Who does he thinks he is? Too much babysitting professional athletes, tbh... "But, but, Kawhi has a bubu :cry, he gonna miss the next 3 games"...
Hope we can get Kerr once he's done with Golden State, tbh... he's not afraid to go for 70+...
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Who does he thinks he is? Too much babysitting professional athletes, tbh... "But, but, Kawhi has a bubu :cry, he gonna miss the next 3 games"...
Hope we can get Kerr once he's done with Golden State, tbh... he's not afraid to go for 70+...
:pop: "Matty go out there in the second half and space the floor"
You know who can coach Simmons and Anderson to a title? Becky obv. If pop is gonna insist on gignato head then we know who must be promoted.
You think the Spurs would have beaten GS 2x more PLUS having GS drop another game while Spurs holding serve the whole way? If not, then no reason to try at this point.
to be fair, you can;t space the floor without a threat at the rim......Matty is in shape but TOSB Duncan can't stay on the floor, and you want to blame the rocket? Hell no.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
I'd fire him just for the fact Bonner is still on the team tbh.
It's not about the regular season championship, it's about giving the fans what they want, tbh... You wanna rest the big 3? fine, then at least play LMA/Kawhi... flat out quitting games is retarded, tbh... who's he kidding?Quote:
Originally Posted by cjw
He couldn't pull this shit coaching anywhere else without the kind of job security he has...
Not to mention potential last season for legends like Tim and Manu, who are already severely restricted minutes-wise... now they're going to be resting 2 games in a row? not even a back to back? Come on!.
Fuck off and shave that ridiculous beard, smh...
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Originally Posted by ElNono
Yeah you're right..except he is who he is and he's the only coach who has rotation players over the age of 35+.
Have feeling he is going to adversely fuck us with the rest shtick resulting in another 2014 Mavericks series..After that 5-game home-stand we built a good playoff-like intensity that he is deflating with mass-DNP bullshit..Manu/Tim were rounding into form and and now he slap them with 5 days rest and maybe more..
I just hope this DNP crap doesn't fuck with LMA's rhythm...
:cry b..b..b..but develop Kyle/Simmons :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Nono be trollin'
It is not like Kawhi/LMA are averaging 35/36 MPG ffs...both are under 33 MPG with already 5 games of rest under their belt..
:cry they need rest so they're fresh for Team USA in Brazil :cryQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
Ninehead was actually decent in the first quarter... When he was giving Boban the ballQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
This shit it dumb but so was starting Bonner 2nd half instead of Boban.
The OP needs to run on wood for 82 games... and then more.
Take a bat to Nono's shins.
staying healthy and injury free is the main focus now ... Think big picture my good sir ElNono you know better specially since it was Manu who got injured in that last reg season game ....Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
The game began to swing into OKC's hands when Matt Bonner entered the game. Unfortunately, the game would have been closer had the Spurs used a 3-Big rotation (Boban, Boris and David). Time has moved on and skills have diminished. Against Spurstalk players, Matt would dominate but against the Thunder, he sank the Spurs to the bottom of the lake.
Just an official excuse that looks better on the ledger than DNP RestQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
You really have a problem with Kawhi sitting out a meaningless game?
I can't tell if this was suppose to be written in blue font or not but I actually agree 100% with a Nono post :wow There's actually no statistical significance to regular season minute management which Pop does regularly versus resting players for an entire game. Players will be fresh and ready for the playoffs. It also accomplishes nothing because players who need development don't develop playing with peers that are their equal or arguably worse than they are. It's just a wasted opportunity.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I don't really give a shit about what the fans want to see though. The Spurs are not a well oiled machine on offense and they could use this time against stiffer competition (win or lose) to round into form for the playoffs. With that said, I'm sure the Spurs will be full strength against the Pelicans. :lol Dat historic PD is in jeopardy.
Funny thread Nono. I get your sense of humor now. :flag:
Frankly I had a couple beers and I am chuckling at the meltdowns too. :bobo
Our guys are so old, they'll probably just as likely to get injured stepping down from their Porsches, tbh... I mean, a month off because you got kneed in the nuts? Freak shit happens, all this resting is beard man getting too cute for his own good...
That's what I'm saying, this is Pop outsmarting himself... so he meticulously rests Manu, restricts his minutes, then he gets hurt in the last fucking game of the regular season (ofcourse he plays him)... he's no Nonostradamus, injuries happen, and he needs to stop trying to be cute out there with this shit... injuries are not really under his control... rest is, up to an extent...Quote:
Originally Posted by KenziE
It's also clear the change of ownership isn't going to change this shit, tbh...
It's ok to manage minutes and rest guys, but at least try to put a competitive team out there, don't rest everybody with an ounce of talent and forfeit the game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
That's sort of the point though. If you're going to manage players minutes throughout the course of the season, you don't need to rest them for full games. Even if you do choose to sit them for a game or two, you don't have to sit them all in the same game,Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I don't know Leonard's status but, if Pop was intent on sitting the big three while giving Leonard another couple of days to recover, then playing LMA is just a waste of time.
If Kawhi is on another team with a different coach, he plays tonight. I have zero doubts about that. But Popazit knows better...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Pop's so lucky. He's a worse coattailer than PJ.
The fans want the team healthy and ready for the playoffs. Someone gonna cry because the Spurs care about winning it all versus playing certain guys because some dickhole in the stands paid money to see them?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Fuck all that noise.
Exactly, it isn't about the regular season and we as fans should realize this by now (if this isn't a trolling thread or sarcasm). This has been Pop's m.o. since at least 2011, so get with the program or root for another team.Quote:
Originally Posted by 703 Spurz
His 5 NBA titles and countless other accolades give him carte blanch. To be totally honest I'm okay with that as long as Duncan, Ginobili and Parker are around.
:lol Some good points.
There was really little to be gained from this, but it was a scheduled loss anyways, so why bother.
This is the thought that entered Pop's mind and I am going to roast my own guy here:
"Wow the game I have to play Kyle against Kevin Durant for a full 30 something minutes is the game I cannot win no matter what so WTF. F*ck this! I am going to really scrub it up big time and not show any schemes or anything. Lets bring Bonner out too!"
:pop:
:rollin
Let's see if our shooters got anything: Danny? Martin? You got anything? no? Damn.
Let's see if Boris gets off his lazy bum? Boris.. still coastorama mode? Damn.
Simmons you ready to go? Juice it up... Damn Juice I might need. hmmmm
Captain D.West? You got it going on but damn that PnR D, damn that rebounding though.
Boban? WTH you doing? Where is the rebounding Boban? Are you boxing out Boban? Damn Boban go into the corner, I am starting the 3rd with Bonner! Damn.
Patty? 0 assists in over 30 minutes? Damn Patty you are reaching some CoJo levels there with that stuff. Oh you mean no one had it going and you couldn't make passes to set up Boban? What are you saying, you are no PG? ah well hell! Damn!
:lmao
On another note, you do learn about the character of young players from this one, but that is not worth throwing a game over and it does break their spirit a little bit.
ooooo wait! What are you saying Pop you wanted the youngsters to feel like they are in the 76ers? Oh well Damn Pop!
---> By the way, I liked A. Miller. Too bad he's 40 yrs. old. Damn!
What has Pop achieved from resting a guy like Danny Green against Memphis or Sacto? Dude still ICY and rythmless AF..I honestly think the "rest" thing has become a sort of vanity shtick for Pop...
wahahaha somebody had too much coronaQuote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
happy easter ya'll
I get it but i still can't stand the outright surrender of the 1st seed
It just sticks in my craw
so fuck you pop
fuck you
you better hold serve at home you arrogant sob
It's simple locker room politics. Green is considered part of the inner circle right now. When he took below market value, it's understood he receives some minor "perks" and a slightly inflated respect value from the organization. Not that Pop plays favorites, it's just how he tends to go about things. I wouldn't be surprised if he had made this decision concerning Danny back in August :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
Step away from that pipe sir! :wow
This x1000, the big picture is what matters. El Nono wants pop to be like former coach thibs that runs his players into the ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by 703 Spurz
Hey Nono remember that time ginobili got hurt in the last game of the season which was a meaningless game for the Spurs? But hey at least the fans got their money's worth
Do people not see the sarcasm guys? :lol
OP. :tu :lol
Resting has more to do with mental fatigue...
Fire him, tbh
:lol Apparently not! EN :stirpot:......Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
It took the Spurs until March 26th to lose a game on the second night of a back-to-back...
That is pretty damn impressive.
That's not what he said at all. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by marinoman
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Originally Posted by ElNono
How is Pop suppose to prevent injuries, Wrap them in bubble wrap and sit them on the end of the bench until the playoffs arrive? Sure, he can rest them a game here and there but that doesn't mean when they come back, they're immune from injuries. There's still 10 games left in the regular season, not one or two. Too much rest can also have a negative impact on players especially when they're playing well. It can throw off their rhythm and timing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I bet Kawhi and LMA could've played. Hope they play against the Grizzlies. I can understand Pop taking his foot off the gas since the 1 seed is pretty much locked up. Curry and co. are going for 73 wins and they are almost there, let them get tired and fatigued reaching for that milestone. Spurs need a full healthy roster when the playoffs start.
I think the white flag was waived to early. I Hate these intentional l's.
Nono's posts should have permanent blue font :lol
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Originally Posted by spurs10
:lol
ElNono threads always deliver.
Nono anticipated your existence. But, I agree with you, too. I think pitchers should pitch on less than three days rest because there is no benefit to the human body from rest. No statistically significant evidence shows that rest is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Just a fat guy saying fat guy things... Jesus fucking Popsicle !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
i don't care about him resting Duncan or Manu on a back to back, but resting Green, Mills or Aldridge is retarded.
In January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Holy shit! Nono? I thought you were trolling at first. Did you put your glass down at the rave, and then drink out of it?
As long as he keeps starting Boban I'm good with whatever he does
Tim does look done. It's pretty sad to see him sitting on the floor while some scrub we rejected steals his cookie and dunks it at the other end. I wonder if Tim considers this season to be "wheels off".
El using outriggers to catch them two at a time.
I look back at the year we lost to Memphis in the 1st rd Pop rested Manu in game 81 but then played him in a meanless game 82 against the Suns and he blew out his arm like in the first two minutes and Manu was our best player that year,I sometimes think pop overthinks this shit and he's already messing with the chemistry by trying to force feed KMart into the system
Start of the year....starting line up sucks but bench is good...
Pop IDs culprit as Danny green....known party boi. Solution trade bench guy for shooter and pass first pg.
Now starters good, but Danny green still bad. Bench bad. It's like wack a mole.
Too late up fix bench. Just have to hope Manu and Boris bring it.
Probably too late to integrate Martin in while also not wrecking party boy's confidence.
It's looking like the buyouts + ginos surgery were too much stress on the bench. Not enough talent and leadership on the team anymore with Manu one foot in the grave.
Thibs says hello
When you quote a member of the crew you must remember to hedge your bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurs10
Post something that can be taken one of only two ways and you give yourself and out.
That is of course known as, chicken shit.
You are welcome.
The bottom line is that too many teams make the playoffs and there are too many games.
The resting would be much less rampant if regular season games were more meaningful. The goal of the organization most of us root for on this site is to put ourselves in position to win an NBA championship. Pop is sold that this is the way to do it.
And we can all nit pick his actions in this area. Like we know the team better than a guy who sees them almost everyday, on and off the court. Bashing a guy who has created a championship with a defensive monster, a team dominated by post play, a well rounded team, a team that played the most beautiful passing basketball of all time, a team that currently utilizes a star from a completely different system and has a chance to eclipse the others?... Sure, he's an idiot unwilling to change his ways. Just a pig headed guy who can't adapt...
:lol I wasn't drunk last night, and yeah, there's some subtle trolling here or there ITT...
probably the fact that Bonner played for more than 10 mins triggered some long forgotten anxiety rush, violent reactions... apologies, tbh
I'm all for rest as long as it doesn't jeopardize the chance to go 41-0 at home.
That's some history making stuff and I don't want Golden State to have it for themselves.
But at some point, there should be discussions about this stuff, IMO. It's not the same to rest your top 2-3 guys vs outright resting your top 5 guys to what basically amounts forfeiting the game...
And it should be discussed and analyzed both in the context of the diminished value of entertainment and whether the scientific value of that kind of "complete games" of rest.
Then again, Pop might be done soon anyways, and I don't really see many coaches having his job's security to pull it off elsewhere, so it might be a non-issue...
Nono just wants LMA and Kawhi to get injured, so Manu can shine tbh.
In the interviews quoted with Pop he makes the claim he learned a whole lot about his bench AND about OKC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
In my readings of his quotes he put a team on the floor to test certain aspects of our guys games, but more importantly OKC. Paraphrase: The guys were asked to play the way we wanted them to play this team and we learned a whole lot. Very happy for the effort and the sacrifice. This OKC team is very explosive. We learn when we win and lose.
So sort of an apology with the claim of a bigger picture involved. May be caca but I enjoyed the watch. For those who bought tickets in OKC hoping to see our best put on the floor, recognize that in this form of entertainment the lead actors may have to sit out a few performances. There is a suggestion box in the NBA office. Check the "play fewer regular season games and cut the number of teams making the playoffs in half" box. Good luck.
He got fined a boat-load of money last time. I wonder if they'll do it again. Leaving LMA home had no rhyme or reason and the game was a forfeit. I've decided to sell my tickets to our last home game because I don't want to spend a few hundred bucks watching Mattie duking it out with Kevin Durant.
It's all about winning the championship. If GS ends the season with the best record and we win the championship, I will take that every time .
We are not going to catch GS and no one is going to catch us ,so we will be the number 2 seed. no need to go all out and risk Kawhi aggravating his injury or tire out the older guys.
That's why it's important to beat the teams you know you can beat ( Charlotte ) and be able to sacrafice OKC. for rest.
ESPN announced the day before that we were going to sit everyone so OKC is like" Damn, SA don't even sweat us "
Pop knows how to screw with people.
I don't understand the Aldridge DNP and playing Diaw who's older.
Maybe Diaw is scheduled for rest soon
All in all we are having a great season. What would be said if players started to get hurt, break down or wear out because we played them against OKC chasing Westbrook around.
That doesn't explain why you'd need to rest the big three for Monday's game in Memphis.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSpur
This type of thing has always been Pop's way of fucking with the media and the NBA. He also always has some legitimate reason however he's undoubtedly getting his own agenda fulfilled since he has the leeway to do so. Pop is a real prick. I'm sure he's a nice guy IRL, but he seems to hate the NBA and the media. Odd he's made a fortune working for both.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Pop has tenure you stupid fuck. He can do whatever he wants faggot. :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by DMC
That's what "leeway" means you stupid piece of 3rd world shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by dabom
Pop should rest Duncan, Manu, Tony, Kawhi, and Aldridge for the rest of the regular season, leave us at 61-21 then blast through the playoffs.
I don't think going into the playoffs on a 9 game losing streak is in Pop's itinerary.
All that matters right now is getting to the playoffs healthy, GS is starting to slow down a bit, should they meet in the WCF, SA will most likely be the fresher team, could be the deciding factor. Won't be shocked if GS gets another injury to one of their key players soon.
Needs to get over himself, tbh... at the end of the day he's fucking with the fans...Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Exactly, during a meaningless game and going for a unnecessary steal. Injuries are unpredictable, but I appreciate Pop trying to keep guys "fresh" and rested for the games that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinoman
And people believing the Spurs were going to make up ground and pass Golden State are either dumb or naive. Yes, the Spurs were going to go undefeated to end the season - cause they pulled that off last season when it was more vital for seeding, right (?) - and all of sudden the best team was going to lose 4 or 5 games down the stretch run. Pfffft
No coach is perfect and I highly doubt the Spurs would have many fans with a lesser coach. The problem with being a genius at something is that you are inept at something else most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Even if they did, ok so you get one more game at home instead of on the road. When has that mattered? If anything you'd get an easier path to the WCF, but the Mavs owe GS an upset. I'd like to see them pay it off this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Paco
That is a winnable game without them. Other than Manu, Tony and Timmy could definitely use the extra days off. I think Manu should play to get over whatever remaining rust he has but Martin, Simmons and Anderson need the reps. Like it or not, one of them will have play in the playoffs. I'm not sold on either Martin or Anderson as the 4th wing, but Simmons is too inexperienced and erratic to play meaningful minutes in the postseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
Açepted tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
I agree with you. It was an interesting game regardless. IMO if we had another big but Bonner it wouldn't have been a blowout. It was a loss anyways, but the game got away from us when Bonner got in at the end of the 2nd Q, start of the 3rd. His lack of defense, rebounding, boxing out and in general contributing anything positive was a downfall but that is nothing new.Quote:
Originally Posted by pgardn
The new guys were Anderson, Boban, Simmons and Martin and Pop learned from each and the first 3 rarely compete against elite teams like this. The fact they didn't hang with them is no surprise but you hope they can build up from success or failure. They don't get chances like this regularly.
I though if Boban had a good game we would have a chance to make it a game and I stated that hours b4 the game. He didn't. Adams played him defensively better than any big he's seen in the league. He's strong enough to not be backed down by Boban, boxed Boban out of the way, didn't let him get good post position for high low passes, etc. Made Boban look human, not like the demigod he's in garbage time. You don't learn that if you are just playing Boban in garbage time and how much is Boban worth to us next season$$? Can't tell if you don't put him in this kind of position. It's possible Pop learned a lot about Boban from this one.
There were things to be learned about the wings too. Obviously Simmons and Anderson being the newbies they are and Anderson being a youngster still developing his game, any opportunities you can give them against really good competition they can benefit from anyways, on both ends, and they still have a lot of chemistry together. Whether that is bc their games complement each other well, they are comfortable playing with each other having developed together or what? I don't know. That is how young cores develop everywhere else in the league. They go through struggles together, work behind close doors, get better. They just did that in the dleague, SL and staggered this season, not night in and night out like other teams, not even like Danny and Kawhi did. Given that, they still play well together. They look for each other in games and we really haven't seen them together much. They have been split up most of the time. Either one or the other is in the game etc. That maybe is not of much use to us to know right now, but it is for Pop this off-season, when he has to restructure the bench.
Pop can consider things like whether he needs a veteran wing next season if Manu retires, or if he can trust in the continued improvement of these two. I think in their case, the whole package of the two of them together is better than the individual parts. They were much more tame when they were split up, maybe lack of chemistry with others, but I think not. They fit together in their own way.
Is Martin a fit for the team long term if we don't get Manu back? I though possibly previously, but after this game, maybe not. He's not a better fit next to either Simmons or Anderson than these two are together and with possibly Bertans coming over as a designated shooter we probably don't need his skills next season.
It was an I interesting game from that point of view. Pop learned from OKC, but also from his guys.
Chuck Miketinac
MAXSportsSA
Kawhi Leonard is questionable for tomorrow's Spurs-Grizzlies game. Tim Duncan (rest), Manu Ginobili (rest) and Tony Parker (rest) ARE OUT.
obv pop dont give no fucks.....
Wonder if Bonner is available? :rolleyes when is he getting rest?Quote:
Originally Posted by ace3g
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Originally Posted by ElNono
Okay, I'm back through the looking glass. :lol I was actually dreading reading through the rest of this thread. Thought maybe you'd gone full-on dark side.
That game was seriously hard to watch - no fun to watch. It's the convergence of competition and entertainment. I don't know if resting all those guys at the same time helps, or is part of some mental strategy. But I believe that Pop thinks so. But at the same time, we all buy tickets or tune in for a reason, and that wasn't it. So maybe he's making the team more competitive for the playoffs, but he definitely took away any entertainment value.
About 5 minutes into the second half, I just turned it off - so it's an 81-game season. If I had watched the whole thing, maybe I'd have snapped too.
At least maybe it put to rest the idea that Boban could be competitive against starter-quality bigs.
Bonner's been resting the entire season. Did you mean Kyle Anderson?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Said this before long ago, I don't like the resting thing. Limit minutes, but sitting out multiple games kills team rhythm. A random game throughout the season here or there is fine (I still don't even like that), but this sitting half the team down is stupid. For young guys, its not necessary. it's something that should be reserved only for guys 35 and older.
It's Pop's I'm smarter than you I micro manage everything on this team I haven't gotten over myself...self. That's why he's an ass to local reporters so he doesn't have to answer for anything.
Bonner plays too much alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar
LOL... pretty sure he meant that 12 minutes of Bonner is too much for one season. He needs some rest.
Damn Kerr not resting anyone vs Philly at home :lmao...going at dat point differential championship :cry
the worst thing you do to a defense-first team is to relax their asses at this point of the year..The intensity, effort, and attention to details has to be at near peak levels going to post-season..I'm OK with no- B2B rule for guys like TD/TP/Manu for the rest of season, but niggas who are going to be logging major minutes like Green/Aldridge/Kawhi has be kept sharp and engaged..
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Originally Posted by spursistan
I wonder. In the entire world, how many people really know what it takes to coach a defense-first NBA team? The odds against having one of them right here seem astronomical.
The next 9 games which have absolutely no meaning should be interesting...
:reading
As I said weeks ago, I always have the opinion that everyone should play if they're not legitimately injured, but limit their minutes instead of outright sitting them if they need rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElNono
Special circumstances like Tim and Manu due to their age and mileage, I'm OK with them getting full games off. Younger players like Parker and Boris, well, I don't think I can support resting them if they're playing for their national teams and are too tired. That's on them IMO. Get in better shape, or don't play for your national teams. It's that simple. You're getting paid a shitload to perform for your team. Personally, I would probably put my NBA team ahead of my national team if I felt like it would drop my performance too much during the NBA season.
Ever since I read that Tim Grover article month or so ago, it's made me stick to my stance even more. That was always my stance to begin with - Limit minutes during games. Young players shouldn't be getting rested much at all, because how will they ever learn to mentally push through fatigue and still perform if they're always getting rested?
It's bout about rest. It's about travel. No body likes flying. Jeez.