Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
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Obstructed_View
I think you misunderstand what he meant. He meant that Kawhi needs to get some technicals to establish his expectations to the officials and get some respect. I think he needs to do that too, and I mentioned it a few games back, but I know that Pop has told them to let him do the talking to the officials. That would be great if Pop were actually getting anywhere with the officials on his players' behalf, but instead the Spurs have become the team with the fewest FTA in the league.
Because officials respect guys who get technical fouls for arguing. Kawhi just needs to play basketball and leave the officiating disagreements to Pop.
Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
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DMC
Because officials respect guys who get technical fouls for arguing.
Whether or not they respect them is irrelevant, but they give them more free throw attempts. It's human nature. Superstars that get calls usually get technicals. Check the stats. Tim Duncan got 11 technicals in the 01/02 season, and he had forty more FTA than any other year in his career.
Now Kawhi has never gotten a tech in his career. Nobody's asking him to become Rasheed Wallace, here. I'm thinking one or two would probably do the trick.
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DMC
Kawhi just needs to play basketball and leave the officiating disagreements to Pop.
And how's that working out, you say? Pop has the second most technicals among coaches, the players are tied with the Sixers for fewest, and the Spurs are dead last in the entire league in FTA.
Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
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Obstructed_View
Whether or not they respect them is irrelevant, but they give them more free throw attempts. It's human nature. Superstars that get calls usually get technicals. Check the stats. Tim Duncan got 11 technicals in the 01/02 season, and he had forty more FTA than any other year in his career.
Now Kawhi has never gotten a tech in his career. Nobody's asking him to become Rasheed Wallace, here. I'm thinking one or two would probably do the trick.
And how's that working out, you say? Pop has the second most technicals among coaches, the players are tied with the Sixers for fewest, and the Spurs are dead last in the entire league in FTA.
Yet they have the best record in the history of the franchise. Go figure.
Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
West did try and foul McAdoo. Still funny to watch the Warriors cry about not getting the call though. I don't know what the fuck West was thinking...
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West is the bonehead in this one. Pop was telling him to foul McAdoo assuming West would know he meant on the other end and West fouled him right then and there. JVG was just pointing out that it was odd.
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Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
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DMC
Yet they have the best record in the history of the franchise. Go figure.
I'm not sure why you bring this up. Are you suggesting that the refs are the reason the Spurs have such a good record? If not, then I don't see how the Spurs' record is relevant to the conversation.
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Wildcat67
I got really annoyed with all the "The Warriors are so great to only be down X points." Yeah they weren't shooting as good as normal but neither were the Spurs so that cancels out. Why was there almost no comment on how the Spurs were shutting down the best offense in the league.
Also when Kawhi got the offensive rebound up 5 to basically seal the game, thought it was really dumb that somehow all three commentators had nothing to say.... just pure silence like their dog just got shot.
Because everyone says the warriors only lose when the splash brothers have poor games. Basically discrediting the opposing team's performance. It was very annoying. The spurs defense was excellent, and it was a factor in their poor shooting. We all know MJax wanted the spurs to win lol he is still bitter about the warriors firing him, but JVG is a warriors supporter, didn't you hear him say the spurs had "no chance" to catch up to them in the seeding. He even said last time that the warriors would go 16-0. Ugh. Fuck then, might as well give the warriors the trophy, cancel the playoffs and deliver the trophy to Oakland lol
Tas Melas and Ramona Shelburne said the same thing after the warriors lost in San Antonio. Shelburne was like "this loss means nothing for the warriors" it's just a regular season game. Well, it does mean something because the Warriors wanted to run the table and sweep the spurs in the regular season to prove that no one can stop them and they haven't won in SA in a long time.
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I don't mind JVG. Some of the shit he says gives me a belly laugh, so I can forgive the stuff that almost gives me aneurysms.
He's a net positive overall. I like pretty much all the commentators, even TNT guys. They're there as much for their personalities as they are for their expertise. Listening to Reggie and Chuck argue is part of the show.
Re: The most ignorant statement in NBA commentator history?
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pgardn
Now see this is an interesting phenomenon. Refs anticipating intentional fouls based on orders from the bench. And the fact the ref rescinded and called it inadvertent.
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gospursgojas
West is the bonehead in this one. Pop was telling him to foul McAdoo assuming West would know he meant on the other end and West fouled him right then and there. JVG was just pointing out that it was odd.
Saw this get resurrected. Yeah, turns out JVG was right, and it was West that was stupid. Can't believe he thought he should intentionally foul on the offensive end.
But that ref? If you're going to quick-call intentional fouls when alerted, you can't un-call them when the team says, "Oops." Adam Silver should have suspended that ref for at least a game. That rescinded whistle made a big difference in the game. If that happened against the Spurs, every fan here would have screamed. A few would still be screaming.
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GSH
Saw this get resurrected. Yeah, turns out JVG was right, and it was West that was stupid. Can't believe he thought he should intentionally foul on the offensive end.
But that ref? If you're going to quick-call intentional fouls when alerted, you can't un-call them when the team says, "Oops." Adam Silver should have suspended that ref for at least a game. That rescinded whistle made a big difference in the game. If that happened against the Spurs, every fan here would have screamed. A few would still be screaming.
Agreed on all points, but I went back and watched the replay and couldn't for the life of me see an intentional foul. I think the ref is the one who made the mistake, not West. West made contact with him but it looked like defense to me.
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Obstructed_View
Agreed on all points, but I went back and watched the replay and couldn't for the life of me see an intentional foul. I think the ref is the one who made the mistake, not West. West made contact with him but it looked like defense to me.
LOL. I don't have it recorded. That was what I thought when it was live. Weird sequence.
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GSH
LOL. I don't have it recorded. That was what I thought when it was live. Weird sequence.
Definitely weird. I don't think I have it anymore either. But because JVG mentioned it, I went back to look a few times and couldn't see an intentional foul, so naturally I assumed he was crazy or something. I guess he heard the same thing the ref did and made the same assumption. Unless West copped to it I think I'd give him benefit of the doubt.