively with him there but we need him to be efficient in the paint to have a chance.
Also, an underrated aspect here is that the bench was poor too. Manu had the out of rhythm game we expected from him his first game back, and the schedule is going to get tougher. Diaw didn't give much in this one, and neither Anderson, nor West took enough shots. Generally teams tend to be more inefficient when two guys get 43 shots among them in the SL and Manu and Mills are the only ones taking shots in the bench it means roleplayers are not getting good looks in the offense.
Frankly I think Pop would have shaken things up a bit, be more bold than Messina was, who stuck to what wasn't working.
Well, the good news is if anyone has the role players to be a better OKC, it's SA. Sure, LMA/KL are not the offensive dynamos that Durant/WB are, but the team defense is miles better and so are the role players for when you need them.
No loss is satisfying.
It is satisfying to see the team make a come back in a game they were shooting very poorly in collectively. They competed. But the loss itself, no. Crap!
Shit happens, wasn't a bad game TBH. Fought back to get close against a decent Indiana team.
Don't let Indiana beat you on Tuesday night.
I'm really really really worried about this team's offense. Too much dead weight in the starting lineup and our bench is very inconsistent on the road.
It's really really hard to find players on this team you can trust to deliver for you at this stage which is scary considering the playoffs are right around the corner. I have faith in Kawhi, but even LMA is a question mark in matchups against contenders and everyone else you have absolutely no idea what they're going to give you on any given night.
I aggre: and it is the mark of only having two young studs in their primes. The rest are too old (most of the roster) or too young (Anderson mostly, Simmons and Boban when they play not so much that young, but they are inexperienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
Older players are going to be up and down. Timmy frankly is hit and miss offensively and bc he clogs the paint (really, does anyone debate that?) he needs to be shooting better inside. Danny is a streaky shooter. Tony, well you know. He's a difference maker when he's on, when he is not, we have to be sincere and admit he's important to the team and its hard to overcome bad performances from him and he is getting to the point in his career when its hard for him to be that consistent too.
Then you have Diaw (WTF is up with him? he is not coasting), WEst is also older, and as good of a passer as he is, he is also prone to the same passiveness Diaw and Anderson have been guilty of at times. He got some good looks inside where he could have been more forceful, and maybe even draw fouls, but kept kicking out to a stone cold Patty for 3s. Its fine to keep feeding Patty but he took 13 shots and you just 3: shoot the damn ball D.West!
Then you have the other end of the spectrum. Anderson is too young to expect him to be consistent at anything but his own effort and to keep his aggressiveness up at all times. Hopefully we see him develop and get better, but he's young with a developing game. Lets just recognize his youth and that he's learning to play in this league and I actually thought he was aggressive in this one taking it to the hoop, where he missed some contested looks but he was also successful drawing fouls. I much rather keep Anderson doing things like that. That he's been able to keep our bench afloat in Manu's absence in a few games is actually an accomplishment.
I have changed my mind on Simmons. I think he should be kept and I hope they don't release him. Anderson is very skilled and talented, but he needs an athletic wing partner and Simmons could be it. Eventually they really could be a nice combo, Simmons has his own game to polish a bit (specially on defense, once coaches trust him on that side of the ball, he will get more playing time IMO), but Kyle is a very unselfish player and passer in transition and that is Simmons game. The two together can be better than the individual parts.
mills shot 6 for 13. parker shot 2 for 8. also, we went on that 23-15 to end the game after parker left.Quote:
Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
To have a chance to tie it up in the last minute of the game after that horrible offensive performances is pretty amazing really. It was hard to watch. :bang
Is this game a reminder that we are just a pretenders? And just like last time when Warriors lost a game and there was oportonity to get closer Spurs couldn't face the pressure and came also with a loss, is this because it's Kawhi led team?
Eh, Spurs crushed OKC in game 5 and beat them at their house in game 6 with Ibaka in there. Nobody was stopping them in 014. That being said GSW with HC will be VERY hard to beat if healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
I am starting to get to the point where I fell nobody will beat GS in the PO. Curry is hitting at the most ridiculous level the NBA has ever seen, and his supporting cast is really built up to support the way he plays. I hope, I am not right, but barring any major injuries, nobody will beat GS 4 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Cagney
Green. Just green
Idk.. there was nothing satisfying about watching them miss tons of open 3s and lay ups.
Also nothing good about execution at the end, or that foul call on a clean swipe on monta that became a 4pt swing.
Seeing chucking guards light up the Spurs is kinda torturing.
CIA Pop.
Just a favor to Indiana for agreeing to trade kawhi for George
Before last night the Spurs controlled their own destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
Yeah but if you looked at the schedule you would realize that we have 4 or 5 more losses to come tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
i feel like this is a key difference between us and GSW.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs10
we both shot like crap in our last losses, but we gave ourselves a chance to win at the end with defense while their best defense is a great offense. even last night, they needed 116 to beat the Magic by 5.
bad shooting games are going to happen in the playoffs, but can you counter that with good defense. The Spurs biggest problem is that we seem to have a lot of slow starts and bad shooting games. But hopefully our defense can keep us within striking distance
That's why you play the games. One need not look at the schedule to know that the Spurs controlled their own destiny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
Now they need help.
the difference between us and Warriors is that Warriors would have won that type of game cause they fantastic at close games and finishing comebacks while Spurs falling short...Quote:
Originally Posted by TDomination
Let me spoil this for you now. We are not getting the 1 seed. We were never getting the 1 seed. That isnt how Pop coaches this team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
Spurs will be fine.
Yeah, you missed my point. The Spurs controlled thier own destiny for the first time since week 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs 4 The Win
Anything beyond that is just you making assumptions about what's yet to transpire.
Carry on though.
We controlled our destiny for almost the entire season actually.... In fact one of the first times we didnt was after we lost to Golden State, but okayQuote:
Originally Posted by Agloco
he still can't close, nor hasn't in the playoffsQuote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
I don't think it was wasted - consider their goal isn't to set any regular season records but to improve and test that improvement against good teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100%duncan
Your probably right, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
Attention whore thread, tbh.