mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work

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Originally Posted by Robz4000

Was gonna say the same thing. Only problem is if that happens then Diaw is the one getting moved and I'm not sure Tony would take that well.

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Well then he can join him so we can add Conley to the squad.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

With Ish Smith as the starting PG and a bunch of adolescent bigs, Philly might value a veteran PG with Tony's championship pedigree.

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That would be ideal and would also make sense for the Sixers. However, isn't that the ultimate fuck you to Parker? Of course it works out perfectly for the Spurs but not exactly the ride into the sunset that Parker would want. Going from first to worst he might just say fuck y'all and retire which obviously would also workout beautifully for the Spurs. It's not like Parker wasn't the subject of annual trade talk around the deadline in years past. Just a sour note to an otherwise all time Spurs great's career. It is a business we all realize that it's just not the way the Spurs do business at least not recently. Some of the older heads might compare this to trading Gervin? I wouldn't know.

I'm afraid fragile-minded Green will let these rumors affect his play the more serious they get.

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Originally Posted by Leetonidas

definitely. I mean green, diaw, and mills are all good players but imo if the Spurs legit have an opportunity to put KD/KL/LMA on the same team you do it and worry about everything else later.

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Well, that's what other teams do. The Spurs are smarter than that.

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Originally Posted by south side spur

That would be ideal and would also make sense for the Sixers. However, isn't that the ultimate fuck you to Parker? Of course it works out perfectly for the Spurs but not exactly the ride into the sunset that Parker would want. Going from first to worst he might just say fuck y'all and retire which obviously would also workout beautifully for the Spurs. It's not like Parker wasn't the subject of annual trade talk around the deadline in years past. Just a sour note to an otherwise all time Spurs great's career. It is a business we all realize that it's just not the way the Spurs do business at least not recently. Some of the older heads might compare this to trading Gervin? I wouldn't know.

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I admit, that is a nasty scenario from Tony's perspective. Not sure that the Spurs would do that to him. On the other hand, doesn't loyalty to team trump loyalty to any individual player?

Besides, Robz was talking about sending him to Sactown! Isn't that worse? Although, if Rondo bolts, which seems probable, then Sactown might also value a PG with Tony's pedigree.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I admit, that is a nasty scenario from Tony's perspective. Not sure that the Spurs would do that to him. On the other hand, doesn't loyalty to team trump loyalty to any individual player?

Besides, Robz was talking about sending him to Sactown! Isn't that worse? Although, if Rondo bolts, which seems probable, then Sactown might also value a PG with Tony's pedigree.

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Don't get me wrong, if I was RC and Pop I'd make that move without any concern. It's not like trading Duncan or Ginobili who are revered by Spurs fans. Parker isn't viewed in the same light which might make it easier to accept. Why he doesn't get the same admiration I'll never know and don't anyone bring up Erin Barry she was already gone Barry couldn't handle his ho it happens to the best of us. Parker and Crazy Eva were done as well so only bitchasses would have an issue with what happened. Stone throwers who aren't happy with how their own life turned out. Probably manic depressives

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Originally Posted by sasaint

I admit, that is a nasty scenario from Tony's perspective. Not sure that the Spurs would do that to him. On the other hand, doesn't loyalty to team trump loyalty to any individual player?

Besides, Robz was talking about sending him to Sactown! Isn't that worse? Although, if Rondo bolts, which seems probable, then Sactown might also value a PG with Tony's pedigree.

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IMO, the Spurs already showed TP $45,0000,000 worth of loyalty. They don't need to further exacerbate the situation by keeping him around at the expense of the team. Assuming they'd have a taker for him.

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Originally Posted by south side spur

Don't get me wrong, if I was RC and Pop I'd make that move without any concern. It's not like trading Duncan or Ginobili who are revered by Spurs fans. Parker isn't viewed in the same light which might make it easier to accept. Why he doesn't get the same admiration I'll never know and don't anyone bring up Erin Barry she was already gone Barry couldn't handle his ho it happens to the best of us. Parker and Crazy Eva were done as well so only bitchasses would have an issue with what happened. Stone throwers who aren't happy with how their own life turned out. Probably manic depressives

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Most posters do not place Tony on quite as high a pedestal as Tim and Manu, because Tim and Manu played on bargain contracts as they declined. And neither one has expressed the desire to play beyond his utility to the team. By contrast, Tony's contract overpays him pretty substantially PLUS he has expressed the desire to play for 20 years with the Spurs.

My other thought about Tony is: it might be possible for him to become the sixth man and recapture much of his effectiveness as a spark off the bench playing primarily against opponents' second units.

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Originally Posted by cd98

Joking, right? We'd all trade Danny Green for Durrant in half a second.

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I hate danny, but I don't know if I would. Leonard would be third option which would be great, but it totally changes the dynamic of the team.

Can players take less than the max? Max players know they need to take less to keep the structure of your new team. You don't want to gut the main parts. Losing Patty mills on a very very cheap contract is fucking stupid.

I understand the contract but it wasn't signed at the same point in his career as Duncan or Ginobili. They had already declined when they took paycuts and Parker was still performing at a high level. He didn't start declining until 2014. As horrific as Ginobili's 2013 Finals went he should've paid back millions to the Spurs. But Ginobili could get away with that and still be loved. He made up for it 2014 but the 2013 Finals was the worst performance by a Spur I can recall so he knew he couldn't demand the same pay.

:lol I'm one of the biggest Danny fans here and one of the biggest Durant haters on the internet, but of course it would be a no-brainer..

I highly doubt he's coming, though..players of that magnitude care about their reputation and legacy..remember how much silly criticism Lebron got from his "peers" for not "doing it on his own", and he joined a franchise that was far less decorated than the Spurs..

Dominos is one of the most media-protected stars we have ever seen, though, maybe they would continue giving him passes:lol

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

I'm afraid fragile-minded Green will let these rumors affect his play the more serious they get.

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There's no evidence Green is fragile-minded. Seriously, the dude was Pop's whipping boy for five years and then took a discount to sign up for four more years of it.

Why are people making threads about all these articles? They are literally just saying the same thing over and over. This is math. No one's going come up with anything new unless we hear the cap projections are going to change.

We traded Hill. We will trade Parker to the hawks.

He can Tissot for I care. :lol

Like some poster said. He already got his legacy checks and won tons of rings. The Spurs already did their part by him.

He should go to Boston, tbh..they have a great coach and it's a big market..he could also avoid the Warriors until the Finals..

You're seriously going to compare Hill with Parker?

Ugh, and not to mention that this particular article was also very poorly researched. Durant at $27.6 Million, not counting roster charges or the $4 Million in pick holds. Saying Simmons has an option. Just awful. And it has a dateline like it's a serious article.

Durant's max salary would actually start at $26.0 million due to a technicality in how the cap is calculated for the purposes of maximum salaries:

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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

They use a different cap calculation to determine the maximum salaries, which is based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%. In 2005 the sides negotiated a different formula for setting the salary cap but not maximum salaries, so the two became decoupled, and this continued in the 2011 agreement. For this reason the maximum salaries are not actually 25%, 30% or 35% of the cap, and instead are a slightly lower amount. For example, even though the salary cap for 2011-12 is $58.044 million and 25% of this amount is $14.511 million, the 0-6 year maximum salary is actually $12,922,194. In addition, for 2012-13 a 5.8% increase in maximum salaries was agreed to, even though the salary cap stayed the same as 2011-12.

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So it would look like this:
Aldridge: $20.575M
Leonard: $17.638M
Parker: $14.445M
Green: $10.000M
Mills: $3.200M
Diaw: $3.000M guaranteed if waived
Cap hold for 7 roster spots under 12: $3.804M

TOTAL: $72.662M
CAP SPACE: $19.338M

The Spurs would need to come up with about $6.662M to fit Durant in, counting the extra cap hold for one player being salary dumped. They could actually come extremely close to making Durant a max offer if they could find someone to take Diaw + Mills in a salary dump.

Aldridge: $20.575M
Leonard: $17.638M
Parker: $14.445M
Green: $10.000M
Cap hold for 8 roster spots under 12: $4.348M

TOTAL: $67.006M
CAP SPACE: $24.994M

They would be $1M short of offering Durant a max deal. I think he'd take the paycut if he really wanted to come. Spurs would lose Duncan, Ginobili, Diaw, West, Mills, Marjonovic but could still bring Bonner back.

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

Durant's max salary would actually start at $26.0 million due to a technicality in how the cap is calculated for the purposes of maximum salaries:



So it would look like this:
Aldridge: $20.575M
Leonard: $17.638M
Parker: $14.445M
Green: $10.000M
Mills: $3.200M
Diaw: $3.000M guaranteed if waived
Cap hold for 7 roster spots under 12: $3.804M

TOTAL: $72.662M
CAP SPACE: $19.338M

The Spurs would need to come up with about $6.662M to fit Durant in, counting the extra cap hold for one player being salary dumped. They could actually come extremely close to making Durant a max offer if they could find someone to take Diaw + Mills in a salary dump.

Aldridge: $20.575M
Leonard: $17.638M
Parker: $14.445M
Green: $10.000M
Cap hold for 8 roster spots under 12: $4.348M

TOTAL: $67.006M
CAP SPACE: $24.994M

They would be $1M short of offering Durant a max deal. I think he'd take the paycut if he really wanted to come. Spurs would lose Duncan, Ginobili, Diaw, West, Mills, Marjonovic but could still bring Bonner back.

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Sounds like a done deal then.

Ew, no. Just trade Parker. Could have Mills and like three other guys for that money.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

There's no evidence Green is fragile-minded.

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Games 6 and 7 NBA finals 2013 are damning evidence of his mental fragility. You can choose to ignore the evidence if you wish.

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

Games 6 and 7 NBA finals 2013 are damning evidence of his mental fragility. You can choose to ignore the evidence if you wish.

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No, it's evidence of shooting poorly. You have plenty of other examples of him stepping up in critical games. It's absurd that you think the first five games of the Finals are somehow not a high-pressure situation.