Re: Which Advanced Stat is the Best/Worst to analyze player value?
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GSH
:tu Excellent example. Advanced metrics can't be used in a vacuum.
BTW and on a side note, you can see that those advanced metrics are more stable for bigs than for guards... Take for instance Shaq his advanced fluctuate a bit but were quite stable during his prime. Bigs production are less dependant of the system or the team they play tbh... Rebounds are a big part of numerous metrics, you can see that per 100 poss a common advanced metrics adjust the rebound numbers are very stable during a big career... Rodman who reached his prime quite late after 30 y/o piled up from 24 to 22 rpg per 100 since 91 till the end of his career. Now take a guard known for being an elite rebounder like J Kidd (6 rpg career), per 100 his numbers fluctuate from 8 to 12 ! which is quite significant, obviously his production in this category is highly dependant of the team and the roster.
Re: Which Advanced Stat is the Best/Worst to analyze player value?
1) Plus-minus isn't an advanced stat.
2) The issue I have with advanced stats is that people treat them like they're objective, when they're actually mathematical opinions.
Re: Which Advanced Stat is the Best/Worst to analyze player value?
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Originally Posted by
Chinook
1) Plus-minus isn't an advanced stat.
2) The issue I have with advanced stats is that people treat them like they're objective, when they're actually mathematical opinions.
That is the best description I've seen of advanced statistics.
Re: Which Advanced Stat is the Best/Worst to analyze player value?
I look at them all. Frankly they usually will coincide by a matter of degrees, I suppose depending on their formula. But you have to put them in context. Guys roles, do they play against benches or starters, do they get hidden on defense, assigned to non threats, do they play mostly garbage time putting up gaudy numbers like Bonner--making one or two threes in a couple of minutes of garbage time does not mean you are our best offensive player, etc.
If you don't put a context behind those stats they can be very misleading. However, if you put them in their proper context they will be useful.
