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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
They're just ridiculously good, tbh..that's all there is to it..
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
They're just ridiculously good, tbh..that's all there is to it..
Dubs have bigger players and they move the ball around better. Spurs just don't have that beautiful game that they had in 2014. Also, they play too conservative relative to Dubs. Dubs are taking shots from 4 feet from the 3 point line, Spurs however don't take a lot and only take then when they are at the line and open. Can't win that way.
Spurs can't have the only athletic guy on the court be Leonard. Where the hell is Simmons?
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
They're just ridiculously good, tbh..that's all there is to it..
They are, but you really put them in the unbeatable category? I think the results are really swaying people. They are winning a lot more games statistically than they should win. Doesn't mean they aren't great; they are. But I have seen enough holes covered up by some crazy Curry play.
Spurs, if you look at the box score, did a lot of good things. They just haven't hit shots. I refuse to believe that if they get the same looks that the won't fall. Even if they don't, that doesn't change the fact GS will give you good looks and that SA has had success defending them.
Spurs got more good looks than GS, but that's why GS is so good - they have better scorers and margin for error is big with them.
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
They are, but you really put them in the unbeatable category? I think the results are really swaying people. They are winning a lot more games statistically than they should win. Doesn't mean they aren't great; they are. But I have seen enough holes covered up by some crazy Curry play.
Spurs, if you look at the box score, did a lot of good things. They just haven't hit shots. I refuse to believe that if they get the same looks that the won't fall. Even if they don't, that doesn't change the fact GS will give you good looks and that SA has had success defending them.
Spurs got more good looks than GS, but that's why GS is so good - they have better scorers and margin for error is big with them.
I don't think any of this year's teams can beat them in a series, especially without HCA..
Spurs are still their best challenge, but this team just has so many egregious flaws in his matchup:
1- Unreliable shooting
2- Lack of versatility and flexibility in lineups
3- Warriors have the best player on the floor
The first 2 are larger concerns, though..
If Green isn't making shots, Pop needs to take him out, which kills the defense, since Duncan won't be able to stay on the floor, as well..all the perimeter alternatives are poor defenders(or hit or miss in Manu's case)..when you take Duncan out, the alternative is West or Diaw, which eliminates the shot blocking and rim protection, especially if Green is also off the floor..
There's a large gap between the defensive capabilities and offensive capabilities of the Spurs starters vs. their bench..
The Warriors can run versatile lineups without any liabilities at either end, all game..if they want more offense, they can take Bogut out, and while their defense will get worse, it's not a dramatic loss..they can still put 5 guys on the floor that are above average or better on both ends of the floor, or at the very least, not liabilities(unlike the Spurs)..
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
I don't think any of this year's teams can beat them in a series, especially without HCA..
Spurs are still their best challenge, but this team just has so many egregious flaws in his matchup:
1- Unreliable shooting
2- Lack of versatility and flexibility in lineups
3- Warriors have the best player on the floor
The first 2 are larger concerns, though..
If Green isn't making shots, Pop needs to take him out, which kills the defense, since Duncan won't be able to stay on the floor, as well..all the perimeter alternatives are poor defenders(or hit or miss in Manu's case)..when you take Duncan out, the alternative is West or Diaw, which eliminates the shot blocking and rim protection, especially if Green is also off the floor..
There's a large gap between the defensive capabilities and offensive capabilities of the Spurs starters vs. their bench..
The Warriors can run versatile lineups without any liabilities at either end, all game..if they want more offense, they can take Bogut out, and while their defense will get worse, it's not a dramatic loss..they can still put 5 guys on the floor that are above average or better on both ends of the floor, or at the very least, not liabilities(unlike the Spurs)..
Sure, but I don't like acting like GS didn't suffer. It did. They gave up plenty of good looks while the Spurs contested most of theirs. They hit more shots, but that doesn't change the fact that even with everything you listed Spurs did a lot of good things.
The only issue I see as major is the shooting and that's more on SA than GS at the moment. GS has a very solid defense and an amazing offense but SA still could be right there and if they have a really good shooting night, it's over.
Even with all the advantages and a horrific shooting night(s), SA in the mix.
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
I don't think any of this year's teams can beat them in a series, especially without HCA..
Spurs are still their best challenge, but this team just has so many egregious flaws in his matchup:
1- Unreliable shooting
2- Lack of versatility and flexibility in lineups
3- Warriors have the best player on the floor
The first 2 are larger concerns, though..
If Green isn't making shots, Pop needs to take him out, which kills the defense, since Duncan won't be able to stay on the floor, as well..all the perimeter alternatives are poor defenders(or hit or miss in Manu's case)..when you take Duncan out, the alternative is West or Diaw, which eliminates the shot blocking and rim protection, especially if Green is also off the floor..
There's a large gap between the defensive capabilities and offensive capabilities of the Spurs starters vs. their bench..
The Warriors can run versatile lineups without any liabilities at either end, all game..if they want more offense, they can take Bogut out, and while their defense will get worse, it's not a dramatic loss..they can still put 5 guys on the floor that are above average or better on both ends of the floor, or at the very least, not liabilities(unlike the Spurs)..
I've been saying all season, that we need more length athletic guys to match up. Dubs are posting Parker and Mills at every opportunity.
Spurs just don't have the offense punch to catch up when they are behind. With the exception of the game against Cleveland, I don't recall the Spurs ever catching up when they were behind big. They just don't have the fire-power.
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dabom
Ill bet you 200 spurs win in a series vs the gsw with health not being a factor. Only if they play remember.
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midnightpulp
Then link a "barometer" that has the Spurs favored over GS to win the title.
I'll wait. And until you can so, I will continue to reply to your deflections and emoticons with your self portrait.
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midnightpulp
To clarify, if Kawhi sustains an injury or Curry sustains an injury, the bet is still on? Or do you want an injury out? I'm okay with both.
The bet is on. My only requirement is we both escrow the money with a trusted 3rd party (we don't have to do this now, and can wait until before the series [if it happens]).
FkLA is your boy, right? I've bet a total of a few hundred with him over the years. He's good people and can be trusted.
Deal then :tu
I will also retire the helmet shtick since you finally stepped up, unlike some of these other rubes.
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dabom
Injuries happen and bet stays on. Fkla good people. Im going to sleep. Phone dying.
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midnightpulp
Deal.
Uh-oh. Curry already worn out. :lol
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Originally Posted by
ceperez
I've been saying all season, that we need more length athletic guys to match up. Dubs are posting Parker and Mills at every opportunity.
Spurs just don't have the offense punch to catch up when they are behind. With the exception of the game against Cleveland, I don't recall the Spurs ever catching up when they were behind big. They just don't have the fire-power.
Probably the biggest concern was Patty, Danny and even Kawhi shooting poorly against them last game. Kmart was supposed to help. Nothing will help if we are not making shots. That's not even on them.
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Re: Warriors are terrifying, tbh..
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Most frightening matchup for the Spurs since peak Shaq-Kobe:(
Don't forget the '04 Lakers who had Shaq/Kobe, and then got joined by Gary Payton and Karl Malone - different, but similar to what's happened in GS this year. That Laker team was stacked. They came this close to getting knocked out by the Spurs in the second round. The T-Wolves challenged them in the WCF, and absolutely could have beaten them if Latrell Sprewell wasn't such a ball-hogging, selfish player. The point is, even thought they were hugely stacked, they didn't blow out their opponents on the way. Then they got their asses kicked 4-1 by Detroit in the Finals.
Portland bragged one year that they had two starting 5's - ten players who absolutely would have been starting on other teams. The analysts said the same thing... and it was true. But they stepped all over each other, and bombed out of the playoffs. It may be a cliché, but chemistry is still a factor. And injuries can ruin any team's season. The Warriors look unstoppable on paper, and there's no doubt they have a lot of talent. But they still have to play the games.
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Imagine what it will be like if they fail to win it all, again. Lot of pressure on this team and a lack of role players make it interesting to see what happens.
Oh and there's the whole Draymond Green wild card. There's plenty that could go wrong with the Warriors.
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ginobilized
Imagine what it will be like if they fail to win it all, again. Lot of pressure on this team and a lack of role players make it interesting to see what happens.
Oh and there's the whole Draymond Green wild card. There's plenty that could go wrong with the Warriors.
There is a ton that could go wrong, but if it happens to gel and go right I don't see anyone stopping them. I hope they get de railed as a Spurs fan, time will tell.
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Just going on record by saying I don't see the Warriors winning it all in 2017. Blowing a 3-1 lead really says a lot of about how mentally weak those guys are including Durant. They have too many choke artists on their team to pull it off.
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I think we can match up with them, its going to be pretty funny watching how hard every team is going to be going at the Warriors all season. Spurs will fly under the radar again.
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With their deep roster gutted, the Warriors are NO LONGER terrifying, imo.....
Unless of course you fear D West, hahahahaha
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I miss Boban, hmmmm.............
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Originally Posted by
Spurs9
I think we can match up with them, its going to be pretty funny watching how hard every team is going to be going at the Warriors all season. Spurs will fly under the radar again.
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totally agree with you man!
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Forgot about this thread :lol
Always amusing to see a huge sticky load blasted all over HH's face :rollin
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i hope they play okc in the second round of the playoffs.