How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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05-03-2016
BillMc

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by TDfan2007

Gotta keep going with Timmy and hope he gives them something, but I'd go with Diaw over West as the backup. At least Diaw can handle the basketball and make things happen offensively. West just looks lost out there.

I agree. Keep going with Timmy as we need his presence on d to keep Westbrook out of the lane, and reps for Diaw are good anyway, because if we do get by OKC, Boris is probably THE cog against the Warriors.
05-03-2016
BillMc

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

Only a year ago, Timmy was our best player against the Clips. Some of it is rust (LMA now takes most of his shots) but a lot of it is age and as others said he's got two bad knees now and no lift. Only his brain, length and timing keep him still an elite defender. But offensively he's a weak link now.

Man, I hate writing that. :depressed
05-03-2016
Aggie Hoopsfan

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Pop just has to hope Duncan's fresher with the days off before Game 3. I couldn't believe all the layups he missed tonight, but I'll go down with the ship with Duncan rather than hope Marjanovic can play big minutes over him. Or worse get murdered on the glass with smallball.

That, and refs were letting Adams getting away with murder on him on the box outs. Lost track of the number of times Adams straight up mugged him. Somewhere in the late second quarter Tim got tired of looking at the refs for a call and just took it the rest of the way.

Pop shoulda taken a T on one of those shoddy takedowns to defend Tim. :td
05-03-2016
Aggie Hoopsfan

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Originally Posted by J_Paco

Yes, why the fuck didn't Pop play Kawhi extended minutes (38 - 40) with 3 days off of rest? Kawhi is a young study and needs to play big minutes just like James and Durant. Fuck the babying his minutes it's fucking playoff time, damn it!

Diaw needs to ride the pine during this series and Pop needs to go with LaMarcus (38 - 40), Tim (24 - 26), West (18 - 20) and Boban (whatever is leftover) as his big man rotation. Can't afford to have Diaw not boxing out or being lazy on the glass against one of the best rebounding teams.

Diaw is fine. Diaw and West out there together, not fine.
05-03-2016
dabom

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

That, and refs were letting Adams getting away with murder on him on the box outs. Lost track of the number of times Adams straight up mugged him. Somewhere in the late second quarter Tim got tired of looking at the refs for a call and just took it the rest of the way.

Pop shoulda taken a T on one of those shoddy takedowns to defend Tim. :td

Adams always fucking "falling" on players too. Dude fouls and falls on players to not get a call. :lol
05-03-2016
baseline bum

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

That, and refs were letting Adams getting away with murder on him on the box outs. Lost track of the number of times Adams straight up mugged him. Somewhere in the late second quarter Tim got tired of looking at the refs for a call and just took it the rest of the way.

Pop shoulda taken a T on one of those shoddy takedowns to defend Tim. :td

I thought Adams played a great game.
05-03-2016
Keepin' it real

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Only a year ago, Timmy was our best player against the Clips. Some of it is rust (LMA now takes most of his shots) but a lot of it is age and as others said he's got two bad knees now and no lift. Only his brain, length and timing keep him still an elite defender. But offensively he's a weak link now.

Man, I hate writing that. :depressed

All good things ...

But I still wear my Spurs 21 jersey proudly.

With several days rest, he must have as big a game as possible in game 3.
05-03-2016
SAGirl

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Only a year ago, Timmy was our best player against the Clips. Some of it is rust (LMA now takes most of his shots) but a lot of it is age and as others said he's got two bad knees now and no lift. Only his brain, length and timing keep him still an elite defender. But offensively he's a weak link now.

Man, I hate writing that. :depressed

I feel really sorry as he's not the same player he was even last season and that is not on LMA, same as Danny's yips on his shot were not on LMA either.

I have blamed the second knee as finally claiming him. I go back and forth between thinking he's doing a final season after this one and this being the retirement tour.

I am just hoping he can turn back the clock a little bit bc as others above said if he's this done offensively, we are probably not winning a championship after all.
05-03-2016
J_Paco

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Originally Posted by Aggie Hoopsfan

Diaw is fine. Diaw and West out there together, not fine.

Diaw is allergic to rebounding and that just isn't going to work against a frontline with quality rebounders like Kanter, Adams and to a lesser extent Ibaka.

I really miss CoJo and Baynes for this series, man. I still think the Spurs will win, but they will be exhausted afterwards.
05-03-2016
timtonymanu

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Originally Posted by TDfan2007

Gotta keep going with Timmy and hope he gives them something, but I'd go with Diaw over West as the backup. At least Diaw can handle the basketball and make things happen offensively. West just looks lost out there.

It seems like West has been the 3rd big in the rotation. Even was the case against Memphis. Pop is just probably giving Boris some extra time because they're gonna need him playing 30+ minutes against Golden State if the Spurs get there. I feel like we'll see more of him the rest of this series though.
05-03-2016
BillMc

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

I feel really sorry as he's not the same player he was even last season and that is not on LMA, same as Danny's yips on his shot were not on LMA either.

I have blamed the second knee as finally claiming him. I go back and forth between thinking he's doing a final season after this one and this being the retirement tour.

I am just hoping he can turn back the clock a little bit bc as others above said if he's this done offensively, we are probably not winning a championship after all.

Well, if we get past OKC, Timmy was never going to be a big factor against the Dubs anyway. That rests on Boris. Timmy's D, with no appreciable O, would probably be enough to beat the Cavs.

I always thought he'd continue. But I think he'll retire now, especially if we get a ring. Strangely, it is Manu who I now think could play another year. That's the reverse of what I thought before the season. Going in, I thought Manu was almost done and Timmy could go another 2 or more.
05-03-2016
spurraider21

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i'm a bit worried about Aldridge.

I'm fairly confident that he's going to keep killing them with his postgame, but part of his dominance so far has been that his jumper is falling just about every time, even the tough turnaround shots. We could run into games where the jumper isn't falling, and right now the offense is pretty reliant on him
05-03-2016
TDfan2007

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

i'm a bit worried about Aldridge.

I'm fairly confident that he's going to keep killing them with his postgame, but part of his dominance so far has been that his jumper is falling just about every time, even the tough turnaround shots. We could run into games where the jumper isn't falling, and right now the offense is pretty reliant on him

That could be offset by the rest of the team not laying a giant turd on the court...tbh.
05-03-2016
TheGreatYacht

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

i'm a bit worried about Aldridge.

I'm fairly confident that he's going to keep killing them with his postgame, but part of his dominance so far has been that his jumper is falling just about every time, even the tough turnaround shots. We could run into games where the jumper isn't falling, and right now the offense is pretty reliant on him

The offense wasn't runned thru him enough, tbh imo.

Shouldve had 30+ FGA, instead of just 21
05-03-2016
Mouth is Bleeding

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I think the LMA, Kawhi at the 5 and 4 lineups are pretty awesome so a bit more of that please. Timmy can fill in for for LMA when needed.

It also opens up for Kawhi, Green and Manu on the floor at the same time which is really good.
05-03-2016
Kawhitstorm

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

Tim has to make point blank layups, it's that simple.
05-03-2016
midnightpulp

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

i'm a bit worried about Aldridge.

I'm fairly confident that he's going to keep killing them with his postgame, but part of his dominance so far has been that his jumper is falling just about every time, even the tough turnaround shots. We could run into games where the jumper isn't falling, and right now the offense is pretty reliant on him

Yep. Huge worry here. He has to regress to the mean at some point, and when he does, Kawhi needs to pop off for a 30-35 point game. A milquetoast "solid" 22 points on 9-17 shooting or something isn't going to do it. We could say, "Well, hopefully other players step up." I just can't count on that right now. Aside from D-League's breakout in game 1, the "Committee" haven't broken out their 2 month long rut.
05-03-2016
spurraider21

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Yep. Huge worry here. He has to regress to the mean at some point, and when he does, Kawhi needs to pop off for a 30-35 point game. A milquetoast "solid" 22 points on 9-17 shooting or something isn't going to do it. We could say, "Well, hopefully other players step up." I just can't count on that right now. Aside from D-League's breakout in game 1, the "Committee" haven't broken out their 2 month long rut.

disagree there. parker/green could both score double figures. duncan can stop being a turd offensively. i know he's not a go-to guy, but he can at least finish around the rim better than he has. there are a lot of moving parts, not just aldridge/leonard
05-03-2016
YGWHI

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Kawhi needs to pop off for a 30-35 point game.

Or just keep him in the game...
05-03-2016
BillMc

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Or just keep him in the game...

Ouch! Where's my PlayKawhi alt?
05-03-2016
YGWHI

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Ouch! Where's my PlayKawhi alt?

Must find it!!! :D
05-03-2016
midnightpulp

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Or just keep him in the game...

Yes. I agree. I figuratively yelled at Pop in the game thread. 45 fuckin' minutes.

This is why I believe something was up. Pop has these numbers. He knows Kawhi is a game changer defensively (remember how bad the defense looked when he was out?) and is the only wing scorer we have. It makes no sense to play him only 36 minutes.

So Pop is either biased against Kawhi. Is senile and stupid. Or Kawhi isn't 100%. I highly doubt the first 2 reasons.
05-03-2016
BillMc

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

Must find it!!! :D

:lol
05-03-2016
YGWHI

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

So Pop is either biased against Kawhi. Is senile and stupid. Or Kawhi isn't 100%. I highly doubt the first 2 reasons.

If this was the first playoffs game that Pop rested Kawhi I could agree with you about the 3rd reason. But it wasn't.
05-03-2016
midnightpulp

Re: How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

disagree there. parker/green could both score double figures. duncan can stop being a turd offensively. i know he's not a go-to guy, but he can at least finish around the rim better than he has. there are a lot of moving parts, not just aldridge/leonard

That's the problem. Me and DMC have been criticizing the whack-a-mole philosophy for these months the role players have been shit. As I've been saying, we need that 3rd guy. Not a once-in-awhile 3rd guy, but a single 3rd scorer who consistently contributes anywhere from 10 to 20 points per game. I know the committee idea seems ideal in a vacuum. "The opponent never knows who to gameplan for!" But it just doesn't work like that.

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