My God, I have never seen a more boring series. Feels like a preaseason game.

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Originally Posted by daslicer

It works both ways in the sense if the Spurs had a hard first round series they risk injuries and getting worn out early in the playoffs. Trolls bitching about an easy series simply because their trolling is limited in this series.

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Because there's no middle ground between a series like the 2014 Mavs or 2015 Clippers vs. a team with less than 5 legit NBA rotation players:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by daslicer

I'll take this over an exciting first round series like last year where the Spurs lost.

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That was the BEST series of all last year Playoffs (Finals included). Clips finished so mentally exhausted that layed an egg vs HOU in the Semis.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Because there's no middle ground between a series like the 2014 Mavs or 2015 Clippers vs. a team with less than 5 legit NBA rotation players:rolleyes

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You have no concerns at all about the SL offense?

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Originally Posted by TheDoctor

That was the BEST series of all last year Playoffs (Finals included). Clips finished so mentally exhausted that layed an egg vs HOU in the Semis.

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It was a sick playoff series. Crazy that it was a first round. The West was absolutely nuts last year with seeding and the difference between 7 & 2 being basically nothing.

let's not act like playing against a bunch of bickering quitters like Houston would have done us any favor..Spurs would have still beaten up on Dallas IMO (terrible matchup for them)..Portland was the only other that would have pushed us a bit...THIS 1ST round was going to be a BYE anyhow due to shittiness of the West outside the top 4..Spurs would have still swept Memphis with Gasol/Conley only that the margin would be +10 point instead of +25
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Wait, the Andersons got tickets? How did theyget tickets? The game was sold out!!!!!

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

You have no concerns at all about the SL offense?

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I have concerns about the offense based on their performance over the entire regular season(particularly Danny Green's shooting and Tim becoming an offensive liability, at times), but not based on this series, at all..it's essentially an exhibition..

I never came into this series expecting them to "turn it on" or that Memphis being so bad would help the Spurs "get in a rhythm"..it's human nature to not play as hard and focused vs. a team with virtually no NBA talent, especially when you've been beating them by 20 without breaking a sweat..not to mention the Grizzlies' style of play and strategy has been to make the game ugly..

This Grizzlies team easily has less talent than this year's Suns, Lakers and Nets..only the 6ers probably have less talent(not even 100% sure about that, too)..

Type of series that should be played at noon on weekdays.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

I have concerns about the offense based on their performance over the entire regular season(particularly Danny Green's shooting and Tim becoming an offensive liability, at times), but not based on this series, at all..it's essentially an exhibition..

I never came into this series expecting them to "turn it on" or that Memphis being so bad would help the Spurs "get in a rhythm"..it's human nature to not play as hard and focused vs. a team with virtually no NBA talent, especially when you've been beating them by 20 without breaking a sweat..not to mention the Grizzlies' style of play and strategy has been to make the game ugly..

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I sort of agree, but with them being such a mediocre defensive team? I definitely was expecting the offense (SL) to generate good looks and convert. You shouldn't have to try hard to look good offensively against MEM IMO. At least the bench is coming around.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

You have no concerns at all about the SL offense?

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I'm sure harlem is concenred. Like with anyone else..(Tim Duncan is really the biggest culprit of the slow starts and Parker to a lesser extent) but at this point this team isnt going tl change its starting lineup. But no one should be concerned about the offense in this series considering the terrible competition.

Its also impossible to work on offense and execute knowin you're playing D-Leaguers. You can see it in them. These guys are dissappinted they're playing a shitty team.

It's not about the starters individually, it's the bizarre emphasis on isolation heavy sets. Outside of some PnR action with Tony and LaMarcus, we're essentially running an ISO offense with the starters taking turns (Tony off the dribble, Tim on the block, Kawhi on the block or wing, and Aldridge on the block). It's stand around and watch, and is very easy to defend (relative to our motion O from two years ago).

It's frankly idiotic and feels like it's setting us up for an easy exit against quality opposition (be it Golden State or maybe even OKC). Pop needs to pull his head out of his ass and get the beautiful game going again. That's when this team and offense is at its best.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

I'm sure harlem is concenred. Like with anyone else..(Tim Duncan is really the biggest culprit of the slow starts and Parker to a lesser extent) but at this point this team isnt going tl change its starting lineup. But no one should be concerned about the offense in this series considering the terrible competition.

Its also impossible to work on offense and execute knowin you're playing D-Leaguers. You can see it in them. These guys are dissappinted they're playing a shitty team.

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But where was that excuse to end the season when SA was playing good teams like GS? You saw the same issues. The offense for the first 2/3rds of the year did not look like this. It was the final stretch where the SL offense was not converting.

Even when DG struggled to start the year, the SL was putting up significant offensive metrics. It nose dived towards the end of the year.

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But where was that excuse to end the season when SA was playing good teams like GS? You saw the same issues. The offense for the first 2/3rds of the year did not look like this. It was the final stretch where the SL offense was not converting.

Even when DG struggled to start the year, the SL was points significant offensive metrics. It nose dived towards the end of the year.

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The issues are definitely serious, no denying that, I just don't put any stock in this series..

It's pretty difficult to build a good offense in a brand new system with Danny Green shooting 33% from 3, Duncan struggling on offense and TP having a disastrous 2nd half of the season..the starting unit's offense was essentially Kawhi and Aldridge vs. the world..

As for your last point, that's probably due to Parker..he had a ridiculously good 1st half of the season, but a terrible 2nd half(efficiency took a nosedive)..when you already have this year's version of Green and Tim on the floor, your offense needs Parker to play at a high level..

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

It's not about the starters individually, it's the bizarre emphasis on isolation heavy sets. Outside of some PnR action with Tony and LaMarcus, we're essentially running an ISO offense with the starters taking turns (Tony off the dribble, Tim on the block, Kawhi on the block or wing, and Aldridge on the block). It's stand around and watch, and is very easy to defend (relative to our motion O from two years ago).

It's frankly idiotic and feels like it's setting us up for an easy exit against quality opposition (be it Golden State or maybe even OKC). Pop needs to pull his head out of his ass and get the beautiful game going again. That's when this team and offense is at its best.

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Cant do that consistently without a guard that can consistently draw double teams in the paint to drive and kick from.

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

It's not about the starters individually, it's the bizarre emphasis on isolation heavy sets. Outside of some PnR action with Tony and LaMarcus, we're essentially running an ISO offense with the starters taking turns (Tony off the dribble, Tim on the block, Kawhi on the block or wing, and Aldridge on the block). It's stand around and watch, and is very easy to defend (relative to our motion O from two years ago).

It's frankly idiotic and feels like it's setting us up for an easy exit against quality opposition (be it Golden State or maybe even OKC). Pop needs to pull his head out of his ass and get the beautiful game going again. That's when this team and offense is at its best.

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You're a legitimate retard. Please do not ever discuss basketball in a sports forum, irl, chat or any other form of discussion. Take a seat and just read. Thanks.

I you were the GM and we traded Kawhi got Ariza I bet this would be a better series, tbh.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

You're a legitimate retard. Please do not ever discuss basketball in a sports forum, irl, chat or any other form of discussion. Take a seat and just read. Thanks.

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Others are voicing the same concerns. Been here long before you and talking x's and o's, thanks.

Why don't you do all of us a favor, head downtown, and toss your computer in the Riverwalk while you're at it? If you want to discuss the issues with our offense, go for it. Personal insults? What are you, 12?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

But where was that excuse to end the season when SA was playing good teams like GS? You saw the same issues. The offense for the first 2/3rds of the year did not look like this. It was the final stretch where the SL offense was not converting.

Even when DG struggled to start the year, the SL was putting up significant offensive metrics. It nose dived towards the end of the year.

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The Warriors gutted the spurs in that game but even them experienced a significant drop late in the season. I'm concerend about the offense, but you have to understand that the way this team is structured offensively, they're not going to go out there and score 30. My concern is largely with Green's shooting. I'm not even that worried with Duncan against GSW since he benched him in favour of Diaw in the one game we won.

Again teams posting historic regular season wins typically experience a drop off in play late in the season. GSW last year, GSW this year, Spurs this year, A couple.of the miami runs etc. It's extremely common.

It could be a mental thing...but even Manu admotted sometimes they just wished the playoffs would start. They lost focus with nothing to play for. Check his interview a few week ago iirc

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

The issues are definitely serious, no denying that, I just don't put any stock in this series..

It's pretty difficult to build a good offense in a brand new system with Danny Green shooting 33% from 3, Duncan struggling on offense and TP having a disastrous 2nd half of the season..the starting unit's offense was essentially Kawhi and Aldridge vs. the world..

As for your last point, that's probably due to Parker..he had a ridiculously good 1st half of the season, but a terrible 2nd half(efficiency took a nosedive)..when you already have this year's version of Green and Tim on the floor, your offense needs Parker to play at a high level..

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Enlightened post. Good review.:tu
I saw Pop stick with Timmy even though he was struggling and he ended up finally drawing some fouls.

Also to consider DPG, a lot of these slow starts are a result of our team trying to control the pace of the game. They've been working really hard the whole season doing that. Sometimes it's ugly and its been ugly the whole march, but you got to understand this team went from fast penetrating attack to Iso heacy sets to control the pace.

They just need to digure out how to play more efficiently because they've mastered the art of dictating the pace already. In just one season.

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Others are voicing the same concerns. Been here long before you and talking x's and o's, thanks.

Why don't you do all of us a favor, head downtown, and toss your computer in the Riverwalk while you're at it? If you want to discuss the issues with our offense, go for it. Personal insults? What are you, 12?

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Please get back to beautifull game :cry

What a vanilla mainstram retard fan :lmao

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I can't believe people are worried or trying to analyze anything..the only thing to take away from this series is that the Spurs are going to be in serious trouble of losing game 1 of the 2nd round after playing one of the worst playoff teams I've ever seen for an entire series:lol..

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Considering LMA wasn't fully comfortable w/ his sore pinky & Diaw returning from injury along w/ Tim needing PT to get his rhythm back, banging w/ Z-Bo in an exhibition game is as good as you can ask for those guys.

Patty/Danny/Porky also could use a series to regain their confidence & at the least Patty/Danny are hitting open shots along w/ Porky attacking the rim.

Pop is also using the series as an opportunity to get K-Mart acclimated w/ the rotation players & he is knocking down his outside shots. Manu also can play 15-20 minutes & save himself for the rest of the playoffs.

Hopefully, LMA/Diaw will be close to a 100% by the start of the 2nd rd.

The good news is, and what gives me hope is two things:

Bench/3PT: Both looking better this series.

Against good opponents: Even to end the year, I felt they generated good looks, they didn't hit. If our guys are hitting 3's and the offense can create good looks, SA has a shot.

I'm just frustrated because we have to wait until the second round at least to find out if Aldridge was really worth it or not

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

Please get back to beautifull game :cry

What a vanilla mainstram retard fan :lmao

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Another solid take :tu

This team can't beat Golden State in a series running iso ball. Golden State thrives against that kind of O, it lets Green roam and cause problems.

Hell, I'm not even sure we'll get past OKC with it.

You bitch about Danny's shooting? Well guess what? Two years ago he and Patty both were open repeatedly with no man within ten feet of them thanks to that motion O. Now? He's got a guy all over him, or within a step at best. Figure it out. You run a mid-post offense with Aldridge and it changes the spacing on the court, and compresses the distance the defense has to cover on any rotation.

But keep bringing the insults, it's a lot easier than actually talking about the problems with our offense.