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Westbrook should be on his knees begging Presti to trade him to the Spurs. Even with Westbrook there odds are Thunder are not making the playoffs. If the Spurs can keep the core of LMA, Leonard, Gasol and manage to get Westbrook they can compete with the Warriors big 4.
Portland would have been an 8th seed in east. :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Pacers actually don't look half bad now either with all their moves. Will be interesting to see what they do. Big issue they have is not being able to unload Ellis.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
Well i think its a given that a trade would only happen if he extended from Spurs FO perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Body
Isnt there something about end of September being the last chance for a team to renegotiate and extend certain players? If so, OKC leverage goes to the crapper after that deadline, since Russ turns into a rental.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
That's for rookies. The extension rules for vets are more complicated. But they aren't worth talking about. Russ isn't extending with anyone. It would cost him many millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGD
So it's risky for anyone to give up much more than a young prospect or two and a pick, maybe one genuine rotation player for salary purpose and to interest OKC? too risky. Basically a gamble, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
It's a gamble, but it's not Russian Roulette. The team that trades for him at least doubles their chances of getting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Ding Ding..Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
fair enough thanks for answering. Seems risky. To a team with a lot of roleplayers like Boston and Milwaukee, they are better positioned to be gambling at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
For Spurs, I feel like a gamble that doesn't pay off will put the team out for good, bc Spurs have already wiped out their depth the last couple of seasons. To trade picks and the guys they are hoping to develop to rebuild that depth away and then lose Russ will set us back. If they took Tony or Manu I would not have a problem. The problem is they will probably want our best roleplayers, prospects and picks. I am not comfortable with that.
Sort of, but getting his bird rights and the ability to sign him for the 5th year is a huge advantage. Despite the influx of players leaving their teams (LMA, KD, Horford) the vast majority of big FA's stay with their current team because of the financial advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Will be interesting to see what the market is for Russ. Can OKC really trade WB? Can they survive losing both KD and WB? They lost KD for nothing, so does that play into their decision? Or do you have to keep him and hope you re-sign him because trading him won't net you anything and the risk of losing him for nothing is the best choice because of the heightened chance to re-sign him.
From other teams perspective, how much do you give up for a guy you can sign outright in FA?
That's the life of a small market team living off of their incredibly good fortunes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
I do like the idea of having an entire season of Pop charming and coaching the pants off of Russell.
There's some real potential there.
See my answer above. I am not comfortable on giving up much in fact. I know that our roleplayers, prospects and picks objectively are not worth 1 Westbrook, but they are worth a lot to the Spurs subjectively. Could be as risky as making us worse within a season. I'd wait to pursue him in FA unless Russ signs an extension.Quote:
Originally Posted by DPG21920
It could work
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=j9wb2zo
http://www.si.com/nba/video/2016/07/...rade-scenarios
is this guy for real? :lol Doubt Philly would give Okafor away for Patty Mills or Fathead
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Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
If OKC really wants to stick it to the Durant, they would trade Wesbrook to SA tbh.
I bet OKC wants a team to take on Kanter's contract in order for them to trade Westbrook though. Spurs would have to probably find a third team that would be willing to take on Parker's contract. I could see OKC wanting Spurs drafts picks in 2017, 2019, and 2021 at least. All unprotected. Two of them might not matter as they would be picking at the very end for at least the next three seasons.
Could see OKC wanting Murray, Anderson and possibly even Milutinov. Six first round talents for Westbrook who may leave for nothing. OKC isn't signing anyone in free agency unless they overpay. They will have to tank for at least two seasons and hope they get lucky again.
Draft picks always matter. You can't half your team Max and then sign free agents. You have to draft and play role players, not to mention develop for the future. Look at how great Brooklyn is doing without their draft picks. Even if they had late first rounders, they would be twice the team they are now.
They need wings and 3 pts shooting really, really badly and are now getting to a kind of desperate situation with their bigs bc they have too many. It generates discord over playing time and guys games don't fit with each other. Simmons can't shoot and looks to have the ball a lot. Surely one would think they could extract a better wing from someone somewhere, maybe Otto Porter, maybe Kelly Oubre, but what other wings from the past 2 drafts look better TBH (aside of Wiggins and Lavine who are not for trade?) No doubt in Philly he would be better than Staukas for example. Him shooting that 3 has made him appealing. This is good for the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...Kvb_bigger.jpg David Pick @IAmDPick
San Antonio Spurs stash Cady Lalanne, and Willie Warren, have both signed in China with Zhejiang Banks, sources said.
Good. That's one player the team doesn't have to worry about, and it opens up a potential spot for Nnoko in camp.
Probably not the stash people wanted to hear about, though.
Eh, it's not as big of a risk as it seems. The Spurs would be opening up a max slot by making this trade, so they'd have a chance at someone like Paul or Lowery if Westbrook left. And trading for him openings up the possibility of having the MLE and being able to re-sign guys like Simmons or Gasol if it comes to that. There's utility in doing it this way rather than having to wait until next summer before just dumping those guys for nothing like they've been doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
And this all ignores that with Westbrook (especially if the team somehow kept Green), the gap between the Spurs and Warriors shrinks to almost nothing. Winning a title this season is worth any prospect the Spurs have, and I say that as a person who wouldn't trade Anderson or Murray for almost anything.
The Spurs with Westbrook next year is a team I'd likely pick over the Warriors. The Spurs would be much better balanced, plus the Warriors are pretty gutted inside. With no rim protectors Westbrook would run roughshod. I mean, I don't know what Golden State could do. and that's before his revenge factor kicking in, too.
Other than "Nope" why'd you disagree about trading LMA? You don't like the idea of what the team would be? You think it'd be a bad look for the Spurs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinook