I actually laughed out loud reading this. It's an order of magnitude less ridiculous than the bullshit posted above you, but at least it was worthy of responding to. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
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I actually laughed out loud reading this. It's an order of magnitude less ridiculous than the bullshit posted above you, but at least it was worthy of responding to. :toastQuote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
If there is anyone that could give KG trouble, it would be Hakeem b/c he was agile & quick enough to keep up w/ KG on the perimeter but he still wouldn't have been able to do anything w/ his jumper & fadeaway.Quote:
Originally Posted by KL2
This shit again?:lol
Guess we'll be doing this until the end of time. Olajuwon is the best big man to ever pick up a basketball. If you are saying you'd start your team with another player, you are a fucking liar, homer or both.
We are going to ignore how small he came up in the '98 series against the Jazz even w/ rookie Tim on his side?Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeGuy
Dude has been outplayed in 3 postseason series by the biggest choker of the 90s (Karl Malone).:lol
He couldn't keep up with Shawn Kemp, I don't think he'd be able to keep up with KG especially since KG can actually handle the ball and has a much better perimeter game, dude looked slow on the perimeter against one of the original "monkey ballers".Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Shawn Kemp was MUCH quicker than KG who had long strides (Admiral at his peak was actually quicker than KG) & Hakeem was at the tail end of his prime in '96 when Kemp destroyed Horry. In the '96 Finals, even Rodman couldn't keep up w/ Kemp who was able to check Pippen on the other end.Quote:
Originally Posted by KL2
Yea, but teams are always threatening to move w/o an arena. And would not the arena have came at some point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Shawn Kemp was more athletic than KG. Two totally different players.Quote:
Originally Posted by KL2
Kemp couldn't handle the ball like KG though, KG could easily bring him out further on the floor and get whatever he wanted against him with his ball handling. Olajuwon's perimeter defense on Kemp was pretty poor, Kemp was getting wide open jumpers whenever he wanted, just couldn't make them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Rodman was a small guy, just 220lbs soaking wet, it's laughable that he was even a PF guarding players like Olajuwon.
Garnett is the 2nd best PF of all-time, tbh..it's sad that mainstream narrative has hurt the perception of his career..
I agree with OP about Robinson, though..he had his struggles and underperforming moments, but he's unfairly scrutinized for the Rockets series..somehow, despite being a top 20 player of all-time with athleticism that was ahead of it's time and several historic accomplishments(quad-double, 70 points, etc), it seems like he's remembered more for that Houston series, rather than his actual career..
Bruh, I don't live next to a dirty creek. The Spurs could play on another planet for all I care which is why I brought up the SA native bias when it comes to Admiral.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Parker and Leonard, respectivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by keeferob25
Maybe go to the t-wolves site and suck off Gay-GQuote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Moses Malone is the only center that was able to outplay Kareem in a playoff series when the latter was an All-NBA 1st team member ('81). He then mauled him in the '83 Finals forcing Kareem to pump iron in the off-season. Admiral wishes he had Moses's playoff resume.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by keeferob25
Why do folks act like '95 WCF was the only series that Admiral under-performed? :downspin:Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
He got Karl MalOwned numerous time in the playoffs including '94 when he led the league in scoring & put up 71 points. In 94, Hakeem didn't have Drexler & it was Mad Max playing the Stephen Jackson role when he beat the Jazz during the same postseason on his way to a chip. (Hakeem won the MVP over Admiral who had better numbers b/c he made his teammates better & was a TRUE leader)
I guess folks are going to blame Rodman for '94 too after he toyed w/ Malone in two Finals series when he had a leader that wasn't scared of the Mail Man.:lol
If memory serves, everything happened at the 11th hour. The Spurs won the title right before a vote. The arena might have come later, but it would have been to attract another team to town, because the Spurs would have been gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
I don't think the Spurs were leaving, tbh. Duncan was a rock, up and coming. Something would've been worked out. SA wasn't going to let their only major sports franchise leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
No thanks, I live in SoCal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horse
Stockton played a role in the sodomizing, especially against D Robs point gaurd challenged teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Which part did you disagree with? Garnett's peak was 15 RPG and 6 APG, compared with Robinson's 13 and 4. It's commonly known that Robinson was more of a faceup player than a post player, while Garnett played a lot of "point forward" because he could bring the ball up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I'm going by memory, but it was really close. Robinson was a big reason Duncan didn't leave for Orlando as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
EDIT: Found the article. A banner ceremony the same time as the vote for the tax to fund the arena.
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/31/sp...n-antonio.html
Yeah, sorry. Kind of an uncivil response on my part, which you didn't deserve. Let me 'splain. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
People commonly say that Robinson was more of a face-up player, and more people commonly repeat it. They seem to think that somehow means that Robinson wasn't a great post-up player, which is wrong. He was more dangerous to teams as a face-up player because he was a guard in a center's body, and he could get past defenders with his athleticism instead of having to have his back to the basket. Robinson did things facing up that no seven footer has ever done, before or since, but he was a better post-up player than Garnett. Garnett had more assists, so I let the passing thing go, but at best they were equivalent rebounders in their prime. I'm actively overlooking the extra 1.1 rebounds you credited Garnett with at his peak.
Garnett's strength was his defense, and he wasn't as good as Robinson as a defender, either.
None of this is to say that Garnett was not great or not a hall of famer, because he's clearly both. He's an amazing player, and I apologize for my harsh response, but it always annoys me when people try to compare his game to Duncan or Robinson. He doesn't measure up, but he put up enough stats to fool people into sometimes making the comparison IMHO.
I was talking about a specific series. No different than people acting like the rockets didn't win in the lost Jordan/out of shape Jordan years. Rockets, nor Spurs, win shit if Jordan's dad hadn't gotten killed. Whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
David and Tim together in their primes. Maybe 10 rings..
Good find. I think Holt and company, including Duncan, were just leveraging their great product for an arena. I never felt the Spurs would leave though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
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The current deal has Holt only putting up $28.5 million of the expected $175 million price tag for the new arena. In late September, Citizens for Responsible Spending conducted a survey of 500 likely San Antonio voters from the hospitality industry. According to the data gathered, 48 percent opposed the plan, 41 percent approved and 11 percent were undecided. Hence, the campaign trail blazed by Robinson, Duncan and even Sean Elliott, who underwent a kidney transplant in August.
During the lockout, Michael Jordan baited the Washington Wizards owner Abe Pollin into a verbal sparring session by suggesting that Pollin should sell his team if he could not make a profit on it. Pollin, the league's senior owner, had a right to be angry. He had spent $200 million for a downtown arena and paid Juwan Howard $105 million the past four years. He did not ask the District of Columbia for financial assistance.
Watching the Spurs try to gouge their city for a new arena reminds us that for all the feel-good emotion a championship team can bring, what it really wants back is not your applause or worship. It's your dollar.