He isn't Spurs material.
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He isn't Spurs material.
We definitely keep him, see what happens.
Too much Bball in that huge forehead.
How he buys pillow cases for his giant pillow I don't know.
I do not expect Manu next season either.Quote:
Originally Posted by sasaint
I read a post you made about the subject and I agree. He had to be convinced to return this season. He was really ready to retire last season and it was an internal conflict and a measured decision to return. We have had a better team this season that has alleviated the burden on him, but last season it was a real drag and a grind. Him playing for the Argentinian NT too is another sign. No way a 39-40 yr old Manu can play year round and I don't think he intends to.
Beyond that, I think the team needs to get younger anyways, whether that is Kyle, Simmons or someone else frankly. I really think Manu returned to help us out this season, and then as a second factor to help develop some guys that maybe give us a starting point for a younger bench. A second season similar to this one with Kyle and Simmons off the ball and splitting minutes etc., not playing them together except a rare game is not going to further develop them. If they want to build up from what advancements they made from dleague last season, to some NBA competition this season, to regular rotation players, the next step is they have to be placed in a position to make plays regularly more frequently. Kyle for example has been inconsistent in production but that is expected from young players. He has not "arrived" like Kawhi did. Young players will be inconsistent (that was even a criticism of a guy of Kawhi's talent, infinitely more talented showing flashes but also inconsistent). He can't build up from successes he's had in some games, because his role changes from game to game, what they ask him to do changes from game to game. That is tough even for veterans (Tim has talked about it some on how its been for himself), for an undeveloped youngster like Kyle, frankly he's got a lot of BBIQ to be bumping in and out in spots and lineups doing different stuff at a young age. I think that is rather unusual.
All in all he still needs to be more assertive period!
Can't hit a three, can't post up, instead of trying to be that type of player so he could strach the floor and punish smaller players using his size he's playing exactly the opposite way of what his athletic ability allow him, no surprise he got his shoot block so much...
He needs to develop his three point game if he wants to stay in the League past a few years, in all honesty. And even then he has such a slow release that he could never really be a starting wing for a good team. In fact, I'd go as far as saying the decidedly limited production he gives us currently feels like he's already overachieving.
Agree with you completely. He was overmatched here, but since it was a scheduled loss anyways, a bit of chucking here or there wasn't a bad choice. Show more competitive spirit. Die trying. I get you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atl Spur
Why do people still bring up shit about Jimmer Fredette? That dude isn't an NBA level player, just a white guy who can lead his team to some pick up game wins at the rec.
Post after post after post bagging a bench player who outscored Danny Green by five points.
Kyle is now exactly at 10.0 points per36 :wow
Can he actually get below that? I've never seen that. The guy is just allergic to putting the ball in the basket. He's obviously a terrible defender who blames teammates for his lack of recovering on D, and he's a really bad passer... But damn, what exactly does this man do out there? :lol and where is this potential everyone sees? Lmfao
He would have faced the biggest humbling when he didnt go as high as he expected and ended up with the Spurs. And then getting the TP pop treatment for the first year would have shattered anything left.
He is doing it slow and steady.... He has the height and the BBIQ. And his physical peak is a few years away so there is still hope he will be a legit starter
I agree. When I learned that Manu had decided to play in Rio, that was the clincher for me. As for getting younger - How many years have fans and pundits alike been clamoring for that to happen? :lol We are Spurs; we get old. That's just what we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
To get back to Kyle: the contrast with Kawhi is illuminating. Pop initially played Kawhi for his defensive prowess - and utilized him on offense as a pure SF. Kawhi has developed his game year-by-year. In sharp contrast, Pop has played Kyle at literally all 5 positions in this, his first real season with the team. Unlike Kawhi, Kyle has not played consistently at one position. He has not had the relative luxury of learning one position and honing his skill in that singular position. Quite rightly, Pop sees Kyle as a Swiss army knife - much like Boris but with his own distinct skill set. For better or worse, Pop has chosen to attempt to open all of Kyle's blades all at once, rather than one at a time. This is a far different challenge than Kawhi faced. I admit that I lost track of Boris after his years in Phoenix; however, I don't believe he became the real Swiss Army knife he is at this point until he played for the Spurs. The presence of Boris and Manu has complicated Kyle's development. No doubt he has learned much from both, however their presence has meant that Kyle has had to play roles that are at present unnatural and uncomfortable, and in the future will not be very necessary. On almost any other team, a coach would have penciled him in as a SF and played him in that role. He might have developed skills pertinent to that position more quickly, but would probably never reach the potential he has with the Spurs.
Right now my only issue is he goes up softer then Splitter. I have lost track of how many times he has a clear path to the basket and he barely gets touched and falls in his ass. He has zero chance of making a basket if any body contact is involved.
Dude seriously needs to get on some type of growth hormone to at least start to get him bigger/stronger.
Kyle plays the same objectives from any position. If he's the point or the center, he still goes to the wing on offense to draw out the big. Defense is defense, it doesn't change.
Position has nothing to do with Kyle's bad performances and he is two years in now.
Cut the cord people.
With a fully healthy squad, I don't see him getting many minutes if any in the POs. He's a defensive liability.
Can we stop comparing KA to Diaw for starters? Diaw does sh** in the low post and is comfortable taking some threes to say nothing of his superior passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Kyle isn't comfortable posting up smaller guys, sometimes he can't even back up midgets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurtacular
I've yet to see him be above average in anything.
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Originally Posted by Atl Spur
KA's going to be a great player. I do agree that he needs a post up game and more strength and a better outside shot but right now hes not forcing things. He is playing on, record wise, one of the best teams in history, why would he force things?
I'm high on him
The up and down on these boards about players is hilarious. Its like everyone has PMS
Everyone thinks he is garbage except sagirl sasaint and maybe 2 more faggots. Low IQ posters spinning the wheels tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by skulls138
Curry started off the same way. It takes time. He's light skinned with a non-intimidating hairstyle so I think he'll do fine.
Very ignorant post as what you do fir each position is very different specially the 3 and the 4. He's not ever been a spot up shooter. It's something that he needs to improve in but he was drafted for other skills. If you wanted a pure shooter or defender you draft someone else. He was by far the best passer of his draft class and that US why we got him. Him spotting up off the ball so much is a reality and necessity of this current ream but it won't always be the case. Meantime he has had time to fill up holes in his game b4 he's ready to do more, but he's not meant to be spotting up from 3 anymore than Boris does in the team, who maybe launches 1-2 threes per game if that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mnky