Not so sure about the 99% figure. I mean for people who know their shit (ie who actually know who Kawhi is and what he's capable of), I'm sure it'd be way closer to 50/50 (taking age into account as well).Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
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Not so sure about the 99% figure. I mean for people who know their shit (ie who actually know who Kawhi is and what he's capable of), I'm sure it'd be way closer to 50/50 (taking age into account as well).Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
If you're talking about who you'd rather have going forward, it's clearly Kawhi considering their age gap. But in terms of who's the better player now, it's fairly comfortably LeBron still. As others have alluded to, Kawhi just hasn't shown the consistency of LeBron. If I have to pick between having LeBron or Kawhi for one playoff run right now, I'm going with LeBron.
Regardless, the fact that this is even remotely a debate is pretty incredible and shows how lucky we've gotten with Kawhi.
Lebron? it is better than MJ...... [/green]
lol no.
But you could make a case that Kawhi has higher upside in this stage of his career.
I voted for Lebron. Yeah I want Kawhi to be the best but he isn't better than Lebron right now. I hope he can get to that level soon though. And I think he will.
Um, no.
Lmao not even close. He isn't even durant level yet, but he's a solid rank 4 in the NBA after curry, bron, and durant
No. I love KL but he's not better than LBJ, LeBron is one of the best basketball players to ever walk this earth, his play making is off the charts, granted KL is only 24 but it's still LeBron as of right now, he can lead a team to the finals, doesn't always win but we have yet to see how KL will do surrounded by no one. LeBron took the 2007 cavs to the championship with NOONE on the team.
So...psychics?Quote:
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No, he took them to the Finals. He did not take them to the championship. I know that's what you meant but let's not equivocate.Quote:
Originally Posted by emanueldavidginobili
What the hell is a phychic? Is that a chick taking physics?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Goddamn, I have thirty-seven thousand posts without a fucking typo and I fail to proofread once.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Kawhi's defense is better than Lebron's defense. His individual offense is as good as Lebron's, but his playmaking and court vision is nowhere near Lebron's level.
And I nailed your balls to the floor on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I just realized when typing in the flagrant foul thread that the spell checker for Chrome isn't working, which is how I missed it. If it makes you feel like a man, though, you go on ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Um, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by jARS mEsH sEt
LeBron simply hijacked the Heats offense & turned Bosh into Ibaka otherwise he could have averaged 20/10.Quote:
Originally Posted by phxspurfan
LeBron was being dared to take jumpers by the Pistons in Gm 3 as if it was the 2013 Finals & for the most part, it worked.:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
(Stanley Johnson/Morris also have also combined for a solid series while being guarded by LeBron)
No, and that's why Lebron is still a better player. Kawhi lacks offensive consistency right now. Sometimes he disappears for whole quarters on O, or for whatever reason klike at the beginning of last game passes up a WIDE open 3 (literally couldn't be more open than that). He just doesn't have a shooter mentality, which is not necessarily bad, but will limit him on the offensive side.Quote:
Originally Posted by jARS mEsH sEt
Also Kawhi's isoball isn't on par with Lebron at all (not to mention e.g. Durant), although it's a by-product of the Spurs system as by design the Spurs rarely go iso. Right now for example Kawhi is a great 3pt shooter because he gets a ton of open shots. But that's nowhere near the kind of stuff Curry or Durant do when the going gets tough and somebody has to take a contested shot--because sometimes the system fails or the D is really good and there is no open shot.
This being said Kawhi has shown tremendous year-to-year progress and he's still young, so there's no reason to believe he won't be even better next year. I fully trust him to work and improve on all the aspects of his game that aren't still (or yet) exceptional. And right now he deserves to be #2 in MVP behind Curry, but that's a regular season award. I still like Lebrons ability to take over games in the playoffs, and his sustained extremely high production and efficiency in the playoffs in general.
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this is probably the most objective.........
anyway im just happy Kawhi is in the conversation at all....
now to game four gentlemen, bring out the brooms, lets clean room , hahahahahahahahaha
ole, ole ole ole, ole, ole
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Originally Posted by SpursforSix
What I meant is, if you're asking casual fans there's a good chance they won't know Kawhi enough, and will just choose Lebron on mere popularity. But if you choose between the two while having a good understanding of who both players are and what they can bring, the answer might be more nuanced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I'd say, first quarters.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
Since the 2nd part of the season, it's clear that Pop wants to establish LMA-Parker two-man game in the first quarters, force-feeing LMA, that means that Kawhi must park in the corner and wait for long stretches without the ball in his hands.
Sometimes this force-feed makes good things happen, other times it stagnates the SL offense and the Spurs have slow starts.
He was trying to get Danny going in that play, but he shouldn't pass up clean looks, it'd be nice to see Kawhi becoming more selfish.Quote:
or for whatever reason klike at the beginning of last game passes up a WIDE open 3 (literally couldn't be more open than that)
After watching Durant numbers in clutch time this season, I'd put only Curry there.Quote:
Originally Posted by will_spurs
However, it's not like Kawhi isn't really good at making those shots, Lowe said that Kawhi ranks among the league best one-on-one scorers, from both the perimeter and the post.
In game 3, before his last three-point-shot, the previous play, he beat Allen one-on-one with a tough shot.
By virtue of Kawhi not being a 12 year old little girl on social media - Yes. Also, because he's not a Narcissistic, ego maniacal coach killer.