SAN ANTONIO - The Bexar County Sheriff's Office is reporting at least two people are dead in a shooting at Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland Air Force Base.
The Bexar County Sheriff's Office is reporting that the gunman is still active and the base is presently on lockdown.
The incident occurred around 8:45 a.m.
KSAT 12 has also learned Valley High Elementary School of the Northside Independent School District, located in the 8500 block of Ray Ellison Boulevard, is on lockdown as well.
KSAT 12 has a crew headed to the scene and will have more information on this story as it develops.
Need our local terrorism arbiters spurraider and TSA on hand to determine if this is terror.
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Hopefully the kids at the elementary school are carrying
04-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
American as (GMO) apple pie and (in vitro) motherhood
yawn
04-08-2016
Pelicans78
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Either a Muslim terrorist, black thug, or mentally disturbed white guy illegally carrying guns.
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Fucking gun-free zones. People are sitting ducks.
04-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
Hopefully the kids at the elementary school are carrying
... and ALL the staff, "hopefully"
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Hmmm, murder-suicide. If he was wearing a vest then terrorism. Using a gun then crazy guy.
04-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
SA's having a great week in national news. Police brutality and mass shootings!
Keith said police did not have any information about any possible motive or a relationship between the two people who were killed. Another law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity said that the incident appears to have emanated from a dispute.
Phew, so relieved it wasn't serious.
04-08-2016
pgardn
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
SA's having a great week in national news. Police brutality and mass shootings!
"Mass" shootings... ,!!!!
Boots, you got a real problem involving running off with the playground ball.
04-08-2016
I. Hustle
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
Hopefully the kids at the elementary school are carrying
Hahaha that's hilarious.
Potential violence towards children is too damn funny. Good one, Blake.
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by I. Hustle
Hahaha that's hilarious.
Potential violence towards children is too damn funny. Good one, Blake.
You do realize that "more guns in schools" was the NRA Sandy Hook response, right?
04-08-2016
I. Hustle
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Splits
You do realize that "more guns in schools" was the NRA Sandy Hook response, right?
Was it really? That's weird that they would want elementary school kids packing. I mean, since that's what Blake said and that's what I was commenting on. Did I read it incorrectly?
I am not saying that I am for more guns in school or for ANY guns in school. I just don't think it's funny that, even though nothing happened, there was potential threat towards elementary school children.
04-08-2016
spurraider21
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
if he's white it's domestic terrorism
if he's not white then he isn't representative of [insert minority group]
04-08-2016
Pelicans78
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Splits
You do realize that "more guns in schools" was the NRA Sandy Hook response, right?
It wasn't children carrying guns. They meant security personnel.
04-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Pelicans78
It wasn't children carrying guns. They meant security personnel.
no, BigGun, the NRA and their gun fellatin wingnuts want guns for teachers and staff, and for all college students (eg, in TX).
04-08-2016
Spurminator
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by spurraider21
if he's not white then he isn't representative of [insert minority group]
Yeah lol, can you believe people say that?
04-08-2016
spurraider21
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Spurminator
Yeah lol, can you believe people say that?
i don't disagree with either statement. i just know different themes are going to be pushed based on the background of the shooter
Was it really? That's weird that they would want elementary school kids packing. I mean, since that's what Blake said and that's what I was commenting on. Did I read it incorrectly?
I am not saying that I am for more guns in school or for ANY guns in school. I just don't think it's funny that, even though nothing happened, there was potential threat towards elementary school children.
Nobody thinks the incident today was funny, genius.
04-08-2016
Spurminator
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by spurraider21
i don't disagree with either statement. i just know different themes are going to be pushed based on the background of the shooter
Sure, but it's not like they are equal. When the predictable types come out of the woodwork to celebrate the revealing that a shooter is black/Muslim/whatever and blaming entire ethnicities and religions on their actions, what you posted is what the response should be.
I see this image posted a lot. The "White America" article is about the double standard when it comes to asking black people to answer for black crime.
So while Salon does veer a little too heavily into SJW territory at times, these tweets aren't exactly contradictory.
That meme is basically like putting Bomani Jones' T-shirt next to an article on ESPN about why the Indians need to change their name, then calling them hypocrites.
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Pelicans78
It wasn't children carrying guns. They meant security personnel.
No, it was teachers, which I think is repulsive.
And you do have crazy pols that think kids packing is something to promote.
Meet Michelle Fiore, Nevada St rep running for congress:
Second from the right ain't bad from the neck down tho.
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
I'm OK with trained teachers packing.
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'm OK with trained teachers packing.
In what situation would they use the gun
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
In what situation would they use the gun
Sandy Hook certainly comes to mind.
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'm OK with trained teachers packing.
Yes, Molly, straight outta UofXXX should need to be a trained firearm professional to take down the shooter in the 1/20,000,000 chance her classroom gets hit up. I'm sure that will reduce kids getting gunned down.
Principal: Here Molly, put this Glock in your classroom safe and make sure to have it loaded without one in the chamber and with the lock enabled and also make sure none of your kids see the code. Your college did train you in gun safety right?
Molly: Umm, yes! Now I'm gonna teach these kids to read. Where is the safe and what is the code?
Fucking moron.
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Sandy Hook certainly comes to mind.
Yes. Put a gun in every one of America's 20,000,000 classrooms. What could go wrong?
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Splits
Yes. Put a gun in every one of America's 20,000,000 classrooms. What could go wrong?
who said every classroom, dumbfuck?
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'm OK with trained teachers packing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
who said every classroom, dumbfuck?
^This dumb fuck.
And this guy had a murder machine but didn't want to pull it because he knew LE was on the way and didn't want to get shot himself
:cry good guy with a gun :cry
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But at Umpqua Community College, we had an example of at least one "good guy with a gun" present on campus. John Parker Jr., a military veteran and UCC student, explains that while he ran toward the scene, pulling his gun could have resulted in even more deaths -- including his own
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
We get it puta.
guns are bad.
boohoo
04-08-2016
Splits
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Don't shoot your dick off!
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
Sandy Hook certainly comes to mind.
What are the odds of that happening in the average school? .000001% would be my approximate guess
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
What are the odds of that happening in the average school? .000001% would be my approximate guess
So why do anti gun advocates keep talking about Sandy Hook if it's so incredibly rare?
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
So why do anti gun advocates keep talking about Sandy Hook if it's so incredibly rare?
They're referencing the high capacity gun (s). He got off 154 shots in 5 minutes and it could easily have been more.
But hey, instead of getting rid of the high capacity gun, let's add more guns just in case something that has an incredibly small chance of happening actually happens.
04-08-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
They're referencing the high capacity gun (s). He got off 154 shots in 5 minutes and it could easily have been more.
But hey, instead of getting rid of the high capacity gun, let's add more guns just in case something that has an incredibly small chance of happening actually happens.
exactly
so why ban semi automatic weapons from all law abiding citizens on that incredibly small chance?
shit happens
bad people happen
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
exactly
so why ban semi automatic weapons from all law abiding citizens on that incredibly small chance?
shit happens
bad people happen
Because they kill a lot of people very quickly. In any number of different places.
But that's a different goalpost. Why add guns to classrooms? To protect against what exactly? A gunman with an incredibly low chance of ever showing up?
You're putting a loaded weapon in a confined room full of kids. That makes no sense for a lot of reasons.
04-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake
They're referencing the high capacity gun (s). He got off 154 shots in 5 minutes and it could easily have been more.
But hey, instead of getting rid of the high capacity gun, let's add more guns just in case something that has an incredibly small chance of happening actually happens.
30 round magazines are standard capacity FYI.
04-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
Because they kill a lot of people very quickly. In any number of different places.
But that's a different goalpost. Why add guns to classrooms? To protect against what exactly? A gunman with an incredibly low chance of ever showing up?
You're putting a loaded weapon in a confined room full of kids. That makes no sense for a lot of reasons.
Are you okay with an armed police officer on a campus full of kids?
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
30 round magazines are standard capacity FYI.
Standard for what?
04-08-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Are you okay with an armed police officer on a campus full of kids?
An armed peace officer patrolling the school, in and out whose sole purpose is security? Of course.
Much better than some on edge stressed out teacher
04-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
An armed peace officer patrolling the school, in and out whose sole purpose is security? Of course.
Much better than some on edge stressed out teacher
lol
04-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
Standard for what?
The capacity. Anything less is limited (20, 10, 5) anything more is high (50,100)
You linked to a .22 magazine at Cabelas. Lanza used an AR15 (.223/5.56) at Sandy Hook, standard capacity magazine for that is 30 rounds.
04-09-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
TSA is correct that the standard US military magazine is 30 rounds.
04-09-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
TSA is correct that the standard US military magazine is 30 rounds.
It's always hilarious when you butt in as an authority of some kind.
04-09-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
"....The term high capacity ammunition magazines (sometimes called large capacity magazines or high capacity ammunition feeding devices) generally refers to gun magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. But statutory definitions vary. A 1994 congressional ban on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition expired in 2004 and was not renewed. Consequently, high capacity ammunition magazines are legal unless banned by state or local governments. Connecticut does not regulate the magazines.
Six states and the District of Columbia (D.C.) currently ban or restrict large capacity magazines. Maryland defines a “large capacity magazine” as a magazine capable of accepting more than 20 rounds.*New Jersey defines it as one capable of accepting more than 15 rounds, and California, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, and D.C. define it as a magazine capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. (On January 15, 2013, the NY Legislature amended its law. Beginning March 16, the law defines high capacity magazines as magazines capable of firing more than seven rounds..........."
"....The term high capacity ammunition magazines (sometimes called large capacity magazines or high capacity ammunition feeding devices) generally refers to gun magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition. But statutory definitions vary. A 1994 congressional ban on magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition expired in 2004 and was not renewed. Consequently, high capacity ammunition magazines are legal unless banned by state or local governments. Connecticut does not regulate the magazines.
Six states and the District of Columbia (D.C.) currently ban or restrict large capacity magazines. Maryland defines a “large capacity magazine” as a magazine capable of accepting more than 20 rounds.*New Jersey defines it as one capable of accepting more than 15 rounds, and California, Hawaii, Massachusetts, New York, and D.C. define it as a magazine capable of accepting more than 10 rounds. (On January 15, 2013, the NY Legislature amended its law. Beginning March 16, the law defines high capacity magazines as magazines capable of firing more than seven rounds..........."
What does California's definition of magazine capacity have to do with anything? Are California's 10 round magazines called standard or limited? Why would California make a law to define something already considered standard?
04-09-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
What part of "standard capacity for the firearm Adam Lanza used" are you having trouble comprehending?
Everyone seems to be calling more than 10 rounds high capacity
No idea where you're getting "standard capacity" from unless it's military language
04-09-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
"*U.S.*+
Gun sales drive demand for high capacity magazines
February 24
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LAS VEGAS
America's zeal for guns is driving sales of one of the industry's most controversial accessories: high capacity magazines.
High capacity magazines that carry 10 or more rounds, have been banned in eight states. But sales are strong where they're still legal, fueled by fears that they'll soon be subject to tighter regulations.
The popularity of the magazines prompted Jarret Mock to launch the startup TorkMag last year in Fort Myers, Florida. His startup makesmagazines that hold 35 or 50 rounds. The magazines, which sell for $22 or $40,*are for AR-15s.
....
No idea where you're getting "standard capacity" from unless it's military language
I always look to the MSM when trying to find proper gun terminology :lol "clips"
04-09-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
I'm starting to get it....gun strokers want to make sure it's called "standard capacity" so that it doesn't sound so evil.
04-10-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
I'm starting to get it....gun strokers want to make sure it's called "standard capacity" so that it doesn't sound so evil.
It's called standard capacity because it's the standard capacity. Ill informed people like yourself and the MSM call them high capacity in an attempt to make them sound evil. Same way you refer to the modern sporting rifle AR15 as an assault rifle even though less than 1% of them are used in firearm homicides.
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
It's called standard capacity because it's the standard capacity. Ill informed people like yourself and the MSM call them high capacity in an attempt to make them sound evil. Same way you refer to the modern sporting rifle AR15 as an assault rifle even though less than 1% of them are used in firearm homicides.
Yeah, I get it already. You and other gun fuckers want to make sure that everyone knows it's called standard capacity. I even found a T shirt for sale on amazon saying that.
30 round standard capacity is a high capacity. That's the point.
Yeah, I get it already. You and other gun fuckers want to make sure that everyone knows it's called standard capacity. I even found a T shirt for sale on amazon saying that.
30 round standard capacity is a high capacity. That's the point.
If you call a 30 round mag high capacity, what capacity do you call 100 round mag?
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
If you call a 30 round mag high capacity, what capacity do you call 100 round mag?
High.
Ask me about a 1000 round capacity
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
I'm OK with trained teachers packing.
She needed a gun here, imo
04-10-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
High.
Ask me about a 1000 round capacity
Doesn't exist.
How many rounds are in a standard capacity AR15 magazine?
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Doesn't exist.
How many rounds are in a standard capacity AR15 magazine?
A high amount.
04-10-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
It's always hilarious when you butt in as an authority of some kind.
It's always hilarious when your ignorance is totally exposed.
04-10-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by Blake
A high amount.
I asked for a number. How many rounds are in a standard capacity AR15 magazine?
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
It's always hilarious when your ignorance is totally exposed.
Meh, yours is funnier.
04-10-2016
Blake
Re: Active shooter at Lackland AFB
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
I asked for a number. How many rounds are in a standard capacity AR15 magazine?
