Last night's game from Parker was an example of how he needs to be that 3rd scorer

Agreed OP, Parker had a good game last night, and that's the type of TP we'll need in the playoffs. Can he do it consistently is the question. It's unlikely he can, but honestly we'll only need him to do it consistently against the Dubs and in the finals. We'll coast thru our 1st round, and honestly OKC doesn't scare me since we'll have home court.

I also thought it was a smart move on Pop to put Kawhi on Rose and keep Parker's legs fresh on offense.

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And it's always going to skew the results of low usage/low minutes bench players. I mean, RPM has Marcelo Huertas over players like Jordan Clarkson, D'Angelo Russell, and Zach LaVine. :lol I hope the league GMs take RPM as gospel and lure Marcelo with a sizable contract. I also think Simmons moved into top ten among SGs in RPM a couple of times this year :lol

The majority of Patty House's minutes come against bench players. And yes, I do know it "adjusts," but lighting up scrubs is still going to give a player a nice RPM. That's what you don't understand, per par.

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Insinuating Patty is a 1 hit wonder. :lmao

He has been doing it his whole career. :lmao

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Insinuating Patty is a 1 hit wonder. :lmao

He has been doing it his whole career. :lmao

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He's by no means a one hit wonder. He's great in his role as a sparkplug off the bench. Wanting to destroy the PG depth and that Parker/Mills dynamic out of petty hate is retarded. Patty being able to light up scrub PGs is a big reason why our bench is as dangerous as it is.

Time to calm the Parker hate, bro. It's an antiquated mentality around here.

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He's by no means a one hit wonder. He's great in his role as a sparkplug off the bench. Wanting to destroy the PG depth and that Parker/Mills dynamic out of petty hate is retarded. Patty being able to light up scrub PGs is a big reason why our bench is as dangerous as it is.

Time to calm the Parker hate, bro. It's an antiquated mentality around here.

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I call it how I see it. No agenda. Spurs fan through and through. What you are saying is not gonna work. I thought you would know by now.

Kawhi and LMA are gonna feed. Those 2 will be our one two punch.

3rd leading scorer will be by committee. Some nights it will be Duncan or Manu or Patty or Green or Tony.

That's like after Manu had a throwback game and I said he should be our 3rd leading scorer on demand. Not gonna work like that.

I just find your premise outdated brah. Maybe next time. :td

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I call it how I see it. No agenda. Spurs fan through and through. What you are saying is not gonna work. I thought you would know by now.

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And Patty/40 year old Andre Miller is going to work? Yeah, okay.

Like it or not, we have no other alternative and have to roll the dice on Tony. You must have not been following the Spurs for very long. EVERY run (aside from the team play anomaly of 2014) since '03 has came down to whether or not Tony plays well (yeah, Speedy bailing him out, but we don't beat the Lakers without him). Wanting Tony phased out/limited kills the team's PG depth.

Patty also can't pressure defenses like Tony though dribbling, probing, and penetrating. He's not the passer Tony is. He doesn't run the offense like Tony. Patty is the typical "spark plug" player in the mold of Eddie House, Bobby Jackson, and the like. I might have agreed with you if Manu was 30 (the Spurs can get away with limiting a poorly playing Tony when Manu is on), but he isn't.

No one is saying get rid of Tony dude. He just has to have a smaller role than usual. The team doesn't revolve around him anymore. That is done. No more. Pooof.

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in the lineup. Perfect balance among our 3 best scorers, and that's the kind of consistency we're going to need from those 3 moving into the post-season. The bench was absolute garbage, which is something that typically happens in the post-season (role players disappearing, vets getting gassed or banged up, young players shitting their pants, etc), and when games like this happen, LMA and Kawhi just won't be enough. If Parker had an "Enrique" game, we lose our first home game.

Duncan and Manu just aren't consistent enough as scorers any longer, and Mills remains a wild card (drops 15-18 points one night, goes 3-9 the next).

And if the bench comes alive (they've been dormant for like 2 weeks) again, we have a chance at winning this thing.

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Good take man. Have to have balance and TP playing at a high level if we're going to have a shot to ring...Great win overall last night, need to keep it consistent and Pop needs to control TP's minutes so he's fresh going in...

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Duncan and Manu just aren't consistent enough as scorers any longer, and Mills remains a wild card (drops 15-18 points one night, goes 3-9 the next).

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That's the thing...Parker has been just as much a wild card as Mills. But, with Parker, it seems more of an emotional/attitude thing than a skill thing. I think Parker went off because of how well Andre did the previous game...it was an "attitude" adjustment kinda thing. Mills is just Mills, he'll play hard every night, but just not as skilled as Parker. Parker...who the f knows why some nights he'll play hard and some nights he wont. Toe's aside...

Having said that, we need Parker to play well. He can be awesome, like last night. We need Manu and Timmy to play well too. Just one more time...;)

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Kawhi and LMA are gonna feed. Those 2 will be our one two punch.

3rd leading scorer will be by committee. Some nights it will be Duncan or Manu or Patty or Green or Tony.

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The PPG and usage stats disagree with you.

And of course on "some nights" those players will score more than Tony or even LMA and Kawhi, but that doesn't mean Pop designs it that way. If he did design the offense for the 3rd leading scorer to be by "committee," then their PPG and usages would be closer. Maybe in other years when Duncan and Manu were more consistent, but it seems you haven't been watching how awful both have looked on offense lately.

Sorry brah. The outdated premise is thinking "Beautiful Basketball" is going work like it once did. Manu and Tim are two years older, and the top teams in the league have studied that 2014 beatdown of Miami and the Spurs system like literature majors study Shakespeare.

Insinuating I want this team to play like 2014. :lol

Dude just stop. That's when you know you got shit. :lol

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Sorry brah. The outdated premise is thinking "Beautiful Basketball" is going work like it once did. Manu and Tim are two years older, and the top teams in the league have studied that 2014 beatdown of Miami and the Spurs system like literature majors study Shakespeare.

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Wow...that was pretty good. :)

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That's the thing...Parker has been just as much a wild card as Mills. But, with Parker, it seems more of an emotional/attitude thing than a skill thing. I think Parker went off because of how well Andre did the previous game...it was an "attitude" adjustment kinda thing. Mills is just Mills, he'll play hard every night, but just not as skilled as Parker. Parker...who the f knows why some nights he'll play hard and some nights he wont. Toe's aside...

Having said that, we need Parker to play well. He can be awesome, like last night. We need Manu and Timmy to play well too. Just one more time...;)

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:lol wait so Parker did well because he's worried the 40 year old 3rd string PG had a good previous night???

Come on now. Parker just took the team on his back because we stunk the previous game he played.

Just being the head of the snak that's all

He looked rested... hope Pop continues to rest him here or there... that game and a half off looked like it did pretty good to him... he didn't even look like he gained weight...

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No one is saying get rid of Tony dude. He just has to have a smaller role than usual. The team doesn't revolve around him anymore. That is done. No more. Pooof.

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It never revolved around him aside from that brief 09-11 period. if anything, I'm advocating a return to Tony's natural "3rd wheel" role he had in the title years pre-2014.

Knowing Parker's inconsistency, I would love if we had another wing/guard that could be that 3rd 15-18ppg guy consistently, a player that opponents gameplan for, but we don't (unless Manu or Tim have a resurgence, which is highly doubtful).

You keep saying we need this 3rd consistent scorer. We just need Tony to not be a fucking shit bag like 2014 and we lost in the last play to a ref mistake game 7 while green splitter were also shit bags and kawhi having subpar last 3 games, Manu not playing good.

You basically have to have 5 rotation players playing F game for the Spurs to lose. I don't expect that every year faggot. :lmao

If Tony was not going game 6 manu 2013 for like 6 games we win easy. :lmao

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I would love if we had another wing/guard that could be that 3rd 15-18ppg guy consistently, a player that opponents gameplan for, but we don't (unless Manu or Tim have a resurgence, which is highly doubtful).

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Manu hasn't been a 15-18ppg scorer (consistently, not one game here and there) for 5 years already. Duncan, 2 years. That ship has sailed.
Tony is taking way fewer shots then he used to, he's the most efficient he's ever been in terms of % but his scoring has dropped by 4ppg.

Patty isn't back to the level he had 2 years ago yet (his % dropped, in particular) but he's getting there. Diaw's numbers haven't fallen as much as one would think. It's just the rest of the bench which is highly inconsistent.

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Insinuating I want this team to play like 2014. :lol

Dude just stop. That's when you know you got shit. :lol

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Then who is the 3rd scorer here?

Name one player other LMA, Kawhi, or Tony to have back-to-back 20 point games this season? I don't care that Patty or Manu can drop 20 once every 15-20 games. To win a title, we're going to need a 3rd guy who is a threat to score that every night. Don't misconstrue that as me wanting Pop "planning for Tony" to have a certain number of shots, but opposing teams should worry about him to the point where they have to gameplan for him. Gameplanning for 3 players is a lot harder than gameplanning for 2.

We have the most consistent bench in the league...

That was fast Parker.


If the crew can't see it tough luck.
We need that Parker.

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Then who is the 3rd scorer here?

Name one player other LMA, Kawhi, or Tony to have back-to-back 20 point games this season? I don't care that Patty or Manu can drop 20 once every 15-20 games. To win a title, we're going to need a 3rd guy who is a threat to score that every night. Don't misconstrue that as me wanting Pop "planning for Tony" to have a certain number of shots, but opposing teams should worry about him to the point where they have to gameplan for him. Gameplanning for 3 players is a lot harder than gameplanning for 2.

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All our players are deadly. Not just 2.

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That was fast Parker.


If the crew can't see it tough luck.
We need that Parker.

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We also need 2005 Manu.

We need that Manu.

You see how it doesn't make sense?