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This had to have been sanctioned by Popovich, right? I've never seen an express news article critical of a player currently on the roster.
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/co...witter-premium
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The same Kawhi Leonard who displayed his MVP-caliber status in the series opener looked like he did a year ago. He went back in time, to the final games of the Clippers series, lifeless and out of rhythm. He scored one bucket in the fourth quarter, when two would have won the game.
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Eh, he's a star player now, he didn't show up down the stretch of game 2, tbh, he deserves blame for it..it comes with the territory of being a star, he's going to finish #2 or 3 in MVP voting, he has to play like it..
Maybe the referees are in his head
Matt Barnes left his scent at the ATT Center. That has to be it
Ive said before in order for me to call Kawhi Leonard a "Superstar" i would need to see him take over a playoff game and/or series. As Lamarcus Aldridge has done thus far.
Not a bad article overall.
Nothing wrong with the article. Kawhi deserves criticism for that performance now that he's the best player on the team. He needs to show up big in OKC or he'll be criticized more, comes with the territory.
Also, good to see the local media nut up and write a genuine article. It's not like it was a "Mr. Unreliable" scenario tbh.
Kinda would be nice to see an article on Pop's terrible coaching in that game too.
Yeah, Pop and Kawhi both deserve the brunt of the criticism. Unfortunately most of the media thinks Pop is infallible.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
:lol you could kidnap the kids of all SA media members and tell them you'll release them if they write an anti-Pop article, and they still wouldn't do it, tbh..Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
Yep, as Harlem said, it comes with his new-found status...It is on him, he is not a role player anymore..In past even when the Spurs lost, TD came down swinging in elimination games with few legendary performances going to waste..You can always count on Duncan monster 30pts/15 reb even if the rest of the team came up short..
Yep...Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
this. I'd love to see it, just because he glowers at them like an asshole when he deserves blame too.Quote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
True. :lol One of Pop's most frustrating games. The other time was last year when he did Hack a Jordan when the Spurs were up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
The thing I noticed with Kawhi last game (and it could be every game he under performs) is when he catches the ball he lets the defender get in position before making a move. If the dude would just make his move as soon as he gets the ball, he'd get whatever he wants. There's literally a few people in the NBA who could stop him ( and he is one of them) Yeah but there is definitely no excuse for coming up short when fucking Dion Waiters is guarding you.. Dude better come to play Friday!
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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
Yep. As I said in the other thread, these are defining games. Can't live off "King Killer" status forever. It's time to kill the league's other stars now. Durant, Westbrook, and go head-to-head with Wardell or shit on Raymond if we get that far.
I want it badly for him. I really do. But there's just something that nags me about his offensive skill-set. I think it's the over-reliance on the mid-post/mid-range and the lack of a top flight dribble-drive/off the dribble game. Kawhi has indeed exceeded my expectations offensively. I thought he'd top out as an 18-20ppg guy, but can he reach that next level? The kind of level that when everyone is scared shitless, Kawhi wills the team with a 35-40 point effort, like vintage Duncan used to do, or even like LMA is doing now?
^Faggot postQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Kawhi is a max player and should be criticized if warranted.
Buck knows he can't criticize Pop's bad choices in game. He knows how hard it would be to find work in print media when he gets Kevin O'Keefe'd.
Exactly, I mean it's great that we have Pop, but I roll my eyes every time I hear him called a coaching genius. He's been fucking out-coached by some shitty ass coaches before.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
Yep. I said something similar a few weeks ago after one of the Goldenstate games. Kawhi needs to be much better offensively and more consistent with the game on the line for me to call him a true superstar. I recall in some losses where Tim's teammates didn't show up, he'd have something like 30 and 15, and then still take the blame for the loss. Kawhi's nowhere near that. He needs to step up big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
Sure, he's a great all around player (it's the only reason he's in the top 2-5 range right now IMO), but that doesn't mean you're a superstar if you can't do it on the offensive end when the pressure to perform is on. If it were only based on his current offensive game and disappearance acts, he's not a top 5 player. He needs to get more aggressive and get to the rim and start taking over. No more of settling for those silly jump shots all the time. He really needs to mix it up like LaMarcus is doing. Go both inside and outside and stop settling for jumpers. If his jumper is not on, he needs to learn to get to the rim and finish. Mix it up and get more aggressive mentally. Stop checking out.
I mean he is a coaching genius and a top 3 coach of all-time...but that doesn't mean the guy never fucks up and shouldn't be called out on it when he does. If any other coach trotted out that bullshit lineup Pop did to start the 4th, the media would jump their ass and point to that as a main reason the team lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
It's Pop's stubbornness that gets him into trouble. Everyone could tell right away that lineup was shit, but yet he kept it going way too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
I said this in another topic, but what amazes me the most is how he even doubled down on the ridiculousness. After LMA/Kawhi got us all the momentum and got it to a 1-point game going into the 4th, he goes to a Mills/Manu/Green/Diaw/West lineup. Alright, fine, whatever. Then OKC immediately comes out and builds their lead back again, and then what does Pop do? Brings in fucking Kyle Anderson and subs out Manu :lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
And Pop will keep on pounding that rock. It's always been his philosophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Budkin
He's still not the best offensive player on the team. LMA is, and the smart thing for the team to do is to pass him the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mugen
If he was playing in NY, that would be considered a fluff piece.
was hardly any passin, weaves, slashes or motion!
Was alota ISO & dump downs!
No it is not good to blame Kawhi for the loss. 18 for 47 38% from the rest of the team beside Aldridge, Leonard, and MANUUUUUUU..
NOT NO BUT HELL NO it wasn't Kawhi's fault. Buck Harvey was looking for someone big to blame and choose Kawhi when he should have looked at Duncan, Parker, Green and the bench.
I really think that lineup cost us the game. We were down 1 with all the momentum and that lineup took it to 11 I think. (Maybe 9?) One of Kawhi or LMA must be on the court at all times. I'm worried Kawhi's relatively low minutes for a 24 year old means Pop's protecting him from aggravating some injury. Either that, or the price of his great defense, is more rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
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Originally Posted by BillMc
Not just his low minutes - his low energy. I said it in the game thread, it looked like one of those games where you find out later he had flu or something. But they don't want to make excuses, so they don't say anything till the season is over.
I don't doubt Kawhi's heart, or his motivation. So I have to think it was something else. There's no doubt that if the Spurs have Kawhi as his normal self, that game looks a lot different. People can be defensive or butthurt al they want, but that didn't look like the Kawhi we are used to seeing. And not just because shots didn't fall.
Well, if it was a flu or anything relatively temporary like that, the long delay between Games 2 and 3 might be a blessing in disguise. (Though I don't want LMA to cool off...)Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
Maybe Kawhi went to the dentist again? :D
No they don't. They just know the history of criticizing Pop, how it affects access privileges and even jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
Kawhi is basically '07-'08 KG status who was the best two-way player in the league (finished 3rd in MVP behind CP3/Kirby) but not necessarily even the best offensive player on his own team. The OKC matchup is similar to what KG faced in the 2008 Finals when he had to deal w/ Pau/Odom w/ help from Perkins just as Kawhi has to deal w/ KD/WB w/ help from Danny.Quote:
Originally Posted by spursistan
In the '08 Finals, KG's offense suffered but Ray Allen went nuclear just like LMA is going nuclear against OKC. The difference was that the Celtics had a point-forward in Pierce meanwhile the Spurs have 38 year old Manu as their best playmaker.:lol Otherwise, Tim/Tony/Danny/West/Patty/Diaw are basically Perk/Rondo/Posey/PJ/House/Powe.
That's called being indecisive, when Kahwi is locked-in he usually starts the game with a strong move to the basket instead of settling for jumpers. There have been couple of occasions where Kawhi got a dunk on his opening possession & dominated the game thereafter.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
Kawhi is the Klay Thompson of the Spurs. He's fine as long as he's the second fiddle but struggles when he's the main guy. He had the Big Three early in his career and now Aldridge. He's still young and hopefully he can overcome his shortcomings. But I don't think he can main a franchise player. One that opposing teams set their defense against. It looks like Aldridge may have to fulfill that role for next several years
Others have mentioned it, and it's something I worried about from game 1, is if Kawhi aggravated something with that early dunk and fall. He seemed like he didn't want to go full blast in game 2. Hopefully Kawhi will be fine and heal up with the time off, whatever it may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
Kawhi has one bad game and people are jumping on him as if he's Derozan or Lowry. Bad games happen, if it becomes more than a 1 or 2 game thing then it's an issue.
When you lose by a couple points, it's not the coaching. It's who wanted it more from the players. Always has been.
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Originally Posted by Mnky
Actually, when you lose by a couple of points then it's most likely the coaches fault. On the other hand, if the team gets blownout then the players are to blame.
Durant had a 7-33 game against the Mavs so it does happen, the only issue was that he kept settling for jumpers instead of putting his head down & driving to the rack.Quote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
Bold this man.Quote:
Originally Posted by maverick1948
Lol. Stfu cocksucker. There are 2 sides of the ball. What do the current great offensive players have to show for it? KD and Harden been stacking them rings huh? I oughta find you kick your ass for being so fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
What shortcomings? Please name a more complete player in the NBA.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongtimeSpursFan
Bold a man that wants to blame a 40 year old for the loss? Bold pink, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
he never hasQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
crumbles in big gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
is it possible that Kawhi is not that good?
dont take me wrong, Kawhi is the best defender on Earth, one-on-one,
yet there are many intangibles to being a superstar:
One, leadership and presence in crucial moments (Duncan and Manu have this, like the all-time greats)
Two, the ability to make his teammates better (i do not know if Kawhi has this in great amounts)
Three, Offensive execution in clutch moments (well, Kawhi has done it once or twice; MJ and Bird do it regularly)
Four, the ability to diagnose the tempo of a game and influence it accordingly (again, I do not know if Kawhi has this)
Fifth, consistency and the ability to maintain his greatness over long periods (which our boy sadly lack)
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having said that.....hmmmm.....we still believe!
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Originally Posted by LongtimeSpursFan
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im one of those who keep repeating.....
LAMARCUS IS OUR ALPHA, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT....
no debate here......
Kawhi was 7-18 last game...Can't imagine this forum if he had 7-33 :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
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Originally Posted by Ice009
If something has shown this series if how much Kawhi improved his driving, he showed strong moves to the rim...But not sure if the team is designed for that.Quote:
the only issue was that he kept settling for jumpers instead of putting his head down & driving to the rack.
Look where is LMA and the other big, where is Parker...when Kawhi has the ball. It's not like the team is giving him the space or calling plays for him to attack the rim.
Agree with you, he wouldn't set for jumpers that often if those shots aren't falling...but he can't drive very often either, not if the team don't play for those drives.
Stop trolling :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LongtimeSpursFan
Thompson struggled in the Finals, Kawhi played two Finals and some of those games were his best playoffs performances. 2013 defensively, 2014 on both ends.
Remember when you said he coudn't be the leading scorer on a good team? Well, he was that guy on the Spurs historic-best- regular-season team.
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Originally Posted by xtremesteven33
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Originally Posted by midnightpulp
Like Kawhi never took over a pressure-close game in playoffs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
Just look his game 3 in Memphis, the only game of the series the Grizz could compete (96-87). Yep, just a poor team but with the best 2nd/3rd perimter defender in the league on Kawhi.
LMA 16 points, Parker 2 points (1-8), Patty 4 points (1-5), nothing worked well...except Kawhi, who was making shots from every spot on the floor in the 4th quarter.
32 points 5 blocks 4 steals sounds a big-time performance in playoffs
If he can have this type of games consistently...Next years we'll know it. This was the first season for him being the main guy and he has not reached his prime yet.
Exactly. For all the "get over yourself" talk, Pop runs the local media like Stalin.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMC
Problem is our media is too fucken nice, they dont want to be critical of OUR SPURS.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
Tough shit....maybe if the media did this theyed grow a few balls and play better!!!!!
He's too Fucken quite boy needs to grow a few balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
When you lose at home and you the MVP of your team. And you played mediocre or worse. It's on you.
This was the most frustrating/head scratching moment of the night for me. The refs suck, but that can't be controlled by the Spurs. This move should never have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
Just wanna say, Kawhi took a horrible 3pt shot with the game on the line.
I'm not sure what he wast thinking.
I think this needs to be given consideration. He kind of looks frustrated when he starts being aggressive but he doesn't get calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
He might be mentally affected and favoring more the jumpers or passes to try to help instead of just missing or losing the ball, or become indecisive.
SAEN's own "Mr Unreliable".
Ideally, Kawhi just need to go bonkers and take over the series on both ends of the court.
In reality, he's still a developing player and as much as I would like him to take over, my expectation is much lower.
This, the article is well written and deserving, you can blame Pop, or Manu, or Parker, but at the end of the day if you are the MVP and couldnīt crack 20 points against Waiters (or Barnes for the matter) then itīs on you first and then the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by hater
The thing about the refs being on their head is ridiculous, Ginobili didnīt earn refs respect right away, Parker didnīt either, maybe Duncan did, i am not sure, but big men usually also have trouble getting calls.
The refs excuse is just that, and excuse.
If Kawhi continues to play like this the Spurs wonīt be able to beat Okc, simple as that, even if Pop becomes a genius coach, Aldridge gets on fire, or Manu makes all the correct plays, when a 20 shot players shits the bed on consistent basis you are done as a team.
True. Wanker is overratedQuote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
Taking 18 shots and only 2 FTs is a problem..
That has zero chance of happening. And no. When he got MvP trophy in that final series our entire team was playing lights out. Kawhi never carried a team through a seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by ceperez
We all know how good Kawhi can be. It's infuriating when he doesn't play to his potential.
I hate the Spurs' offense. It's ugly. When the Spurs shared the ball via The Beautiful Game, they were almost unstoppable. I'm fine with the team taking less 3 pointers and moving toward more of a mid-range scoring team.
HOWEVER - They still need to move the ball to create open shots. This team isn't there right now. Relying on 1 player like they did in the last game is not a recipe for success. Kawhi needs to be involved, LA needs to remain a threat but the back court needs to get more involved to keep defenses honest. When you rely on 1 or 2 players for offense, you become stagnant, predictable and teammates become less accountable. There is less ownership on the court from the other guys and then nobody steps up because they don't feel comfortable doing so.
My hope is that the team shares the ball but doesn't over-pass. If LA doesn't get the ball down low, I hope he's ready to grab a rebound. Tim needs to at least pretend to be an offensive threat. In these playoffs he has received the ball and then immediately looked to pass.
How many balls do you think he should have?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gervin44Silas13
Not sure, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
The biggest thing holding Kawhi back on the offensive end (besides his lack of killer instinct) is his lack of handles. The same big hands that make him a great defender are a liability when he puts the ball on the floor. He just does not have confidence in his dribble and it shows. If you think about it, Kawhi's best historic offensive plays are of the catch-and-shoot variety or throw-down dunks when he's unimpeded to the basket or is already there when he gets the ball.
Memphis was a lottery team. As good as Kawhi was in that series, there was no pressure. The series was a foregone conclusion. And as I said, he can't live off the 2014 Finals forever. Time to add to his legacy.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
What I want is a Duncan '03, game 6 in LA against the Lakers type of performance. A complete takeover on both ends that just kills the other team mentally. And as I also said, doesn't need to necessarily drop 40. Just give us a "Kawhi game," 25 points on efficient shooting, 8-10 boards, 4 dimes, 3 steals, 2 blocks, and hold Durant/Westbrook in check when he's on them.
Durant called him a system player. Waiters is saying the Spurs are a one man team. Kawhi has all the incentive to shut their asses up for good. These are defining games coming up. Games in which superstars step up and deliver.
Does Anyone suspect Kawhi Leonard of maybe being hurt with his hamstring, after the fall on the 1st play of the game. He didnt look that spry in gm 2.. And not being able to beat his man off the dribble like he normally can.. Would explain his shot misses among other things.. I do not want to short change Roberson or Waiters, but they are not type flight defenders who should be able to contain KL.. Anyways let me know if anyone had the same thought.. I hadn't seen it reported or written anywhere.
lol. I will smash you head to a pulp. You've got no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by RD2191
Now that we have the pleasantries out of the way - the main reason Jordan, Hakeem, TD, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron are considered superstars is because of what they do/did on the offensive side of the ball. If they played zero defense, they'd still be superstars and that is because they carry their team offensively and usually come though in the 4th quarter when their teams needed the points. You don't have to be a super defender and offensive player to be a superstar, but you do need to be good on offense if you're going to carry your team to wins.
Come on man, Memphis was barely a threat to win one game. He needs to do that against the elite teams like Tim and Manu used to do routinely. One good game against a team that was too injured to compete in the playoffs is not something to base an argument on.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Exactly. Before Waiters said that quote, he probably had Kevin Durant telling him in the locker room that yeah, Kawhi is still a system player. This is Kawhi's chance to prove that he isn't and shut them up. He really needs to step up here and now. If he wants it as bad as he says that he does, then he needs to be totally locked in and very aggressive mentally with a take no prisoners attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnightpulp
I thought this. And if it were minor enough, the Spurs would likely keep it inhouse. Hopefully this time off will help, if there is such an injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBears
Well I do have the same thought. Overall he played great in game one but it's the adrenaline thing tbh. Then Pop played him pretty carefully and limit his minutes as much as he could. Idk if it's truth but that was not a good game by leo that game 2. Let's see if those 3 days off gets him rollin.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBears
nah dude he's come along way with his handles. It's his mindset. He'd rather dance one on one with the defender and take a midrange j rather than use his handle to get past the defender. We see it all the time. He seems to bail out the defender with a quick J.Quote:
Originally Posted by EIC
Yet, I still want him to play smart basketball. An egomaniac like Kirby would come out and stupidly try to score 50 and probably shoot his team out the game. But when the opportunities are there, he needs to attack. Don't settle. And make Durant's and Westbrook's life hell. I would actually be okay with 20ish points from him on like 8-17 shooting if he totally destroyed one of those on the defensive end (I'm talking annihilation, like holding KD to 5-25 shooting. Kawhi won't need to score 30 if KD puts up that line). But still, there will come a time when we need his scoring, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
I am hoping the rest will refresh him & heal minor injuries if any are there.. I did notice Pop had him sitting on the pine more than normal..Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Pop doesn't mess around with injuries. If he thought Leonard had something (hammy especially) he'd sit him 2 weeks minimum. Besides, Leonard was on the bench for long periods of time. I never saw him leave the bench so he didn't get loose on a bike. I didn't notice a heating pad either. Is it possible Leonard is keeping it from the team? Or it's sore and he didn't trust pushing off it? I don't know. Game 3 should be more telling.
Honestly, Pop sees these players more than anybody. I would assume he would know if someone doesn't look themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by loveforthegame
That's kind of true. But just compare his handles to just year, vastly improved. They've gone from bad, to mediocre, to pretty good, and,sometimes, they're excellent, like the time he crossed Durant the fuck up. The more reps, the better he becomes at it. He's like a machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by EIC
Agreed. That's why I don't think Leonard is injured like some are wondering about. Pop doesn't mess around. If anything, he can be overly cautious about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
Kawhi doesn't have the explosive athleticism to drive and make split second adjustments on drives to the bucket, especially after contact. He does have the occasional extend his arm out of reach from the defender. But if it's not clear path, he tends back away, or easily get bumped off his path. He also doesn't have explosive vertical lift to jump over guys.
Yes there are occasional plays were it all line up perfectly for something spectacular like the Ibaka dunk in 14, but it's not a regular thing.
So he's caught between this athletic, not quite athletic enough game.
This could be and it's getting worse and I lost count how many and 1's he should've had. Wish Pop would pull a phil jackson and say something in the post game but we know that's not happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Hes gotta be Duncanesque....Period...take over a game!!!
LMA did......
There is no doubt we will need more than just LMA to show up in the next game.. KL & TP to me will need to be big factors in the scoring side if spurs are to hope to pull 1 out in OKC. LMA will not be able to carry the entire load in tomorrows game. And i expect them to play much better as a whole than in the last game.
I watched those sequences again, including the group that finished the third. They made a come back bc Donovan put out his own shitty line-up with Kanter as center and Durant as a 4, and he played rookie Payne who had a TO and was terrible. LMA murdered them bc they didn't have rim protection and it just so happen that Patty made his last jumpshot of the game in that stretch too. Donovan was ready to sub in Adams bc of his own shitty line-up when he realized his mistake, but there wasn't a dead ball. Advantage:Pop.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursFan86
However, to start the 4th Donovan returned with a legit lineup this time with Adams, Kanter, Durant, Roberson and Waiters. This obviously is a line-up with a lot of size, and yet Pop puts out his smallest line-up with Diaw/West/Danny/Manu/Patty. Blunder:Pop. At times Patty ended up taking very ill advised contested shots while guarded by Durant! that he missed bc of course. Of course they struggled. They had no dominant player against that group to get anyone free. I don't think they managed a single good look in 3 minutes.
Diaw refused to shoot open 3s he got and D west was not an inside presence. He missed everything he tried including getting blocked by Kanter. Anderson played only 30 seconds. He was obviously there I think bc it was prescheduled, but it was ill advised to start the 4th with that line-up to begin with and I hope Pop learned his lesson.
Now, LMA had played the entire 3rd Q and it made sense for Pop to rest him. Looking back on it he was as the only player keeping this team in the game. You can look at it as just him sitting down to start the 4th was the most impactful event in that run by OKC bc Kawhi was invisible in the 4th Q. Maybe Pop should have played Kawhi those 3 minutes with the bench instead of Danny/Anderson and called post ups for him or something to both keep his aggressiveness going and help that line-up out to score.
I hope Pop learned his lesson. I think he will need to manage minutes to both separate Diaw/West against Kanter/Adams (maybe Boban gets a few minutes or TD with the bench) and that maybe he needs to bolster the bench with Kawhi, keeping at least one of LMA or Kawhi in the game. It will mean either some guys will play a lot more minutes or he will have to mix and match lineups more than he has and spare the SL to start, close games and key moments in the game.
We shall see. I agree Pop's time management wasn't the best, but it is a challenge bc Timmy is old and can't be overplayed. D west and Diaw were already at 10 and 8 minutes respectively. Boban played 3, LMA played 42. I think Bogan can play more with the bench specially when Westbrook is resting. One of Diaw/West will either give up minutes or be mixed in with TD and LMA more and you keep LMA/TD lineups for key moments in the game.
For the perimeter rotation, Kawhi can play more. Anderson only played 5 minutes and those can be absorbed by Kawhi easily. It depends if Pop is ready to do that, but for sure Pop cannot sub Anderson in with units that are already challenged offensively like the one he put out in the 4th Q.
Buck is a hack. any chance he has to publicly ridicule a Spurs player he does. it's either a defense to not seem bias or he secretly dislikes them all. he's bogus.
It was 7 points. When they were all subbed out the game was 83-76. Still the lineup was awful and it would have gotten worse without Pop's intervention at that point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
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Originally Posted by SAGirl
Hopefully Pop will learn from his shitty as subsitiutions if not we are gonna be done for and the 67 wins this year won mean shit....it would be a wasted season
He definitely came out sleepwalking that is why Pop sat him out initially, he wasn't engaged on defense. Also he kept letting Westbrook switch off easily with LMA. Sure Westbrook didn't score against him but when it was so easy to get clear of him I hardly call that top defensive effort from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GSH
:pop: False. System overcomes all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gervin44Silas13
:pop: It's just basketball.
Cheers thanks for the clarification.:toast Well, it felt worse than seven.Quote:
Originally Posted by SAGirl
All good points. He's still young and just had his coming out party as the main guy this season. We had a great record but greatness is established in the postseason and this is where he's at. He's still got chances bc season isn't over.Quote:
Originally Posted by cutewizard
I believe too.:flag:
:pop: They made some shots :lmao..Quote:
Originally Posted by UZER
I remember a play where he scored on a hand off from LMA b/c Ibaka was glued to LMA, Pop should be calling more dribble hand-off if LMA's defender going to stay glued instead of trying to bump the cutter at the mere threat of him shooting an uncontested jumper. They could also run HIGH PnRs but Pop has refused to breakout the Kawhi/LMA PnR.Quote:
Originally Posted by YGWHI
Kawhi is also adept at catching his defender sleeping or off balance then slashing to the rim.
Im sure pop calls a play every time down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
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Originally Posted by maverick1948
Comes with the territory of a max contract. You want the money, be prepared to get ripped if you don't. Leonard was terrible. Period.
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Originally Posted by NameLess Scrub
Yeah that kick out from Aldridge to Kawhi and that three pointer was one of the worst shots I've ever seen him take. Just horrible.
Coachs job is to put the players in a position to win. When you lose by one, you're obviously in a position to win. Execution is on the players. You don't play much, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm