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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
Stephen A. Smith says if no more Curry, whoever wins the title will have an asterisk without a doubt for not playing against Curry.
Guy is a total teabagger.....come on Screaming A GO Balls deep!!!!!!!
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
Stephen A. Smith says if no more Curry, whoever wins the title will have an asterisk without a doubt for not playing against Curry.
Bullshit...whoever wins wins. GSW played Cavs missing two of there stars. Also anything Smith says is of no significance. Go Spurs and f*ck everyone!
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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hater
Cavs without their best player Irving took the worriers to 6 games last season.
Add GOAT Kyrie and they trounce everyone with complete ease.
You discount how much better their D was without kyrie and love
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
Stephen A. Smith says if no more Curry, whoever wins the title will have an asterisk without a doubt for not playing against Curry.
How about the his beloved Lakers without Malone losing to DET in '04? asterisk for DET?
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
Stephen A. Smith says if no more Curry, whoever wins the title will have an asterisk without a doubt for not playing against Curry.
I have a feeling that statement is only reserved for the Spurs. If OKC,Cavs,Clippers, win it all he will definitely renege on those comments.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
daslicer
I have a feeling that statement is only reserved for the Spurs. If OKC,Cavs,Clippers, win it all he will definitely renege on those comments.
This. 1) because First Take is a debate show and Skip would be taking on the role of Spurs advocate and gloating, and Stephen A would need a reason to puncture Skip's hubris, 2) Stephen A is a always a fan of "cool, popular" players first. If the general populace likes them, if they have style, he'll support them on the court or field because it gets him ratings and because he wants to maximize his chance of getting access to them and getting some scoop. Thus his over-praise of OKC and LeBron. He's had issues in the past with Durant, but I doubt he'd hang an asterisk on OKC (he loves "warrior" Westbrook. He certainly wouldn't on LeBron. The Clips probably not either, but they're the most likely outside of the Spurs.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Obstructed_View
The Spurs have a trophy case full of asterisks. I'd be super happy with another one.
Amen. They have an asterisk on their logo. It's the mark for which to take special notice.
http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/6/233/full/828.gif
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
What's with all the Cavs would beat Warriors talk in here? GTFO!! Spurs will beat whoever for the Championship. Take all the other hypothetical nonsense downstairs.
Hater:
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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tmtcsc
What's with all the Cavs would beat Warriors talk in here? GTFO!! Spurs will beat whoever for the Championship. Take all the other hypothetical nonsense downstairs.
It smells like fart down there.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
In terms of asterisks, I think there are legitimate scenarios where you can use them. Basically, if something highly unusual & out of your control happens that significantly changes the odds of who wins, it's applicable IMO.
To show that I'm not biased, I'll give you a Spurs related example: Dirk going down in game 3 of the 2003 WCF b/w the Spurs & the Mavs. He's never been particularly injury prone, he was young, and the Mavs weren't risking an injury by over-playing/stressing him during the regular season.
Basically, if a team plays its cards right, and bad shit still happens, then I'll say there's an asterisk. And some asterisks are bigger than others...
Fwiw, '99 wasn't an asterisk. Phil crying asterisk was him not being able to take not just a loss, but a pummeling. In '00 Duncan fucked his knee up. That shit WAS an asterisk. A big one.
As it concerns the Warriors, I think you know where stand given the above.
Curry's now multiple injuries are a direct result of their record-chasing to 73 wins. Especially after coming off of a deep run & championship last year, it was a risk that Kerr was willing to take--but actually didn't want to take--only to make his players happy.
You don't get to celebrate/gloat in that achievement when nothing bad happens, and then what it does not own up to the fact that it may've not been what's in the best interest of the team in the long run.
The team shot itself in the foot.
A significant part of being a championship team is mitigating the risks to players health. They took the risk, and look to be now paying a hefty price for it. It's survival of the fittest, and if you're too stupid/short-sighted to realize that, then we'll too fucking bad.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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mingus
In terms of asterisks, I think there are legitimate scenarios where you can use them. Basically, if something highly unusual & out of your control happens that significantly changes the odds of who wins, it's applicable IMO.
To show that I'm not biased, I'll give you a Spurs related example: Dirk going down in game 3 of the 2003 WCF b/w the Spurs & the Mavs. He's never been particularly injury prone, he was young, and the Mavs weren't risking an injury by over-playing/stressing him during the regular season.
Basically, if a team plays its cards right, and bad shit still happens, then I'll say there's an asterisk. And some asterisks are bigger than others...
Fwiw, '99 wasn't an asterisk. Phil crying asterisk was him not being able to take not just a loss, but a pummeling. In '00 Duncan fucked his knee up. That shit WAS an asterisk. A big one.
As it concerns the Warriors, I think you know where stand given the above.
Curry's now multiple injuries are a direct result of their record-chasing to 73 wins. Especially after coming off of a deep run & championship last year, it was a risk that Kerr was willing to take--but actually didn't want to take--only to make his players happy.
You don't get to celebrate/gloat in that achievement when nothing bad happens, and then what it does not own up to the fact that it may've not been what's in the best interest of the team in the long run.
The team shot itself in the foot.
A significant part of being a championship team is mitigating the risks to players health. They took the risk, and look to be now paying a hefty price for it. It's survival of the fittest, and if you're too stupid/short-sighted to realize that, then we'll too fucking bad.
There are no asterisks, there are winners and losers. The only reason an asterisk should ever be lodged is if a team is found to have cheated to win several years down the road. All the rest of the asterisk talk is for pussies and faggots.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Spurs 4 The Win
There are no asterisks, there are winners and losers. The only reason an asterisk should ever be lodged is if a team is found to have cheated to win several years down the road. All the rest of the asterisk talk is for pussies and faggots.
asterisks are like starfish...everybody has one
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
mingus
Fwiw, '99 wasn't an asterisk. Phil crying asterisk was him not being able to take not just a loss, but a pummeling.
What loss are you referring to? Phil was not yet the coach of the Lakers when we swept Kobe and Shaq in 99. I thought he brought up the whole asterisk thing to annoy a contending Spurs fans during 2000 or 2001 (years when LA would ring).
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Curry's now multiple injuries are a direct result of their record-chasing to 73 wins. Especially after coming off of a deep run & championship last year, it was a risk that Kerr was willing to take--but actually didn't want to take--only to make his players happy.
You don't get to celebrate/gloat in that achievement when nothing bad happens, and then what it does not own up to the fact that it may've not been what's in the best interest of the team in the long run.
The team shot itself in the foot.
A significant part of being a championship team is mitigating the risks to players health. They took the risk, and look to be now paying a hefty price for it.
I agree they pushed themselves and took risk by going for the record.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
BillMc
What loss are you referring to? Phil was not yet the coach of the Lakers when we swept Kobe and Shaq in 99. I thought he brought up the whole asterisk thing to annoy a contending Spurs fans during 2000 or 2001 (years when LA would ring).
You are correct. I think that it was Kurt Rambis who coached the lakers in the playoffs when the Spurs swept the Lakers in '99
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
hater
Cavs are quietly rounding into championship team. They will run the table vs everyone this year.
They struggled against Detroit and won 2 close games against them in which the officials allowed them toe beat the hell out of the pistons on the defensive end.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
I love all the asterick bullshit when Curry is injured, but when the Warriors got one injury ridden team after another then it's okay
:lol
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Amuseddaysleeper
I love all the asterick bullshit when Curry is injured, but when the Warriors got one injury ridden team after another then it's okay
:lol
It's only an asterisk when you are not a popular media team.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
If it's one of Spurs, Warriors, OKC in the Finals, Cavs gonna be a very tough out! They are pissed that they lost the way they did last season, so they will push whoever they play.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Keepin' it real
Stephen A. Smith says if no more Curry, whoever wins the title will have an asterisk without a doubt for not playing against Curry.
Could care less. THey dont put asterisks on banners nor the championship gear.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Obstructed_View
The Spurs have a trophy case full of asterisks. I'd be super happy with another one.
Ill fill the trophy case up all day with "asterisk" championships.
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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SpursFan86
Errr, he said "whoever wins the title"...meaning LeBron would get an asterisk as well.
And honestly he's right. If Curry can't play these playoffs, whoever ends up winning (Cleveland, SA, OKC, etc.) is going to get questioned about whether they were truly the best team or not. People will always go, "Yeah they were a great team, but there's no way they would've beaten GS if Curry didn't go down". That sort of stuff always happens to an extent when injuries are involved, but when it's the MVP of the team that just broke the single-season record for wins? You can bet your ass people are going to be throwing around the term "asterisk" quite a bit.
Luckily for me, I don't give a shit :lol I'll take an "asterisk title" over no title. I'll still enjoy it the same and 10 years from now I'll just be happy I got to see my team win one more with the big 3.
He's not right. Injuries happen and theyre not an excuse.
Thats what im always told when the Spurs had them in 2000, 08,09,11,13,15
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Chillen
If it's one of Spurs, Warriors, OKC in the Finals, Cavs gonna be a very tough out! They are pissed that they lost the way they did last season, so they will push whoever they play.
Yup. I think CLE pushes a healthy GS team too. CLE is really, really good. Especially if they get anything from guys like JR Smith (who's shooting crazy from 3 to start the playoffs)
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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T Park
Could care less. THey dont put asterisks on banners nor the championship gear.
Hmmm, that is a great marketing idea to razz rival fan bases. T-shirt idea:
Lakers 2000 NBA Champions*
*(Tim Duncan was injured)
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Re: John Salley Says Spurs Will Win the Championship
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Originally Posted by
Obstructed_View
The Spurs have a trophy case full of asterisks. I'd be super happy with another one.
Hellz yeah...bring on 2016*! :hat