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Re: MEMORANDUM TO GINOBILI: WE ONLY NEEDED A 2 POINTER DUMBO.....
he didnt have to go right at the rim. has manu never taken a step back jumper from free throw line distance? i think he had a shot and didnt take it. im not doubting his competitiveness, i just think he made the play more complicated than it had to be. it was a 1 point game, there wasn't an advantage to taking a 3 over a 2
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Re: MEMORANDUM TO GINOBILI: WE ONLY NEEDED A 2 POINTER DUMBO.....
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Originally Posted by
kaji157
I donŽt get what some delusional posters are talking about here, it might be a scream for deflection if you think Ginobili should have taken this shot.
http://i67.tinypic.com/24340w4.jpg
Instead of the one he gave to mills, which was pretty fucking open.
If some posters do think Ginobili should have taken that shot then they should make a thread on how they would love Manu to take contested running floaters moving sidelines towards the rim and i would fucking laugh at it.
The play was correct, Ginobili was the only one doping the smart thing to do on that play because Green, makes a bad desition and a bad pass (the pass to mills should have been bounce and faster, or ball to Ginobili to create a 2 on 1 at the rim), then Mills gives Ginobili a shitty pass when manu was set to shoot, he has to go back to receive mills, and then Mills shots like shit.
If anyone is to blame is the team for playing so shitty all game long, but not Manu and not Aldridge individually, they were our best players.
Our Superstar played like shit, 15 million dollar man, played like shit and Duncan also, but Tim gets a pass caouse the team should not be relying on him nor Manu.
Mills takes a shot fake there...
The Spurs work on this relentlessly but it did not enter Pattys brain
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Re: MEMORANDUM TO GINOBILI: WE ONLY NEEDED A 2 POINTER DUMBO.....
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
he didnt have to go right at the rim. has manu never taken a step back jumper from free throw line distance? i think he had a shot and didnt take it. im not doubting his competitiveness, i just think he made the play more complicated than it had to be. it was a 1 point game, there wasn't an advantage to taking a 3 over a 2
No he wasnt, check the replay, receives the ball with westbrook on him (i would not like manu to shoot over westbrook), shakes him and goes inside, Kawhi idiotically clogs the paint, bringing another defender with him, along with Adams which steps up to help Westbrook instantly as Manu shakes him. Had Manu taken a step back jumper, not only very difficult, it would have been blocked by westbrook who was right behind him.
IŽll post you the moment where manu could have taken a step back, more than a step back a running off balance jumper.
Here it is.
http://i67.tinypic.com/30bmw5u.png
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i dont need a still picture, i saw the play. ginobili was dribbling from the corner towards the free throw line. he could have taken a step back jumper instead of curling towards the rim and throwing that hook pass. kawhi was already in the paint when manu started his drive. you're just making stuff up
https://i.gyazo.com/979b7124023260ac...785c74eeb8.gif
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Manu had a clear path to the winning dunk, having turned the corner on Adams, and with another Spur blocking out Ibaka.
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
i dont need a still picture, i saw the play. ginobili was dribbling from the corner towards the free throw line. he could have taken a step back jumper instead of curling towards the rim and throwing that hook pass. kawhi was already in the paint when manu started his drive. you're just making stuff up
https://i.gyazo.com/979b7124023260ac...785c74eeb8.gif
A floater woulda worked nicely. I see middle school kids making such shit
Parker woulda easily made that floater. Even Duncan woulda gone for the shot..he woulda missed the lay up :lol but at least he wouldn't have passed it to Mills :lol
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
i dont need a still picture, i saw the play. ginobili was dribbling from the corner towards the free throw line. he could have taken a step back jumper instead of curling towards the rim and throwing that hook pass. kawhi was already in the paint when manu started his drive. you're just making stuff up
He misses that "step back jumper" and now we gotta hear Fabbs for a week why he didn't pass to a wide-open Mills. Mills makes that shot and this thread doesn't exist.
The point being, Manu didn't make a bad play. He made a good play and a good decision. You can argue that doing something different was a better play, but by all means, his decision to suck the defense in and buy Patty an open look was a good play.
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ElNono
He misses that "step back jumper" and now we gotta hear Fabbs for a week why he didn't pass to a wide-open Mills. Mills makes that shot and this thread doesn't exist.
The point being, Manu didn't make a bad play. He made a good play and a good decision. You can argue that doing something different was a better play, but by all means, his decision to suck the defense in and buy Patty an open look was a good play.
Yep. In hindsight, Manu should have put it up. But he hit Mills for a decent shot. If Mills knocks it down, we're talking about Manu's greatness. Mills just missed a shot.
Looking at the video again, Adams made a great reaction to Manu's pass. He was headed to Mills almost as soon as Manu lets the ball go.
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
I thought Manu was one of the better Spurs tonight (outside the fact that Pop put him on Westbrook in the 1st half).
:lol of course
now Manu is not the reason we lost this game... we lost because we let a bunch of faggots wearing clown shirts and pants in press conference scoring 20 fucking points in 5 mn in our house... disgusting gutless worns tbh
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Originally Posted by
resistanze
They were all terrible in that sequence. First of all, they were better off just calling a timeout as clearly they had no concept of time left.
- Green with a shitty floating pass to Mills
- Manu should've really gone up in the paint
- Mills should've pump faked for a wide open shot
All terrible.
Nice summary.
I lean more towards Manu because I think he had the chance and the experience to finish the play.
How many times have Manu drive, fake a pass, then make the basket?
He had a good chance to either make the lay up off the fake pass or just straight up, or get fouled imho.
He probably just didn't trust his body.
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Shit was crazy, I didn't realize we were out of timeouts.. Also, why the fuck didn't Patty just lay it up and/or try to get fouled?
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hater
holy shit! jusst watched it again. faggot ginobilly chickened out from shooting it to the rim!!!!!
Everybody Chickened out in the fucken paint
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DJR210
Shit was crazy, I didn't realize we were out of timeouts.. Also, why the fuck didn't Patty just lay it up and/or try to get fouled?
We had a 20 sec. TO
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Wildcat67
Patty should have pumped and then jumped into Adams. Also I agree Green was the one at fault for throwing a super slow high lob which gave the defense time to get back. Should have been an easy layup. Even if he threw a lob if he would of at least thrown it towards the rim that would be something.
they were passing lazy and telgraphing every fucken pass
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Gervin44Silas13
We had a 20 sec. TO
That's fucking terrible then smh
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Re: MEMORANDUM TO GINOBILI: WE ONLY NEEDED A 2 POINTER DUMBO.....
If you play better, you don't need to steal an inbound pass and make a last-second game winning shot
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Re: MEMORANDUM TO GINOBILI: WE ONLY NEEDED A 2 POINTER DUMBO.....
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Brazil
:lol of course
now Manu is not the reason we lost this game... we lost because we let a bunch of faggots wearing clown shirts and pants in press conference scoring 20 fucking points in 5 mn in our house... disgusting gutless worns tbh
Do you see now why we needed to worry about the Memphis series? If you can't get your offense going (consistently) against a mediocre team in a series with no pressure, don't expect to magically turn it on when the stakes are higher, tbh. On this game only 3 players crossed the double figures mark. Even in last game massacre only 3 players managed to get 10pts or more, there's some serious struggle going on there offensively.
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Originally Posted by
boutons_deux
Manu had a clear path to the winning dunk, having turned the corner on Adams, and with another Spur blocking out Ibaka.
Maybe if this was 2005 son. But this is 2016 and Manu is fucking 40 years old. :lol
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Originally Posted by
spurraider21
i dont need a still picture, i saw the play. ginobili was dribbling from the corner towards the free throw line.
he could have taken a step back jumper instead of curling towards the rim and throwing that hook pass. kawhi was already in the paint when manu started his drive. you're just making stuff up
https://i.gyazo.com/979b7124023260ac...785c74eeb8.gif
So you are asking him to take a step back jumper on that situation (something Manu has never been particulary good at), with plenty of time still on the clock, instead of passing it to a wide open man that had enough time, and space, to take a very comfortable shot? :lol
If Manu would have done what you are asking here then he would have deserved the blame, and I would be here calling it, tbh.
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DAF86
Do you see now why we needed to worry about the Memphis series? If you can't get your offense going (consistently) against a mediocre team in a series with no pressure, don't expect to magically turn it on when the stakes are higher, tbh. On this game only 3 players crossed the double figures mark. Even in last game massacre only 3 players managed to get 10pts or more, there's some serious struggle going on there offensively.
I honestly don't think this is kinda related to Memphis serie tbh... Game 1 spurs were absolutely fine... this serie does not excuse the first quarter that was pathetic effortless crap, one of worst quarter I've seen this year. This was not about being cold or something but just awful laziness...
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Originally Posted by
DAF86
So you are asking him to take a step back jumper on that situation (something Manu has never been particulary good at), with plenty of time still on the clock, instead of passing it to a wide open man that had enough time, and space, to take a very comfortable shot? :lol
If Manu would have done what you are asking here then he would have deserved the blame, and I would be here calling it, tbh.
I agree tbh dat was a clean look for Mills here.... Mills was cold as fuck tho, blame also on Pop imo, I'm fine with benching parker late in the game when Mills is doing great but he was having a bad night tbh and I would certainly have preferred seen Parker taking this one tbh
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Originally Posted by
Brazil
I honestly don't think this is kinda related to Memphis serie tbh... Game 1 spurs were absolutely fine... this serie does not excuse the first quarter that was pathetic effortless crap, one of worst quarter I've seen this year. This was not about being cold or something but just awful laziness...
But the offensive problems date form much longer than the Memphis series. Nobody on this team, outside of LA and Leonard, is capable of putting semi-respectable offensive numbers on a consistent basis. And if those two don't go nuts at the same time we have no chance of breaking 100. It's really worrisome.
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DAF86
But the offensive problems date form much longer than the Memphis series. Nobody on this team, outside of LA and Leonard, is capable of putting semi-respectable offensive numbers on a consistent basis. And if those two don't go nuts at the same time we have no chance of breaking 100. It's really worrisome.
That's indeed the biggest concern, one of those two is cold and Spurs are screwed... we cannot rely on anybody to step up consistently, unfortunately, especially when we don't play at home
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spurraider21
Yeah Philo, that's a template for future successes. Idiot.
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