Is LaMarcus Aldridge the best big in the NBA?

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Originally Posted by cjw

Lebron routinely totals 200+ blocks plus steals per year, as does Kawhi now. Lebron matches the scoring/rebounding/assists, and Kawhi scoring/rebounding (lags behind in assists, but isn't running the point). Russ will be there too. Even Danny puts together those types of block/steal numbers on the defensive end on a minutes-adjusted basis. Pace matters too.

That said, Draymond is the first player ever to average that combination of those five specific stats per 36 minutes. Stat padding or not, it's still impressive.

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If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.
Swap Diaw w/ KG on the 2005-06 Suns & he would have blown away Draymond's arbitrary milestone.:wakeup

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.

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Pretty much why he's a glorified role player in my eyes.

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Originally Posted by daslicer

Pretty much why he's a glorified role player in my eyes.

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He is also NOT getting doubled nor breaking down the defense. For the most part, he stands at the top of the key with no soul near him when Curry gets doubled & gets credited for an assist against a scrambling defense playing 4-on-5. Teams also don't stop him in transition until he get to the rim b/c they are worried about Curry/Klay on the wings.

We all saw what he was made of when Kawhi was breathing down his neck thus Curry didn't even bother running PnRs with him in the 4th quarter.:lol

He is, and looks like Yogi the bear.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

We all saw what he was made of when Kawhi was breathing down his neck thus Curry didn't even bother running PnRs with him in the 4th quarter.:lol

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Even the points he scored in that game was off of broke plays, and a few garbage buckets.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

If you want to create arbitrary milestones (500 vs. 495) then KG is the only player EVER w/ 1800pt/1100RB/450AST/110STL/120BLK in a season & no one has EVER come close to matching it unlike Draymond's arbitrary milestone achieved while playing w/ two of the best shooters ever. Draymond also did it while not averaging a double-double nor having to be BOTH a scorer/distributor.
Swap Diaw w/ KG on the 2005-06 Suns & he would have blown away Draymond's arbitrary milestone.:wakeup

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Agreed - these types of milestones are a baseball relic (3,000 hits, 500 HR, 300 wins, etc.) and single season milestones in basketball that people are about anyway are averages and not totals. Per 36 or per possession metrics are more telling anyway. Only reason Green's get mentioned is because it's the big 5 stat categories and they're round numbers.

How about this arbitrary stat that doesn't rely solely on absolute counting stats? Only players with TS% over 60%, 30 points scored per 100 possessions, defensive rating under 100, and 10+ win shares. Combination of efficiency, usage (scoring) and defense:

Kareem, Admiral (x2), Lebron, Dwight, Kemp, Manu (x2), Yao. Notice how only three of those guys aren't traditional bigs (two Spurs) and the only guys on that list twice are Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Benoit

Dray just became the 1st player in NBA history to hit 1000pt/500RB/500AST/100STL/100BLK in a season

Best PF in the game and most versatile player the league has ever seen

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How many illegal screens he gets away with on that stat sheet and techs he gets away with everytime he misses his shot and argues to refs nonstop. Also he's the only player in NBA history that the coach tells him stop shooting the ball even when he only takes 10shots. Then, flips out in locker room because coach Kerr was right on telling him to stop shooting the ball because he's bricking the shots but you on the other hand say he's the best pf in the game. LMAO... If your coach tells u to stop shooting when u only take 10 shots that pretty much tells u he's a younger Joakim Noah. Lmao...������������

1st player in nba history to have over +1000 plus-minus

Highest +/- in NBA history in 1 season LMFAO

Lebron James 08-09 is the most impressive on that list... because the average MoV of the Cavs was was 8.9 PPG.

All the rest are a function of the incredible team that those players were on.

If you tell me that you would pick Raymond to start a team with over an equal age KG or Lebron I really can't help you.

Raymond is a great player, but you put him on the 76'ers and they still don't make the playoffs.

You put Lebron or KG on the 76'ers and they are a Eastern Conference finals playoff team.

I think LMA's offensive rebounding will be almost as important against GS as his ability to score. He's the ideal player to punish small lineups when he's on.

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

This thread gonna be hilarious to bump when he goes MIA in this year's playoffs

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Jazz are MIA from the playoffs every year brah. :lmao

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Originally Posted by STdalamon

This thread gonna be hilarious to bump when he goes MIA in this year's playoffs

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This alt doesn't get much play. Might as well have a Timberwolves alt.

LMA is the best 4 right now!

period!

and he will prove it in the playoffs, book it!

he can be Finals MVP!

With Marc Gasol, Unibrow and Steven Adams down with injuries, the answer to OP is Yes. Absolutely

It's not close, either

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Originally Posted by Sec24Row7

Lebron James 08-09 is the most impressive on that list... because the average MoV of the Cavs was was 8.9 PPG.

All the rest are a function of the incredible team that those players were on.

If you tell me that you would pick Raymond to start a team with over an equal age KG or Lebron I really can't help you.

Raymond is a great player, but you put him on the 76'ers and they still don't make the playoffs.

You put Lebron or KG on the 76'ers and they are a Eastern Conference finals playoff team.

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How great would he look if they started calling more hacks and illegal screens? Or if Curry wasn't trapped?

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

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:lol

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

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:lmao

39 points on 47 shots in 3 games vs the Dubs this season :rollin:rollin:rollin

"best big in the NBA" only against all the bad teams at home

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Originally Posted by Benoit

1st player in nba history to have over +1000 plus-minus

Highest +/- in NBA history in 1 season LMFAO

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OMG:lmao:lmao:lmao

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

OMG:lmao:lmao:lmao

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Almost as gay as your avatar