How does Pop handle the bigs, going forward?

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Originally Posted by YGWHI

If this was the first playoffs game that Pop rested Kawhi I could agree with you about the 3rd reason. But it wasn't.

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We'll see what happens next game. And it better be 40-45 minutes for Kawhi. If he needs "rest," just run a few Bowen in the corner sets so he can rest in game. There's no other choice. I don't think Anderson can hang in this series right now.

smh how you Anti Bobans can say he should not have gotten more minutes last night.

I wanna see more Boban than either West or Diaw combined tbh. He works against this team when they're playing big. It's so stupid to not take advantage of imo... especially when the other guys are gonna get worked everytime.

Wasn't Kawhi in foul trouble last night?

2 fouls

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Originally Posted by midnightpulp

That's the problem. Me and DMC have been criticizing the whack-a-mole philosophy for these months the role players have been shit. As I've been saying, we need that 3rd guy. Not a once-in-awhile 3rd guy, but a single 3rd scorer who consistently contributes anywhere from 10 to 20 points per game. I know the committee idea seems ideal in a vacuum. "The opponent never knows who to gameplan for!" But it just doesn't work like that.

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we've held OKC to 98 and 92 points in the 2 games so far.

over the course of the regular season, the spurs averaged 103 ppg, with kawhi/aldridge combining for 40. we dont need them to combine for 70 to outscore OKC. the numbers over the course of the season verify that

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Originally Posted by ElNono

I'll keep Tim on Adams, tbh... he's the only guy that can really wrestle with him for rebounds...

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I agree. Adams is a beast and Tim is the only guy we got who can body him.

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

we've held OKC to 98 and 92 points in the 2 games so far.

over the course of the regular season, the spurs averaged 103 ppg, with kawhi/aldridge combining for 40. we dont need them to combine for 70 to outscore OKC. the numbers over the course of the season verify that

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Dias and West are undersized against Kanter and Adams. If Pop wants to manage TD minutes and spare him some to pair with Aldridge, he needs to promote Boban and maybe bench West unless he plays with LMA. The reason, D west isn't much of an inside presence. He got blocked or missed contested layups at the rim bc Adams just has too much size on him and Dias drove to dish to D west. I think both guys can play better but against Adams and Kanter we have no inside presence in the paint unless LMA or Boban are playing. I don't even mention TD bc he's not much of an inside presence either, but if you split TD go with TD Diaw and LMA West.

When you want to spare TD to close the game, instead of Diaw/West, see who of those two works better with Boban.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

Well, if we get past OKC, Timmy was never going to be a big factor against the Dubs anyway. That rests on Boris. Timmy's D, with no appreciable O, would probably be enough to beat the Cavs.

I always thought he'd continue. But I think he'll retire now, especially if we get a ring. Strangely, it is Manu who I now think could play another year. That's the reverse of what I thought before the season. Going in, I thought Manu was almost done and Timmy could go another 2 or more.

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If Tim goes, I bet Manu does, too. He was set to retire last year until the guys said they wanted him back.

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Originally Posted by LaMarcus Bryant

Tim is the only viable option

There's no excuse for him missing so many bunnies

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It doesn't matter how tall you are or how supposedly easy the shot is (I love how people act like all layups are created equal, as if the degree of difficulty isn't clear dependent on several factors), if it takes a beat too long to elevate and you barely can, you're going to have serious trouble finishing in this league.

He's catching it either on the short roll or they're just backing off of him on would be high lows and because Aldridge is in the paint, he's essentially running into a set Adams and Ibaka. I'd rather he attempt 1-2 dribble floaters, as opposed to attempting to finish around them.


As far as the question, West-Diaw shouldn't play another meaningful second together and Diaw should play more minutes.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Play it the same. wasn't the reason they lost.

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This. If Tim hits just one of his 4 or 5 missed layups the game has a different outcome. It isn't like Tim wasn't finding his moments, he missed shots Greg Oden could make. People are freaking out about this game when the Spurs started 2-16, as if that will happen again these playoffs.

Another horrible game for the bigs outside of Aldridge, tbh..

David West had some decent stretches in the 4th, but was horrible on defense and on the boards for the most part..

Huge concern, going forward..if the Spurs advance, Boris will have a much better matchup vs. GS(on paper, at least), but not sure what Pop can do for the rest of this series..

is there anything david west does better than diaw? i don't understand why he's getting preference. his rebounding and paint presence is non-existent in this series

He should give boban spot minutes. I don't know why he doesn't. Maybe he's to slow on D out there idk

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Originally Posted by spurraider21

is there anything david west does better than diaw? i don't understand why he's getting preference. his rebounding and paint presence is non-existent in this series

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Diaw lets Kanter push him around, meanwhile West at least puts up a fight. Unless Diaw is being a factor on offense, he's useless.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Diaw lets Kanter push him around, meanwhile West at least puts up a fight. Unless Diaw is being a factor on offense, he's useless.

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west had 2 rebounds in 25 minutes. he doesn't put up a fight

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Another horrible game for the bigs outside of Aldridge, tbh..

David West had some decent stretches in the 4th, but was horrible on defense and on the boards for the most part..

Huge concern, going forward..if the Spurs advance, Boris will have a much better matchup vs. GS(on paper, at least), but not sure what Pop can do for the rest of this series..

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A little more Duncan.
Please.

This is not GS.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Another horrible game for the bigs outside of Aldridge, tbh..

David West had some decent stretches in the 4th, but was horrible on defense and on the boards for the most part..

Huge concern, going forward..if the Spurs advance, Boris will have a much better matchup vs. GS(on paper, at least), but not sure what Pop can do for the rest of this series..

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David West is exactly like McDyess when pop brought him here. At first I was on board, and thought enforcer. Instead he's being a girl in the paint, getting out-rebounded and looking like a pylon. He plays scared and travels on moves to the basket. I don't want all the bigs to be jump shooters. I would almost rather have baynes.

Is there really not room for Timmy in this series?

These low minutes and West who isn't all that good anymore getting them, kind of depresses me.

We also know that Tim won't play against the Warriors if we come through this...

Personally I think he has been pretty good in the 1q game 1 and 3 with the starting unit. At times that was awful offensively during the regular season, but even in the nightmare start in game 2 we got good looks and defensively they've started pretty good also, as you'd expect. It's just a few times where he was exposed, but didn't West get exposed also a number of times?

It's not that West is some great mover either or can do much if the defensive system lets him down and he is faced with KD or Russ.

Once again I really wish Pop would go to Kawhi at the 4 lineups when opportune, he'll have to against GS, which would also make room for a few more Manu minutes.

Tim is doing good on Defense but Man he can't hit a bucket for the life of him. I don't know what has happened but his offense is at a zero at least try some bank shots you used to be good at. Man we where so lucky to get LMA without him we would not have made it out of the first round.

:( can't really ignore this anymore, it's the biggest issue right now..

The more I think about the more I think bonan would get the better of Adams.buut Popazit is an old army asshole who doesn't "play" rookies

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

:( can't really ignore this anymore, it's the biggest issue right now..

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Yep. The other knee is shot. A reasonably healthy Tim would probably counter Adams.

I'm worried now. Tim being this ineffective is a big, big blow. OKC has two 7 footer centers that can do damage. Without Tim, we have none.

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

Obviously Aldridge has been unstoppable, but what does he do with the others?

Duncan has been painful to watch an offense, a complete liability, tbh..West has been routinely dominated by OKC's bigs, all year..Diaw doesn't really have any exploitable mismatches against them, too..

Try Boban again? More small-ball/Kawhi at the 4? Or do you expect the minute allocation and roles to remain the same, just hoping for better performance from guys like Tim and West?

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We don't have enough 3pt shooters to spread the defense. Matt Bonner might enter the game for a few minutes to see how they respond to him hanging around the 3pt line.