can't believe some of the passes i'm seeing him make.
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can't believe some of the passes i'm seeing him make.
Thomas Robinson sucks :lol
I rather roll with Jarnell Stokes and Jean Charles than that bum.
I wouldn't be shocked though if Spurs have offered him a camp invite though :vomit:
David Lee signing 2-year, $3.2 million deal with Spurs
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17167348/david-lee-joining-san-antonio-spurs
Now that we have David Lee, what do we need for the last spot, hmmm???
Yi Jianlian?
Nocioni??
Rudy Fernandez??
Or perhaps bring back Andre Miller??
Or someone from the d league?
Or Bryn Forbes??
WHO DO YOU THINK GUYS, IS BEST FOR OUR LAST SPOT?
I loved Andre Miller but he will be 41, personally I'd take Forbes.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
Im ok with Forbes, too.....
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Originally Posted by cutewizard
Good insurance for the price.
Spurs are likely going to go 3 deep in the front-court when it matters ( playoffs, or close games) anyways -- if matchups stay equal and don't go small.
People forget, there's still only 96 minutes in the front-court in a game -- sometimes a lot less with todays NBA when teams go small. This year will be the first year since the 97-99' years where Spurs have two big men able to play 28-30+ minutes per game. The minutes per game may be less in the end if Spurs blow out a lot of teams , but in competitive games, Spurs will play Aldridge 35-38 minutes per game, Pau 28-32, Dedmon 18-22. That leaves only 10-12 mpg for Small ball PF ( Kawhi) or Anderson/Lee.
Its crazy to think that TD played w/18-22 mpg role playing bigs next to him for 15 straight years after Robinson hurt his back in 01'. That's why depth was pretty important during those years. This year, the depth in the front-court is nice in case of injury, but if everyone stays healthy, depth won't be needed as much as it has been.
It's going to be very interesting this year to see the Lee/Anderson competition at the back up PF, and the Bertans/Simmons competition for the wing minutes around Manu off the bench. Sure against the JV teams, everyone will get time during blow outs or during roadtrips w/ back to backs or 3 games in 5 nights, but what matters is the rotation come playoff time. Then, there will be little amount of minutes for the Lee, Anderson, Bertans, Simmons cluster. If teams is healthy, at most only two out of that cluster will carve out a type of role in the playoffs.
Now imagine if GOAT Duncan suddenly returns after the Alll-Star break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wtf!!! lol!!!!
He can't play with us at all for the whole 16/17 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/David-Lee-87/
Overview: An extremely productive lefty power forward who makes an impact with his hustle, smarts and athleticism. One of the better rebounders in the league. Has adequate size and length for the power forward position, at 6-9 in shoes with a 7-foot wingspan. Pretty strong as well, and has the frame to get bigger. Possesses great leaping ability, and a quick second leap. Runs well for his position. Doesn’t offer much in the way of perimeter skills. Gets the job done underneath with hustle and rebounding. Relentlessly cleans the glass. Brings a lot of energy to the defensive end. Has always been a hardworking player with great athleticism. Had a nice four year career at Florida, and was one of the most efficient players in college basketball during his time there. Was a pleasant surprise as a rookie and has become a solid contributor. Still has some upside, and needs to develop his midrange jumper. Not an ideal cornerstone by any means, but the kind of player that coaches love and any franchise would be happy to have. A huge steal for the Knicks as the last pick in the 1st round.
Offense: The epitome of a hustle player offensively. Very smart player who is a good passer and extremely unselfish. Very sound on the offensive end. Doesn’t need plays called for his to score, and will put up numbers with extremely high efficiency. Gets almost all of his touches by working hard outside of a few touches with his back to the basket every game. Moves extremely well without the ball, making room for his teammates to drive and filling gaps for easy baskets. A fantastic finisher around the basket thanks to the quickness in which he gets off his feet. Does a great job cleaning the offensive glass, always pursuing the ball off the rim. Terrific on the pick and roll-- sets very solid screens and rolls hard to the basket. Runs the floor extremely well for a player his size. Does everything you look for from a hustle player, but also has a nice skill set to go along with it. Will get some opportunities in the post, and loves to face up. Has no trouble getting off his jumper when he turns to face and has the quickness to get by many power forwards. Not an amazing ball-handler, but is crafty enough to know how to get to the rim and finish. Isn’t afraid to take contact, and shoots a great percentage from the line. Not an ideal catch and shoot player, but is able to make some shots from 15 feet and in. Could still stand to work on his right hand, but shows a willingness to work over his left shoulder. Won’t try to force passes and doesn’t turn the ball over very often for that reason. Becoming a better shooter from the perimeter could help him become even more prolific offensively.
Chris Gatling.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
How much do you think that Lee sign will affect Kyle's playing time?Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Most people say he would have minutes as SF backup and take Boris minutes at PF, but with Lee that scenario has changed, right?
Not sure exactly. It probably does affect him but it's difficult to say by how much, and maybe not that much provided he comes out balling. It's really on him at this point to be aggressive with his game. If he dominates Lee like he dominated Vonleh, Trey Lyles, and crew in Summer League, I don't think he would need to worry about his playing time at this point. Lee will just present a challenge and help him get better. After all, there are more challenging players around the league than Lee, who he will need to face every night. Dominating Lee should just be the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
For Lee, the question is how did they sell him to come in here to compete with kyle like this? It doesn't sound too appealing. Pop probably sold him on the culture, mentoring 3 forwards aged 23-24 in LJC, KA, and DB, the only one who is slotted to play with some certainty being Kyle, but he's a versatile player that Pop already slides within 3 other positions depending on what other injuries there are in the roster or guys getting rested, and if he slides to a different spot to cover for someone the Spurs need Lee or somebody. Then on top of that Pau is likely to get rested, Dedmon is somewhat raw himself, he's a late bloomer who started playing late in his life, and there are injuries within a season inevitably. So even with Kyle getting minutes as a 4, Pop probably sold Lee on the fact they would still find him playing time, and it's true.
The other issue concerns not Kyle, but what about at least Simmons or Bertans providing that depth in the wings so that Pop doesn't need to slide Kyle in spots anymore? The answer is simple: those guys have to earn it too and they haven't yet. So ultimately Lee provides the depth, and the challenge for all these guys to compete and get better and they have to come out balling and earn it.
In terms of roster fit, Lee and Dedmon are not exactly good together, both are roll men who play in the paint and will need to play with shooters to be able to play their games, so depth and all, to fit Lee Pop will need to tweak things around. Kyle is the more seamless fit, and after that Bertans.
I'm so excited about this next season but scared at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
Pop'll love to play mad scientist all season. With so many new guys and the need to develop young players, no one should blame him after all.
Spurs frontline is built like the 2000 Blazers:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres
-Sabonis: Pau (25 MPG)
-Sheed: LMA (35 MPG)
-Grant: Lee (21 MPG)
-JO: Dedmon (12 MPG)
-Pippen: Kawhi (33 MPG)
-Schrempf: Bertans (21 MPG)
-Bonzi: Kyle (17 MPG)
The main difference is that Sabonis was a 20-25 minute guy like Bogut & Schrempf was a proven rotation player.
if Lee, as supposed to be, is gonna be our small ball center, it's easy to see one ofb the two non guaranteed staying depending og the more emerging need come tc time.
so starting line up: Parker - Green - Leonard - Alridge - Gasol
second unit: Manu - Mills - Anderson - Bertans - Dedmon
third unit: Murray - Forbes - Simmons - LJC - Lee
(Arcidiacono) (Murray)
No the main difference is that the 2016/2017 Spurs have entirely different players than the 2000 Blazers. I don't see the comparison or why that is even relevant to my notion. ( I was talking about the playoff rotation).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
When it matters (playoffs)-- if lineups of opposition stay true and don't go small, it will be:
Center: Pau (28-32 mpg)/ Dedmon (17-20)
Power Forward: Aldridge (35-38)/ Lee, Anderson, or Kawhi (6-16mpg).
Overall for the whole season, including blowouts, 2nd of Back to backs, or 3rd game in 5 nights or times bench gets a lot of run -- minutes will increase more for the bench players. Why do people care about the minutes when it doesn't really matter? I'm strictly talking about when it matters -- the playoffs -- Lee, Bertans and Anderson won't play 21 mpg, 21 mpg, and 17 mpg in the Playoffs. That's absurd.
...we have to consider that some of our roster will play in rio...and that could mean that, at least at the beginning of the season, there will be very good chanches for our young players to show how reliable they can be.
Parker, Manu, Mills, Gasol will need time to rest and then be back in shape...and that probably means that Murray, KA, Bertans, Simmons and Deadmon (aka our young guns) will be tested with good amount of minutes. I agree that playoffs is a different kind of game, but we have probably no other chance of success than try to sort out some kind of real contribution for the post season from at least three of them...
If only. That team was stacked. Totally robbed by the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
I think Bertans will be a surprise
Exactly how I see it. While certain players may be unproven, this is a pretty deep team, potentially of course. We have a good balance of facilitators and shooters on each string. Very versatile with lineups so there will be plenty of options to mix and match.Quote:
Originally Posted by venitian navigator