Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
"There's a lot of this feeling about violence coming from Trump's campaign," he said. "And I very much hope that he understands that in a democracy, people should be allowed to go to anybody's rally, peacefully demonstrate without fear of being beaten up. So I really hope he tones it down. This is not good for the country."
Agreed Bernie, people should be allowed to go to anybody's rally, peacefully demonstrate without fear of being beaten up.
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
There is much more violence at GOP events.
At the hands of the Left.
05-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
At the hands of the Left.
Bull fucking shit. anti-Trumps hold up signs, shout, then get beat up by your Trump rightwingnut fascist goons
05-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
Which Dems incite and promise to compensate violence, want to punch protesters?
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
Bull fucking shit. anti-Trumps hold up signs, shout, then get beat up by your Trump rightwingnut fascist goons
those videos posted directly above prove you wrong. It's undeniable. During this campaign the left has been far more violent, it's not even a debate but it's fun watching you flail around and deny it.
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
It will be impossible, over the long term, to maintain peace and even national unity if elite media and the Democratic party continue to condone and even encourage political violence and the systematic violation of individual rights by its radical progressive base. From Occupy to Ferguson to Baltimore to the unrest on campus, Americans have watched the liberal establishment trip over itself to express solidarity and sympathy with protesters who’ve burned, looted, shut down roads and parks, and violated the fundamental rights of American citizens. As Trump supporters are fond of pointing out on Twitter, this didn’t happen at a Trump event:
For the better part of two years, millions of Americans have watched as violence and disruption actually work. At college campuses, radical students and allied professors and administrators will shout down dissenters, intimidate fellow students, disrupt the educational process, and win.
In the streets of American cities, protesters will riot, vandalize, block traffic, and invade shops and restaurants, and they win. When the narratives (“Hands up, don’t shoot,” or “It’s open season” on black males) are debunked by facts, protesters still prevail. Police tactics change even as the national murder rate seems set for its largest spike in 25 years. In the nation’s 50 largest cities, 770 more people were murdered in 2015 than in the previous year. Yet with the exception of a few courageous progressives, the Left largely hails this unrest. Even riots are excused or minimized by leading figures in the liberal intelligentsia, and mob actions that violate the free-speech rights of fellow citizens — by shouting down or shutting down events the Left doesn’t like — are whitewashed as “peaceful protest.”
If the Left thinks that it can continue to use, with impunity, violence and disruption as the enforcement mechanism of its political and intellectual movement, it is sadly mistaken. Recent American history shows that tolerance for left-wing violence and disruption is limited, and that same history shows that the violence will meet with a response. Whether that response is constructive or destructive depends on the quality of American leadership. The political violence and unrest of 1968 helped usher in an era of Republican presidential dominance. Between 1968 and 1988, Republicans won five of six presidential contests — often running on law-and-order platforms designed to directly counter the sense that America was unraveling, that violence was spiraling out of control. Clinton was able to break the Republican winning streak only by directly confronting black radicals (remember his “Sister Souljah moment”?) and doing so with enormous rank-and-file black support. Now, sadly, he’s ashamed of the bipartisan crime bills that helped end America’s murder epidemic. Stepping back from the brink took leadership.
Where are our leaders now? As Molly Ball notes today in an insightful piece in The Atlantic, Trump is dominating the GOP primary in part because he is directly tapping into the anger over double standards. In response to an unruly protester, he asks, “Why are they allowed to do things that we’re not allowed to do, can you explain that to me?” Pondering American military restraint in the face of ISIS atrocities, he writes, “The enemy is cutting off the heads of Christians and drowning them in cages, and yet we are too politically correct to respond in kind.”
Trump’s message is simple — an eye for an eye. Witness this tweeted threat against Bernie Sanders: In the face of an unraveling, Trump is responding. Ball writes: This is why Trump won’t denounce the violence at his events: He is standing up for the people who are tired of being told the divisions in American society are all their fault. As far as they can tell, he is the only one who is. Politics, like nature, abhors a vacuum, and when leaders are absent, the void will be filled. In this sense, Trump may be destructive and violent, but in the absence of a meaningful counter to left-wing bullying and elite double standards, he, or someone like him, was inevitable.
The productive, proper response to the Left’s double standard isn’t to mimic its tactics but rather to impose lawful consequences while forcefully defending core American values. In other words, the answer is a forceful call for respect and for law and order, properly understood — not the boot heel of oppression but the end of most-favored-criminal status for social-justice warriors.
Condemning Trump is not enough. Constructively countering an increasingly radical Left takes real leadership, men and women who can both articulate America’s constitutional values and enforce its constitutional protections. We either remember how to respect and protect the rights both of the majority and of dissenters or we will remember the high cost of political unrest and national division. The chaos of 1968 beckons. Trump and the Left embrace the madness. Who will stop it?
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
"elite media and the Democratic party continue to condone and even encourage political violence"
:lol Holy Shit! Ministry of Truth. :lol
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
"elite media and the Democratic party continue to condone and even encourage political violence"
:lol Holy Shit! Ministry of Truth. :lol
That's your rebuttal? Duly noted.
05-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
That's your rebuttal? Duly noted.
NR and NRO are huge sources of LIES, like this one. They falsely accuse the Dems of doing EXACTLY their autocrat thug Trump is doing.
05-08-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
what evidence does NR offer for Dems' violence? :lol
05-08-2016
TeyshaBlue
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
NR and NRO are huge sources of LIES, like this one. They falsely accuse the Dems of doing EXACTLY their autocrat thug Trump is doing.
lol thinkprogress
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
what evidence does NR offer for Dems' violence? :lol
They are just reporting on what is actually happening. See post#101 in this thread for actual evidence. You can't deny it without throwing out any shred of credibility you had left. Your the last left wing denying your sides violent tactics, best of luck :lol
05-08-2016
FuzzyLumpkins
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TeyshaBlue
lol thinkprogress
national review isn't what it used to be either.
05-08-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
national review isn't what it used to be either.
Try actually reading the article before you dismiss it, if I'm off ignore of course. Speaks to both the problems of Trump and the violent left,
05-09-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Chinook
This thread is such bullshit. Just admit that leftist activists can be stupid, irrational and violent like everyone else. It's not hard, and it doesn't mean that you think Trump is any more right or justified. But this ad homenim tactic is so fucking idiotic.
no side has a monopoly on stupidity or violent conduct. let's stipulate that to begin with.
05-09-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
They are just reporting on what is actually happening. See post#101 in this thread for actual evidence. You can't deny it without throwing out any shred of credibility you had left. Your the last left wing denying your sides violent tactics, best of luck :lol
I lean democrat and even I know those fuckers are violent. The PC culture breeds a mob mentality, when republicans are violent it's just about guns pretty much.
05-09-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Chinook
No. Your point is stupid and fallacious. TSA could BE a child molester, like one who's convicted and proud, and it would still have nothing to do with this thread. You're just proving his point.
I did not call TSA a child molester, only a child molester-apologist. There's a subtle difference.
I didn't prove his point or your point, and you did not prove it either, even though you did the touchdown dance.
05-09-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Victimhood is based on an arbitrary age decided by the state, not by the person participating. Do you think the 16 year old who banged two of his teachers for 9 hours feels like a victim? Or his he just a victim because his state decided for him that he is not old enough to decide for himself whether or not a 9 hour threesome would be a good idea.
I have no idea. Why don't you continue to explain it?
You seem to have a granular knowledge of the sexual contact. Where did you get it?
05-09-2016
TeyshaBlue
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
national review isn't what it used to be either.
Zactly.
05-10-2016
Shastafarian
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Chinook
This thread is such bullshit. Just admit that leftist activists can be stupid, irrational and violent like everyone else. It's not hard, and it doesn't mean that you think Trump is any more right or justified. But this ad homenim tactic is so fucking idiotic.
:cry
Real talk though I'm pretty happy with how this thread turned out.
05-17-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Nevada Democrats: Sanders campaign has violent streak
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada's Democratic party on Monday warned the Democratic National Committee that Sen. Bernie Sanders' supporters have a penchant for violence and may seek to disrupt the party's national convention in July, as they did during the Nevada convention Saturday.
The allegation is the latest fallout from a divisive Nevada Democratic convention that had to be shut down because security at the Paris Las Vegas hotel could no longer ensure order on Saturday night. The gathering closed with some Sanders supporters throwing chairs; later, some made death threats against state party chairwoman Roberta Lange.
Sanders' backers had been protesting convention rules that ultimately led to Hillary Clinton winning more pledged delegates. Clinton won the state's caucuses in February, 53-47, but Sanders backers hoped to pick up extra delegates by packing county and state party gatherings.
Sanders had released a statement Friday night asking supporters to work "together respectfully and constructively" at the convention. But the state party alleged in its letter to the co-chairs of the DNC Rules and By-laws committee, "The explosive situation arose in large part because a portion of the community of Sanders delegates arrived at the Nevada Democratic State Convention believing itself to be a vanguard intent upon sparking a street-fight rather than attending an orderly political party process."
Michael Briggs, a Sanders campaign spokesman, said, "We do not condone violence or encourage violence or even threats of violence." He added that the campaign "had no role in encouraging the activity that the party is complaining about. We have a First Amendment and respect the rights of the people to make their voices heard."
On Saturday, Sanders backers shouted down the keynote speaker, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and others they thought were tilting the rules in Clinton's favor. Protesters shouted obscenities and rushed the dais to protest rulings. The letter by the state party's general counsel, Bradley S. Schrager, warns that similarly chaotic scenes could unfold in Philadelphia, site of the Democratic National Committee's July convention.
"We believe, unfortunately, that the tactics and behavior on display here in Nevada are harbingers of things to come as Democrats gather in Philadelphia in July for our National Convention," Schrager wrote. "We write to alert you to what we perceive as the Sanders campaign's penchant for extra-parliamentary behavior — indeed, actual violence — in place of democratic conduct in a convention setting, and furthermore what we can only describe as their encouragement of, and complicity in, a very dangerous atmosphere that ended in chaos and physical threats to fellow Democrats."
Several Sanders backers have condemned some of the threats against Lange and other actions Saturday. Former state assemblywoman Lucy Flores, a current congressional candidate, said in a statement: "There were actions over the weekend and at the Democratic convention that very clearly crossed the line. Progressives need to speak out against those: Making threats against someone's life, defacing private property, and hurling vulgar language at our female leaders."
State party offices remained closed Monday for security reasons after Sanders supporters posted Lange's home and business addresses, email and cell phone number online. Copies of angry and threatening texts to Lange were included with the letter.
Lange said she'd been receiving hundreds of profanity-laced calls and texts from inside and outside of the U.S., threatening her life and her family. Lange said the restaurant where she works has received so many calls it had to unplug the phone.
"It is endless, and the longer it goes the worse it gets," Lange said in an interview. "I feel threatened everywhere I go."
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Associated Press Congressional Correspondent Erica Werner in Washington contributed to this report.
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Lib crickets
05-17-2016
Th'Pusher
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Nevada Democrats: Sanders campaign has violent streak
LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada's Democratic party on Monday warned the Democratic National Committee that Sen. Bernie Sanders' supporters have a penchant for violence and may seek to disrupt the party's national convention in July, as they did during the Nevada convention Saturday.
The allegation is the latest fallout from a divisive Nevada Democratic convention that had to be shut down because security at the Paris Las Vegas hotel could no longer ensure order on Saturday night. The gathering closed with some Sanders supporters throwing chairs; later, some made death threats against state party chairwoman Roberta Lange.
Sanders' backers had been protesting convention rules that ultimately led to Hillary Clinton winning more pledged delegates. Clinton won the state's caucuses in February, 53-47, but Sanders backers hoped to pick up extra delegates by packing county and state party gatherings.
Sanders had released a statement Friday night asking supporters to work "together respectfully and constructively" at the convention. But the state party alleged in its letter to the co-chairs of the DNC Rules and By-laws committee, "The explosive situation arose in large part because a portion of the community of Sanders delegates arrived at the Nevada Democratic State Convention believing itself to be a vanguard intent upon sparking a street-fight rather than attending an orderly political party process."
Michael Briggs, a Sanders campaign spokesman, said, "We do not condone violence or encourage violence or even threats of violence." He added that the campaign "had no role in encouraging the activity that the party is complaining about. We have a First Amendment and respect the rights of the people to make their voices heard."
On Saturday, Sanders backers shouted down the keynote speaker, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and others they thought were tilting the rules in Clinton's favor. Protesters shouted obscenities and rushed the dais to protest rulings. The letter by the state party's general counsel, Bradley S. Schrager, warns that similarly chaotic scenes could unfold in Philadelphia, site of the Democratic National Committee's July convention.
"We believe, unfortunately, that the tactics and behavior on display here in Nevada are harbingers of things to come as Democrats gather in Philadelphia in July for our National Convention," Schrager wrote. "We write to alert you to what we perceive as the Sanders campaign's penchant for extra-parliamentary behavior — indeed, actual violence — in place of democratic conduct in a convention setting, and furthermore what we can only describe as their encouragement of, and complicity in, a very dangerous atmosphere that ended in chaos and physical threats to fellow Democrats."
Several Sanders backers have condemned some of the threats against Lange and other actions Saturday. Former state assemblywoman Lucy Flores, a current congressional candidate, said in a statement: "There were actions over the weekend and at the Democratic convention that very clearly crossed the line. Progressives need to speak out against those: Making threats against someone's life, defacing private property, and hurling vulgar language at our female leaders."
State party offices remained closed Monday for security reasons after Sanders supporters posted Lange's home and business addresses, email and cell phone number online. Copies of angry and threatening texts to Lange were included with the letter.
Lange said she'd been receiving hundreds of profanity-laced calls and texts from inside and outside of the U.S., threatening her life and her family. Lange said the restaurant where she works has received so many calls it had to unplug the phone.
"It is endless, and the longer it goes the worse it gets," Lange said in an interview. "I feel threatened everywhere I go."
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Associated Press Congressional Correspondent Erica Werner in Washington contributed to this report.
I just saw your girl Wasserman-Shultz denouncing this on cnn and calling on Sanders to do the same. Harsh words. Will she receive your praise TSA for trying to start the conversation?
05-17-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Th'Pusher
I just saw your girl Wasserman-Shultz denouncing this on cnn and calling on Sanders to do the same. Harsh words. Will she receive your praise TSA for trying to start the conversation?
My full praise, despite being even more unfuckable than Hillary.
05-17-2016
Winehole23
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full praise and the back of your hand. I wonder how you treat women who disagree with you.
05-17-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
full praise and the back of your hand. I wonder how you treat women who disagree with you.
If you find her more fuckable than Hillary agree to disagree.
05-17-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
That's how you treat a woman disagreeing with you.
05-18-2016
Spurminator
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Well look at that, we're having a conversation about leftist violence. They even had a segment on NPR this morning.
05-18-2016
MultiTroll
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
LAS VEGAS (AP) — state party chairwoman Roberta Lange.
State party offices remained closed Monday for security reasons after Sanders supporters posted Lange's home and business addresses, email and cell phone number online. Copies of angry and threatening texts to Lange were included with the letter.
Lange said she'd been receiving hundreds of profanity-laced calls and texts from inside and outside of the U.S., threatening her life and her family. Lange said the restaurant where she works has received so many calls it had to unplug the phone.
"It is endless, and the longer it goes the worse it gets," Lange said in an interview. "I feel threatened everywhere I go."
Nicely done.
Beautiful activism.
Keep going til she steps down and/or fesses up.
05-18-2016
boutons_deux
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Bernie backers ‘reality check’ Nevada violence: Video proves we only ‘lifted a chair in frustration’
Supporters of Bernie Sanders fired back at media reports this week that the campaign had a “penchant for violence” by posting a video that they said proved a chair was not thrown during Saturday’s Nevada convention, it was only “lifted in frustration.”
The Associated Press reported on Monday that Democratic officials in Nevada had warned that Sanders supporters may try and disrupt the party’s national convention in Philadelphia based on behavior of the rowdy crowd over the weekend.
“The gathering closed with some Sanders supporters throwing chairs; later, some made death threats against state party chairwoman Roberta Lange,” the AP noted.
“Sanders backers shouted down the keynote speaker, Sen. Barbara Boxer, and others they thought were tilting the rules in Clinton’s favor. Protesters shouted obscenities and rushed the dais to protest rulings.”
But on Tuesday, supporters posted what they said was video proof that no chair was thrown.
The video shows a man at the convention lifting a chair over his head. After several other people step in to talk him down, another Sanders supporter is seen embracing the man with a hug. https://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/ber...n-frustration/
05-19-2016
Winehole23
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so, no chairs thrown
05-19-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
TSA thinks we need to have a national conversation about leftist violence over one crank call.
05-19-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Why didn't Obama call out the National Guard?
05-19-2016
Blake
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Minors can't give consent, does not mean a minor can't be willing.
Lol wow
05-19-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Blake
Lol wow
If you were 16 years old and hot teacher wanted to bang you, more than likely you would be a willing sumbitch, legal or not.
05-19-2016
Blake
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy
If you were 16 years old and hot teacher wanted to bang you, more than likely you would be a willing sumbitch, legal or not.
CC doubling down
05-19-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Blake
CC doubling down
Just a fact if you are 16 years old with testosterone.
Of course, you might be different.
Not going to debate this ad nauseum.
You either have common sense or you don't.
05-19-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
TSA thinks we need to have a national conversation about leftist violence over one crank call.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
05-19-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Blake
Lol wow
You wouldn't have threesome with these two teachers when you were in highschool? Lol wow
Apparently some of these guys have gender ambiguity and didn't like women in high school.
05-20-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
a handful of minor incidents perpetrated by wackos at political rallies, breathlessly hyped, blown out of proportion and used to paint one side of the political spectrum with the broadest possible brush.
propaganda is TSA's metier.
05-20-2016
Winehole23
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
shitting on posters you don't like helps the conversation how? you don't have to treat this board like your own personal bathroom stall.
05-20-2016
DarrinS
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Bonnerific
These fucking mouth breathing inbreds like cocksucker and bicurious tsa are too stupid to think for themselves. This attack shit is page 2 of the mongoloid playbook. Even though you have seen all of racist violent activity that is prevalent at trump and right wing gatherings, that it's common knowledge among the thinking. These faggots march to the orders of the brain that thinks for them.
The big play has always been false equivalence. Find any example of the other side doing anything wrong and attack.
There is a reason that when elections are decided by issues, pubs rarely win. It's hate and fear to drive emotions to get people to vote against their own best interests.
That toad piece of shit Frank lunz wrote a whole memo about this to operatives during the healthcare debates. Stupid cocksucking pieces of shit like cocksuckertsa retardmt etc are the target audience. Ineffectual scared little fucking people that won't take responsibility for their own thinking.
Dude? You went full boutons there. Never go full boutons.
05-20-2016
Winehole23
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This isn't a place where people go to have conversations.
you're wrong about that. conversations can and do happen.
you're not helping.
05-20-2016
FuzzyLumpkins
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Winehole23
you're wrong about that. conversations can and do happen.
you're not helping.
neither are you. you judge and shit on others yourself for that matter.
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
bump for New Mexico.
These dipshit protesters are only pushing people who would otherwise not vote for Trump to get off their asses and vote for Trump.
05-25-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
What's the count of murders by left wingnuts compared to the murders committed by rightwingnuts?
05-25-2016
SpursforSix
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
What's the count of murders by left wingnuts compared to the murders committed by rightwingnuts?
50% higher
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
What's the count of murders by left wingnuts compared to the murders committed by rightwingnuts?
How far back do you want to go?
And I can play the off topic question game too...
What's the 2015 count of murders by people who identify as democrats compared to the murders committed by those who identify as republican?
05-25-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
How far back do you want to go?
And I can play the off topic question game too...
What's the 2015 count of murders by people who identify as democrats compared to the murders committed by those who identify as republican?
how about 5 years? 10 years?
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
how about 5 years? 10 years?
That is fine. And I will answer honestly, I'll even use the chart you've posted several times. Now after I do this will you answer my question honestly or will you run off as expected?
05-25-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
That is fine. And I will answer honestly, I'll even use the chart you've posted several times. Now after I do this will you answer my question honestly or will you run off as expected?
When blacks showed up with long guns at polling place (nobody murdered), it was all over the right-wing media, which REFUSES to propagandize you rightwingnutjobs' violent behaviour as much as they TRUMPET incessantly ANY leftwingnut misbehaviour.
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
When blacks showed up with long guns at polling place (nobody murdered), it was all over the right-wing media, which REFUSES to propagandize you rightwingnutjobs' violent behaviour as much as they TRUMPET incessantly ANY leftwingnut misbehaviour.
Again, I said I would discuss this honestly as long as you are willing to do the same. Now will you answer my question honestly or will you run off? I don't feel like wasting my time if you won't participate after I've done my part you requested.
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Bump for the peaceful Anaheim protesters :lol
05-25-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
And off he ran again.
05-27-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Colorado prison chief’s killing was gang hit DENVER (AP) — Newly released documents show authorities believe the killing of Colorado’s prisons chief was ordered by members of a white supremacist prison gang.
The Denver Post (http://dpo.st/27VDRpy ) obtained a 77-page investigative report alleging 211 Crew gang members ordered the March 2013 killing of Tom Clements.
It says they helped gunman Evan Ebel flee to Texas, where he died in a shootout with authorities.
Ebel shot Clements when he answered his front door. The documents, obtained through a records request, say a gang member told investigators Clements’ killing was ordered after Ebel had a falling out with the founder of the Colorado prison gang.
They also say Ebel had contact with gang members in the days before the shooting.
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
I've seen them in Anaheim, fucking degenerates. Not one single American flag.
05-27-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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I've seen them in Anaheim, fucking degenerates. Not one single American flag.
Reminds me of the old prop 187 days :lol
05-27-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Reminds me of the old prop 187 days :lol
:lol that shit would never get passed these days, way too many of LkrFan's cousins. It wasn't even enforced
06-03-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
I think this thread needs a bump, been looking at some of the San Jose violence. Rumors spreading that the mayor called off the police protection and diverted rally attendees towards the violent mob.
06-03-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Solid bump for San Jose, most violence from the left so far. I'm surprised the Trump supporters are not fighting back and are instead being the tolerant ones. Only a matter of time before one of them stops putting up with the attacks and responds. I'm thinking the protesters will surround the wrong car and start breaking windows and then get run over.
06-05-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Mitch
I think this thread needs a bump, been looking at some of the San Jose violence. Rumors spreading that the mayor called off the police protection and diverted rally attendees towards the violent mob.
While several physical assaults did occur, the police personnel on scene had the difficult task of weighing the need to immediately apprehend the suspect(s) against the possibility that police action involving the use of physical force under the circumstances would further insight [sic] the crowd and produce more violent behavior,”
06-05-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
While several physical assaults did occur, the police personnel on scene had the difficult task of weighing the need to immediately apprehend the suspect(s) against the possibility that police action involving the use of physical force under the circumstances would further insight [sic] the crowd and produce more violent behavior,”
Those pieces of shit should take notes from the SoCal police who are used to dealing with thugs, tbh. Let the riot squad do their job and everything is fine
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
While several physical assaults did occur, the police personnel on scene had the difficult task of weighing the need to immediately apprehend the suspect(s) against the possibility that police action involving the use of physical force under the circumstances would further insight [sic] the crowd and produce more violent behavior,”
That mayor should be ashamed of himself - ordering the police to stand down and not do their jobs. That's so ridiculous - so they are just gonna stand there and watch while they egg/throw stuff/punch people so as not to incite more violence.
06-05-2016
Dirk Oneanddoneski
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Mitch
Those pieces of shit should take notes from the SoCal police who are used to dealing with thugs, tbh. Let the riot squad do their job and everything is fine
Wonder what that crowd size would have been had prop 187 stuck.
06-05-2016
Splits
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Cleveland is going to be awesome.
06-05-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Splits
Cleveland is going to be awesome.
Cleveland will be boring, business as usual.
Philadelphia will be the entertainment, might need to call in the national guard for that :tu
06-05-2016
Reck
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Mitch
Cleveland will be boring, business as usual.
Philadelphia will be the entertainment, might need to call in the national guard for that :tu
Bernard keeps talking about a contested convention but every hour that talking point is looking less and less likely.
Your grandma won the Virgin Island last night. Bernie didn't even meet the 15% threshold and tonight is looking like he'll lose Puerto Rico which has 60 delegates up for grabs.
They're saying that she's now within 25 delegates of reaching 2383. With superdelegates that is.
Bernie's arguement is full of holes. He says he will flip all of your grandma's superdelegates and make them his. Therefore ignoring the popular vote and pledge delegates. :lol
06-05-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Reck
Bernard keeps talking about a contested convention but every hour that talking point is looking less and less likely.
Your grandma won the Virgin Island last night. Bernie didn't even meet the 15% threshold and tonight is looking like he'll lose Puerto Rico which has 60 delegates up for grabs.
They're saying that she's now within 25 delegates of reaching 2383. With superdelegates that is.
Bernie's arguement is full of holes. He says he will flip all of your grandma's superdelegates and make them his. Therefore ignoring the popular vote and pledge delegates. :lol
Technically, it is going to be a contested convention unless Hillary gets the pledged delegates she needs from California. If you need to give her superdelegates it will be contested, but if she wins on the first ballot they avoid a brokered convention. A little bit of semantics, but it is what it is - Bernie isn't wrong that it will be contested, but he is wrong if it means he has a chance.
06-05-2016
Reck
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Mitch
Technically, it is going to be a contested convention unless Hillary gets the pledged delegates she needs from California. If you need to give her superdelegates it will be contested, but if she wins on the first ballot they avoid a brokered convention. A little bit of semantics, but it is what it is - Bernie isn't wrong that it will be contested, but he is wrong if it means he has a chance.
None will have the the necessary pledge delegates. I think she'll be somewhere like 150-200 pledge delegates short.
Obama needed the help of superdelegates to get to the number. I dont remember the last time a democratic candidate got the whole amount of pledge delegates without the super. Maybe you can fill me in on that.
You cant constest something if you dont have the number. I'm confused by that logic. Specially when your only hope is to win over 70% of the vote plus flipping 400+ superdelegates.
I dont know, man.
06-05-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Reck
None will have the the necessary pledge delegates. I think she'll be somewhere like 150-200 pledge delegates short.
Obama needed the help of superdelegates to get to the number. I dont remember the last time a democratic candidate got the whole amount of pledge delegates without the super. Maybe you can fill me in on that.
You cant constest something if you dont have the number. I'm confused by that logic. Specially when your only hope is to win over 70% of the vote plus flipping 400+ superdelegates.
I dont know, man.
Probably John Kerry in 2004, he won almost every state. It's just semantics, Reck, the term contested convention means you don't have a de-facto winner like Trump will be. It's not really a big deal, I don't know why Bernie thinks he will somehow get almost all the unbounds. I think he's just using the term to keep his base hopeful, I guess. It will not be brokered, though.
06-05-2016
Dirk Oneanddoneski
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
This one is 16 minutes with a lot of new footage
06-06-2016
Quetzal-X
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Dirk Oneanddoneski
This one is 16 minutes with a lot of new footage
:lolYou niggaz see how Jacob ran down Esau at 4:30 with that superior burst of takedown speed? :lol
2 Esdras 6:9
“For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”
:claw:fro:claw
06-06-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
by which leading Dems?
06-06-2016
rmt
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Good thing this stuff wasn't going on when I went to the Trump rally here. I went alone while hubby took kids to church.
06-06-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
by which leading Dems?
Do you label gang killings left wing since the overwhelming majority of them are Democrats?
06-06-2016
pgardn
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
by which leading Dems?
You reply with this boots?
Just denounce the punks trying to make trouble taking cheap shots at people from behind.
Then go on about the subject above in another section.
You saw the video, denounce the punks as cowards. You think these cowards are going to vote for Bernie?
I can't stand Trump, but no excuses or misdirect necessary for this behavior.
You are as chicken shit as they are with your misdirect.
06-06-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by TheSanityAnnex
Do you label gang killings left wing since the overwhelming majority of them are Democrats?
gang killings aren't are political terrorism, dumbfuck. violent gang members vote? :lol
06-06-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by pgardn
You reply with this boots?
Just denounce the punks trying to make trouble taking cheap shots at people from behind.
Then go on about the subject above in another section.
You saw the video, denounce the punks as cowards. You think these cowards are going to vote for Bernie?
I can't stand Trump, but no excuses or misdirect necessary for this behavior.
You are as chicken shit as they are with your misdirect.
That's total of people KILLED by rightwingnuts.
How many dead people from lefties over the same period?
your game and your shit is pitifully weak.
06-06-2016
SpursforSix
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
That's total of people KILLED by rightwingnuts.
How many dead people from lefties over the same period?
your game and your shit is pitifully weak.
How many humans has Kim Jong Un murdered?
06-06-2016
boutons_deux
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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How many humans has Kim Jong Un murdered?
:lol Is he American? :lol Is he a lefty? :lol
goddam, you rightwingnuts got some really weak shit
06-06-2016
SpursforSix
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
:lol Is he American? :lol Is he a lefty? :lol
goddam, you rightwingnuts got some really weak shit
How many? I'm waiting.
06-06-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
by which leading Dems?
Your list needs some revisions
Neo-nazi James von Brunn, the US Holocaust Museum shooter, June 2009, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist, and no doubt many vaguely think of him as a "Christian" terrorist.
In fact, he could just as easily be called a "left-wing" terrorist: He hated Israel, opposed the Iraq War, thought 9/11 was an inside job, hated Fox News, hated neo-cons, hated Bush and McCain, and finally he hated Christianity, and said he was a socialist (the Nazis were collectivists).
He referred to "the insane teachings of Jesus", and said the gospels are: "stuffed with lies, miracles, guilt trips, betrayal, virgin birth, eternal damnation, salvation - a scenario appealing to the superstitious, vulnerable, ignorant yearning sheep - he named his hoax "Christianity." ... "Christianity" destroyed Roman Civilization." So he is not a Christian terrorist.
Andrew Joseph Stack, the perpetrator of the Austin tax office suicide attack in Feb 2010, has been labelled a "right-wing" terrorist.
He is a convert to Islam, and said in the threats that he was: "a local Muslim terrorist on a roll." A witness says that he: "called himself a mujahedeen".
Acts 17 Apologetics point out that some people rushed to call him a "Christian" terrorist, and the local Police Chief even said: "He picked Dearborn as a stop because of the huge Arab and Muslim population." When in fact he picked a Shia Muslim mosque because he was a Sunni Muslim.
In a similar phenomenon to the Tucson blood libel against Sarah Palin, people even accused Acts 17 Apologetics of inciting the attack! They have a lovely response: "It seems that our hate speech (i.e. drawing attention to disturbing facts about Islam, while maintaining our love for Muslims) somehow caused the Sunni-Shia split. Perhaps Jem believes that Nabeel and I constructed an Acts 17 time machine, travelled back to 632 and caused division in the Muslim community right after Muhammad died. Perhaps I went to Abu Bakr and said, "Hey! You should be leader!" Then Nabeel went to Ali and said, "You're better than Abu Bakr!" Fourteen centuries later, the division we caused led a Sunni convert to attack a mosque. Acts 17 must be even craftier than we thought!"
A friend said about him: "He was more of a liberal type; he wasn't happy with the former [Bush] administration. He was more happy with this [the Obama] administration -- as far as presidential administrations."
Of course, primarily he was mentally ill.
But don't you think that if he was a Tea Party supporter, all hell would have broken loose?
It also emerged that the shooter created a webpage with the name "Mohammed Salem", though there is no evidence he was Muslim.
Max Fisher gives an account of a horrific anti-Muslim crime in Dec 2014: "In December, a man in Kansas City wrote on his SUV that the Koran was a "disease worse than Ebola," then drove it into a 15-year-old Muslim boy in front of a local mosque, severing his legs and killing him."
However, it emerged that the shooter was a left-wing atheist who hated the GOP and was a fan of the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Max Fisher portrays the murder of Ahmed Al-Jumaili in Texas in Mar 2015 as an anti-Muslim hate crime.
However, it seems the killer was a gangsta black teenager.
06-06-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Bonnerific
No one should justify violence. But to try to call out one side without stating the obvious facts of violence at trump rallies committed by scared little white people who are only brave in crowds like fellow inbreds (see op, cocksucker, retard and the rest) has not only been far more prevalent but actually encouraged by the assumed new leader of the repub party is cowardly.
Congratulations on finally actually trying to contribute to the topic. Please back your claim that the violence has been far more prevalent by Trump supporters...best of luck!
06-06-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by boutons_deux
False equivalence, typical rightwingnut bullshit of "can't defend our right wing assholes, so let's pull down the non-rightwingers"
... TSA freaks out about, ridiculous lefty political dissent and/or violence, which is promoted, congratulated by which non-Repug presidential wannabe?
by which leading Dems?
06-06-2016
Mitch
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
Botox Deuce, being a moron like usual.
06-06-2016
CosmicCowboy
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Bonnerific
Lol. You are dedicated. Clinging to the brain that does your thinking.
I have no need to get drug into the mud where you exist out of fear. Incendiary rhetoric by your masters has contributed to all of these recorded incididents. But you choose to try to blur the argument about what pieces of shit you cocksucker retard etc are for being so dependent on others to think.
It's like you're running the standard "right" playbook, willfully ignore, distract, and deflect real life so the stupidest of the stupid lap it up like retarded hogs at the inbred trough. Seriously kill yourselves.
In other words, you can't back it up and are too big of a pussy to admit it.
We get it.
Tired ass Shtick.
06-06-2016
TheSanityAnnex
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
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Originally Posted by Bonnerific
Lol. You are dedicated. Clinging to the brain that does your thinking.
I have no need to get drug into the mud where you exist out of fear. Incendiary rhetoric by your masters has contributed to all of these recorded incididents. But you choose to try to blur the argument about what pieces of shit you cocksucker retard etc are for being so dependent on others to think.
It's like you're running the standard "right" playbook, willfully ignore, distract, and deflect real life so the stupidest of the stupid lap it up like retarded hogs at the inbred trough. Seriously kill yourselves.
All your tough talk and you are going to scamper away like a little bitch? You claimed that violence at Trump rallies, by Trump supporters was far more prevalent. Back your claim big guy.
"But to try to call out one side without stating the obvious facts of violence at trump rallies committed by scared little white people who are only brave in crowds like fellow inbreds (see op, cocksucker, retard and the rest) has not only been far more prevalent but actually encouraged by the assumed new leader of the repub party is cowardly."
06-06-2016
Quetzal-X
Re: Why aren't we having a National conversation about Leftist violence?
As long as the racist portion of honkeys keep swillin' n' pillin' its good all aroun for humanity tbqfh
