Who else is shooting from the mid-range and dominating inside like that?
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Who else is shooting from the mid-range and dominating inside like that?
Cousins/Towns
That guy in New Orleans
Easily. The other good bigs play for shitty teams fishing lottery picks
Hmm good question.
On top of my head...Blake, Davis for sure a re better...Cousins is a dumbass but very talented..raymond is very valuable.for his team
Top 6 bigman for sure.
Brow has no post-up game, he's a jump-shooter/face-up guy like Bosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by SquawkinHawkBigCock
Cousins :lol low 40%fg player
That's b/c he takes dumb shots like WestBrick:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Aldridge dropped his season high on Brow, I'll pass up on that injury prone stat padder tbh
The guy whose out for the season (again)?Quote:
Originally Posted by SquawkinHawkBigCock
IMHO, Cousins and Anthony Davis > LMA
Cousins or Davis are the only ones you could argue. But cancer to team/injury prone so Lamarcus gets the edge to me
I had LMA as the No.2 coming into this season behind Davis. Griffin was making a point for that spot before he fell apart off the court. Davis has been so Injury plagued and is very inconsistent.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I think drummond doesn't get enough credit for his efforts.
LMA definitely makes a case. He is a big reason his record setting spurs have one of the best defenses in the game.
I can't think of a big I would take over him right now.
Cousins: dumbass and inconsistent
Towns: will be good, but too raw for now and not a winner yet
Davis: overrated and oft-injured
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Originally Posted by ivanfromwestwood
Yeah only bigs to come to mind were Griffin and Drummond. Davis is an overrated defender who's becoming a bit too much of a jump shooter for my liking, which is understandable because his post game was never elite. Cousins :lol I can't take that scrub serious, his game is unwatchable. The James Harden of big menQuote:
Originally Posted by Mnky
Better then James
God this forum and their overreactions to every single game. :lol
System player, would be lucky to average 15/6 on another team. He wouldn't be the player he is today without Pop and the Spurs grooming him.
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSpursFan
LMA deserves to be an NBA first team.
If the best options in the league are Cousins, AD, Blake, LMA, Drummond...
And people still wonder why is too hard to find decent PF/Cs...
LMA FG% has increased considerably this season... I'd say the system helps him a lot.Quote:
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSpursFan
I see you player! Holding ST down. I like that. :toast:lmaQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
haha....NO!!
Heck I take him. He's in my team, and I could care less about those other bigs. Probably none of them would be as good of a fit for us except Davis and Towns, and that is a pipedream, young franchise cornerstones for other teams... so I have to stick with LMA, bc in recent matches against them, he's owned the two of them. Them skinny kids can't guard him TBH.
:lma
Didn't we have this topic before but as "is LMA top 10, or top 20". There are no big men in the top five so it's a pretty good case that of he's top 10 then he's the top big. That is unless you think Raymond is a center. Lmao.
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^^^ This.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanfromwestwood
Missed the game, but u know LMAlpha is getting his. The league can't stop a train when it's rolling :lmaQuote:
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The answer is Blake Griffin. But he's not playing so meh.
I'd say cousins is better.
Lmao reading "Is Aldridge the best big in the NBA?" and "Was Aldridge worth it?" on the same page.
I think his combination of offense and defense including cleaning up the glass easily makes him the best big in the game. Others come close but aren't the complete package like him.
lmao you cant be the best big in the NBA when youre #15 in Power Forwards in ESPNs Real Plus-Minus and
1- Draymond
2- Boogie Cousins
3- AD
4- Blake when healthy
5- Chris Bosh when healthy
6- Paul Millsap
7- Aldridge
Gotta give him props for intangibles, for durability knock on wood, and for joining our team when a lot of glitzier fancy teams were wooing him. He's done everything we wanted and then some. There are other bigs with slightly better skills but they're lacking in mental and emotional fortitude. Only Griffin might be above him and I wonder if any other big would have fit as seamlessly
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He may also be a regular on Naruto forums.Quote:
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Draymond when he's isn't hiding behind Bogut's skirt:Quote:
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3- AD
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4- Blake when healthy
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5- Chris Bosh when healthy
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6- Paul Millsap
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7- Aldridge
Probably not the best, but the most complete, with having the whole package, for sure.
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Originally Posted by SanDiegoSpursFan
Pretty sure he was last night. Pretty sure he wasn't at the beginning of the season.
Haven't any of you noticed that no discussion about "the best" ever reaches a conclusion? The Best All-Time. The Best Of His Era. The Best At His Position. The Best This Season. It's like inviting people to drag out the stupidest thing they can think of at the moment, to try and one-up everyone else.
Go ahead - make it the 10 Best, and still nobody will agree with half the list.
Start a thread titled, "Is LaMarcus Aldridge Playing Pretty Fucking Good At The End Of The Season?" There will still be a bag of dicks wanting to argue about it.
Scoring LMA probably has the most efficient midrange game.
Now He is getting superb looks facing the basket in his comfort range. He is able to combine this with a little posting up and O rebound put backs. He never had it this easy in Portland.
Other than this there are better rebounders, shot blockers, post players, isolation guys than he is. IMO.
Oh yes... He is in shape now. He did not come to us as well prepared physically as he should have been for such a highly paid guy on our team.
I see a lot of people using the "if healthy" "if smart" asterisks. That's the whole point of putting him above bigger name more statistcally robust player. You want a stat? 60 wins. That's your stat.
Cousins should be the best... Unfortunately he's a mental midget
This. As of today, he's the best big playing. Now that he's found is place on the Spurs he is the most complete big in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
Isn't Brow in a wheelchair? How the fuck do posters here even mention him??? Smh
Of course LMAlpha is the best big. It's not even close
LMA should be in the running for the NBA all NBA first team as center this season. He and Leonard pretty much our best duo that made our team break the few team records in games won.
Probably only take Towns over him at this point.
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Originally Posted by hater
Depends. You can't deny Raymond was playing well for many more months. Depends on the voters. If it ended today I'd vote Green.Quote:
Originally Posted by BOHOLANO#21
Raymond, as a center, is a bad joke and a gimmick. Hell, he's barely a PF, sizewise. I can see him getting zero support as an All NBA center.Quote:
Originally Posted by K...
i think you are overestimating the integrity of the process. Remember he whined about the dpoy snub. That'll sway plenty of people to give him first team votes in exchange for a 2nd DPOY snub. Like LMA Raymond didn't have any big injuries. I could see a weird result with LMA and Blake splitting votes letting Raymond get in.Quote:
Originally Posted by exstatic
Not playing on Minnesota.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
No way LMA would be 2nd best playing for the Wolves.
Blake is not a center, either. I'm not sure that you understand that the vote is different from the ASG, where you only vote for frontcourt or backcourt. For Raymond to get a center spot, he would have to get more designated center votes than all but two other players. I don't see it. He will make one of the three teams as a forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by K...
Neither Blake nor Davis are better than Aldridge. When you're as young and heralded as Davis and you struggle to make an all NBA team, you're not better than a guy who, in his 1st season on a new team, led them to their best record ever (a team with 17 or so consecutive 50 win seasons and 5 rings). Eventually greatness has to be measured by success. Davis has had none. Blake hasn't either though he broke our cookie a year ago.
Aldridge has shit on every one of his counterparts at some point this season
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Originally Posted by PopTheGOAT
Over the last three to four weeks, LMA has been the best big. I don't think that means he should be crowned best big in the game; but that is the reality.
Anyone who would consider taking Cousins doesn't understand how basketball really works... he's one of the most immature players in the league, he takes many defensive possessions off completely, he's a team chemistry killer, a coach killer, etc., etc... Rodman, Artest, & multiple other guys were undoubtedly unconventional, had short fuses, etc., but coaches didn't have to fight with them to play hard-- they were giving 100% almost all of the time.
What if he keeps up producing like this right on into next year. Been a long time since we had a big that averaged over 20 points a game and 10 + rebounds
No reason he couldn't since he's at the PEAK of his prime. It's not like he hasn't done it before for MULTIPLE seasons.Quote:
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You know I bring the goods.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurraider21
:lol 6'6'' SG wannabe, that has to play PF 'cause he doesn't have the skill to play the position his height indicates he should play, being the best "big" in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
LMA is salivating at the idea of a midget guarding him in the WCF. :lol
Demarcus Cousins is better, but props to LMA, he's top 3 at worst this season.
Would you trade LMA for Boogie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
on the Kings, Tim would be scoring 20 point per game... that is one terrible team and Cousins is a shitty teammate.
I'd strongly consider it, Cousins has a higher upside for sure. Also on pace to set the NBA record for usage rate for the second year in a row:Quote:
Originally Posted by Neurosis
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...der_by=usg_pct
He's an absolute beast, I think Cousins would do very well on the Spurs, he's got his mental issues but his talent is better than that of Aldridge in my opinion.
Interesting. Maybe I should watch more Cousins but I tend to think of him as much less reliable than LMA. LMA is basically automatic from 12-20 feet and he's got really good career and season % on his mid-range. I think he's more versatile and therefore more suited to the Spurs' game because he's a, "complete" player - you know that if you get the ball to Aldridge anywhere from 20ft or less he's most likely going to bury it. Cousins doesn't seem to have that same reliability and steadiness to his game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuseddaysleeper
Not sure who I'd take on draft night if I could pick either of the two - but I think I'll admit that Boogie's a better raw talent.
Cousins is the biggest headcase in the league who is never going to get it
Draymond is a great defender. He's decent on offense if you can surround him with two of the best off ball players in the league. Just imagine how beneficial Boris would be on offense if he couldn't post up. That's Draymond on other teams.
Who would you trade him for? Cousins puts up great numbers, but he's still the same guy that Ian Mahinmi almost brought to tears in summer league six fucking years ago. It's been that long and he's still not managed to mature. At ALL. He's the best big in the league that nobody with any sense wants on their team.
Aldridge was an elite scorer who came to a new team, lost a lot of his offense, and instead of pouting, as was the expectation of his critics, he just settled in and started playing team basketball along with some enormous defense, which nobody expected from him.
Frankly, fuck yes, he's the best big in the league.
He's a shitty teammate, he's a shitty opponent, he's a shitty player to coach, and he's a shitty member of an organization. From a basketball standpoint, he's a headache for literally everyone he comes into contact with. That's worse than cancer. That's fucking smallpox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Cousins is easily the best talent. The guys a fucking beast... but LaMarcus is the guy you'd rather have just because you can trust him. Davis wasn't Davis this year. Blake's been hurt. Gaymond's actually a scrub. Towns, Whiteside, Milsap, and Jokic are all pretty good, but I'd take LaMarcus over all of 'em easy. Gasol, Duncan, Dirk are still beasts, but too old. Drummond/Jordan have no game outside of 5'... LaMarcus doesn't really even have much competition right now. That's crazy.
I've been preaching this ever since the dude has been in this league. You don't want these guys on your team. Same reason imo the Spurs got rid of Jamychal Green. Despite these guys who have these off the camera problems, people on this forum would still take anti-spur players. Off the court behavior, persona is just as important as the numbers a guy can produce on court.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tully365
If someone can ever get in Boogie's head and convince him how to be a great member of a team, holy fuck will he and that team dominate.
Just shows you the bigs in the league are pretty bad. The 90's to me was the golden age for the center position and the '00s was the golden age for the PF position. Right now both positions are weak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dro210
Boogie is a high usage, low FG%, flopper, no defense playing, full blown cancer.
He was a beast when his career was getting started but now he's just KLove.
This coming from the "retard" who says Bellinelli is as good as Larry Legend.Quote:
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:lmao you are beyond retardedQuote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
He's been bullying dem niggaz like a motherfucker.
Anthony Davis...some people have overrated him by acting like he's already a MVP or DPOTY-caliber player, but he's still better than LMA (not to mention he only just turned 23).Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Karl-Anthony Towns as well, although that has everything to do with Towns's age/potential. He's not better than LMA currently.
Millsap probably has an argument too. They're pretty close.
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Originally Posted by spurraider21
Draymond averages like 12pts a game. LMAO....HIS TRIPLE DOUBLES ARE SO OVERARED. It's rondo triple doubles. Lmao
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lmao no other big is close to Dray in impact
look at the numbers
Dray hasn't won without steph. Let's face it. LMA won games on his own while their team is resting. If u told me steph and Klay had games off I would guranteed a loss for damn sure.
That's why Kerr can't rest them because once u rest steph they lose.
No. Davis, Griffin and Cousins, are all better and Towns will be, but no one is playing better at the moment.
His volume/efficiency, this season, is impressive, considering he doesn't get to the line much and hasn't made a three all season. Prime Parker was the rare player who fit that description.
When the numbers you provide have Paul Milsap and Kevin Love as #2 and #3, color me skeptical that they mean what you seem to think they mean. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season
Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen
:lol career 43% shooter averaging a career high 13.8 points a game being the best big
Prime Garnett was more versatile. But damn, those stats are impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
You mean the guy who admitted to chasing triple doubles:lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Benoit
KG had 495 assists while playing w/ bums & dropping 23 per on 50% shooting in '02-'03. He also ripped down 1000+ rebs & ACTUALLY averaged a double-double.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadian
Lebron routinely totals 200+ blocks plus steals per year, as does Kawhi now. Lebron matches the scoring/rebounding/assists, and Kawhi scoring/rebounding (lags behind in assists, but isn't running the point). Russ will be there too. Even Danny puts together those types of block/steal numbers on the defensive end on a minutes-adjusted basis. Pace matters too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
That said, Draymond is the first player ever to average that combination of those five specific stats per 36 minutes. Stat padding or not, it's still impressive.