ESPN article: Should Warriors or Spurs be No. 1 in NBA power rankings?

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

-'93 Suns won 62 & were prohibitive underdogs against the 57 win Bulls

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Suns were the favorites. They blew it.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

-'00 Lakers almost blew a 3-1 lead in the WCF after winning 67 games

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Blazers blew it; they were the better team. Big time choke.

Golden State is still the best team I have ever seen, so yeah, they should be #1.

Warriors are the best team 'cause they have the best record in top of being the reigning NBA champs. Untill somebody knocks them off they are number one.

But some of the points he makes in the article aren't relevant at all. Mainly the record against top teams (see Spurs 2014 run), and the "clutch" stats (it's been proven over time that close game records eventually even out).

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Golden State is still the best team I have ever seen, so yeah, they should be #1.

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I don't think they are the best team I have ever seen, Curry is hitting some unbelievable shots this season, they are playing well. Some of the wins have been really close and it's because they bailed themselves out with 3's. They will more than likely beat the Bulls 72-10 record, but imo they are not the best team I have ever seen. It's the 72-10 1996 Bulls imo, not because I am a homer but because they just were that dominant. The Warriors strike me as a team that is on a roll hitting a bunch of crazy 3's to seal the deal. So even if they best the Bulls 72-10 mark, that is still the best team I have ever seen imo, not the 2016 Warriors.

The Warriors also can be beat in the playoffs, all it will take is some of those 3's not falling, Spurs have a chance to dethrone them.

It won't be easy but having that belif is the biggest part we saw them rattled in SA. Even in the finals last season no way it should've been as close as it was. You fight back don't play scared and the pussy in the warriors will come out.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Blazers blew it; they were the better team. Big time choke.

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I will never belive this game wasn't rigged.

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Originally Posted by Horse

I will never belive this game wasn't rigged.

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NBA cheated hardcore for the Lakers in that era. I don't remember how bad the cheating was for that particular game.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

-'09 Cavs would have been prohibitive underdogs against the Lakers after winning 66 games (the Lakers owned them in the regular season)

-'96 Sonics won 64 & were a HUGE underdogs against the 72 win Bulls
-'97 Jazz won 64 & were prohibitive underdogs against 69 win Bulls
-'93 Suns won 62 & were prohibitive underdogs against the 57 win Bulls

-'00 Lakers almost blew a 3-1 lead in the WCF after winning 67 games
-'13 Heat were a defensive rebound away from losing in the Finals after winning 66 games
-'07 Mavs lost to a team that had their number after winning 67 games
-'13 Pistons lost to the Heat in the ECF after winning 64 games

-You had the 63 win Spurs losing a Gm 7 at home to the 60 win Mavs, which is the closest thing to the Spurs/Worriers (Kings/Lakers doesn't qualify b/c the Kings were a bunch of chokers & the Lakers were the defending champs)

Last year's Worriers would have been underdogs against a healthy Cavs team & actually were after Gm 2.:lol

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Originally Posted by Chillen

I don't think they are the best team I have ever seen, Curry is hitting some unbelievable shots this season, they are playing well. Some of the wins have been really close and it's because they bailed themselves out with 3's. They will more than likely beat the Bulls 72-10 record, but imo they are not the best team I have ever seen. It's the 72-10 1996 Bulls imo, not because I am a homer but because they just were that dominant. The Warriors strike me as a team that is on a roll hitting a bunch of crazy 3's to seal the deal. So even if they best the Bulls 72-10 mark, that is still the best team I have ever seen imo, not the 2016 Warriors.

The Warriors also can be beat in the playoffs, all it will take is some of those 3's not falling, Spurs have a chance to dethrone them.

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I don't even think 96 was the best Bulls team. I'll take 92 or even 91 over them for Jordan's physical prime as well as having Horace Grant and Bill Cartwright in the frontcourt.

The Warriors control their own fate. If they push past the 72 win Bulls team and win the chip they will be widely considered the best team ever. If they achieve the regular season record and lose in the playoffs they will be remembered a lot like the 2007 Patriots. The only thing that matters for the Spurs is that they are going to be the road team in a series against Golden State.

I want the media to give the Spurs no chance and favor the Warriors. The Warriors are mentally weaker than the Spurs and read sports coverage too much. The more writers try and make them an underdog the more the Warriors are going to use it as bulletin board material. It'll be interesting to see Golden State behind 3-2 in a series. Golden State hasn't faced adversity yet, which is the most amazing part of their run.

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Originally Posted by DAF86

But some of the points he makes in the article aren't relevant at all. Mainly the record against top teams (see Spurs 2014 run), and the "clutch" stats (it's been proven over time that close game records eventually even out).

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Little do those mental midgets at BSPN know that the '07 Mavs had an excellent record against top teams (50+ win teams; lost 3 to the "We Believe" Worriers) & probably the GOAT "clutch" stat during the regular season.:lol

The Worriers haven't even been the best team in the league since the ASG break (Spurs have been better & Hornets have been just as good) & their point differential has been pedestrian against top teams.

Worriers blew out the Spurs w/o Timmay & an overrated Cavs squad (otherwise lost to the Spurs & barely beat the Cavs on Christmas) but the Cripples/OKC had leads in 4th quarter both at home & on the road. They also couldn't blowout the Cripples TWICE w/o Blake. The only other elite team in the Leastern conference is the Raptors who lost both games during crunch time. The Heat also lost one game on a broken play & were competitive at the Oracle until midway through the 4th at the Oracle.

Basically, the Worriers padded their point differential against elite teams in the two fluky games against the Spurs/Cavs otherwise they having pulling games out of their ass like the '07 Mavs.:lol

The Worriers also had a couple of blowout wins against the Grizz, I'm assuming BSPN is chalking that up as an "elite" win.:lmao

The Worriers/Cripples rivalry reminds me of the Knicks/Bulls; the Cripples will lose/choke but they are going to make the Worriers work for it.

-Rd 2 previews for the Worriers/Cripples:



The Worriers/Spurs match-up also reminds me of the Spurs/Suns 2007 series when the Suns, led by their 2 time MVP point-god, were favored to win despite the Spurs having the best record in the league after the ASG break:

-WCF preview for Worriers/Spurs:

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

No matter what the article, there's always a spurs talker complaining that it's "nothing we don't already know." :rolleyes

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a) I'm not complaining
b) There are countless threads addressing both these issues

There's no pride in knowing more about what's right and wrong with the team we support than a random ESPN writer...

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Originally Posted by mudyez

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'06 Pistons

All I got to say is for the Spurs to win the chip Kawhi and LMA have to play like superstars, everyone else on this team is a role player. Like Coach Bill belichick always says just do your job. Everyone on this team not named Kawhi and LMA just need to do their job. That means don't try to be the hero (yes I'm talking to u Parker) and don't over do it. But they all say role players are just good at home and bad on the road, but for our role players it's different then any other role players in NBA history. Our role players were finals MVP,reg MVP and 6th man. So our role players are battle tested and been through the ringer. Just feed Kawhi and LMA the ball and do your role.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Golden State is still the best team I have ever seen

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995%E...o_Bulls_season

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Originally Posted by phxspurfan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995%E...o_Bulls_season

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86 Celtics are probably the second best team I have seen. I'd take the 92 Bulls as the third best.

Warriors should be #1 because Spurs have dropped some games recently.

Being #2 doesn't mean you can't beat #1. Just means #1 is better at this moment which is the case. Spurs can obv beat the Warriors.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Basically, the Worriers padded their point differential against elite teams in the two fluky games against the Spurs/Cavs otherwise they having pulling games out of their ass like the '07 Mavs.:lol

The Worriers also had a couple of blowout wins against the Grizz, I'm assuming BSPN is chalking that up as an "elite" win.:lmao

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Why don't you start reeling off the Spurs Elite wins...

The article title is pretty deceptive and irritating though. Judging by the title you might expect an argument for why the Spurs should get some props too so hey it might be worth reading, a different take for once. . .but it's just another Warriors cock sucking article like everything else on there.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

Why don't you start reeling off the Spurs Elite wins...

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We could start from the Wardell 1-12 game.:wakeup

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Originally Posted by Kidd K

The article title is pretty deceptive and irritating though. Judging by the title you might expect an argument for why the Spurs should get some props too so hey it might be worth reading, a different take for once. . .but it's just another Warriors cock sucking article like everything else on there.

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Followed by the usual Warriors cock sucking from the closet Warriors fans on this board.


I love how the Spurs pedigree never matters, how the excuses/reasons that every other team that's integrating a significant player(s) gets, don't matter (most of the losses to elite teams were before Aldridge was playing at this level) and how all of a sudden, point differential is secondary to record against elite teams and in depth garbage time analysis.

Dubs are still better until we beat them a second time or go up on them in the WCF.

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Originally Posted by TD 21

Followed by the usual Warriors cock sucking from the closet Warriors fans on this board.


I love how the Spurs pedigree never matters, how the excuses/reasons that every other team that's integrating a significant player(s) gets, don't matter (most of the losses to elite teams were before Aldridge was playing at this level) and how all of a sudden, point differential is secondary to record against elite teams and in depth garbage time analysis.

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You mean Laker fans that are compensating for having a 15 win "primary" team?

Anyone watching wiz/dubs?