Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
I still don't understand where KD would fit in as a starter in San Antonio?
Do we play him at the 3 and move Leonard to the 2, or does he become our 5?
Do we put him at the 4 and move Aldridge to the 5?
Either way, I think one of our current Big 2 is going to be displaced by KD.
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
Durant would obviously play the 3 or the 4 depending on the match up. It would be an awesome offensive lineup but rebounding would suffer again.
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
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Vito Corleone
I still don't understand where KD would fit in as a starter in San Antonio?
Do we play him at the 3 and move Leonard to the 2, or does he become our 5?
Do we put him at the 4 and move Aldridge to the 5?
Either way, I think one of our current Big 2 is going to be displaced by KD.
I've said from the start that the genius move behind signing Aldridge is that it came in the year before the Salary Cap was due to rise dramatically... This summer & especially next summer, top flight free agents will make significantly more than Aldridge, which will make him a very attractive trade asset if necessary. In the '17 & '18 seasons, the Spurs will have two top 15 players, and both of them will have very reasonable contracts. If (and it's huge if) OKC is able to resign Durant this summer and Westbrook next summer, their contracts will be significantly more pricey than KL & LMA's, which means they'll have the same issue they've always had, finding money to put complementary role players around them. To me, that's why signing Aldridge was always a no brainer.
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
Spurs need an athletic, mobile Center and a PG to run the office.
Assuming TD and Manu leave and Diaw gets dropped, the Spurs should have enough $$ to get two solid contributors. The perfect scenario would be to move Parker too. Say goodbye to the former BIG3 and usher in a new Big 3.
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tmtcsc
Spurs need an athletic, mobile Center and a PG to run the office.
Assuming TD and Manu leave and Diaw gets dropped, the Spurs should have enough $$ to get two solid contributors. The perfect scenario would be to move Parker too. Say goodbye to the former BIG3 and usher in a new Big 3.
Manu was 2nd among SGs in RPM, playing in the most limited role of his career. At worst, he's still a very good 20mpg player. I hope he comes back. Even if he plays 15 mpg, he's still a bargain for the price of his contract. Tim might be a different situation because of his knees.
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Tully365
I've said from the start that the genius move behind signing Aldridge is that it came in the year before the Salary Cap was due to rise dramatically... This summer & especially next summer, top flight free agents will make significantly more than Aldridge, which will make him a very attractive trade asset if necessary. In the '17 & '18 seasons, the Spurs will have two top 15 players, and both of them will have very reasonable contracts. If (and it's huge if) OKC is able to resign Durant this summer and Westbrook next summer, their contracts will be significantly more pricey than KL & LMA's, which means they'll have the same issue they've always had, finding money to put complementary role players around them. To me, that's why signing Aldridge was always a no brainer.
:tu on this and on Manu's continued effectiveness in a limited role. Almost impossible to replace him. Duncan's offense was bad this year, but still plays elite defense. Imagine him anchoring the second unit. Opposing teams won't be able to score.
Spurs running cap gymnastics around most of the league. Just wait until August 2017 to see how many players around the league are making more than LMA and Kawhi and you'll be shocked.
Also, wait and see which limited wings will be making more than Green. And which crappy point guards will be making more than Parker (not saying he's good).
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:tu on this and on Manu's continued effectiveness in a limited role. Almost impossible to replace him. Duncan's offense was bad this year, but still plays elite defense. Imagine him anchoring the second unit. Opposing teams won't be able to score.
Spurs running cap gymnastics around most of the league. Just wait until August 2017 to see how many players around the league are making more than LMA and Kawhi and you'll be shocked.
Also, wait and see which limited wings will be making more than Green. And which crappy point guards will be making more than Parker (not saying he's good).
:toast
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
Don't be surprised if the Spurs end up with the same team....Minor tweak here and there...
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
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tmtcsc
Spurs need an athletic, mobile Center and a PG to run the office.
Assuming TD and Manu leave and Diaw gets dropped, the Spurs should have enough $$ to get two solid contributors. The perfect scenario would be to move Parker too. Say goodbye to the former BIG3 and usher in a new Big 3.
Moving Parker would not be perfect imo. He's done a lot for this team, and I know there's a mutual respect between the 2. Some won't like it, but I'm sure he'll retire a Spurs, and he deserves it.
Maybe him coming off the bench is a possibility, but he probably won't be moved
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Tully365
Manu was 2nd among SGs in RPM, playing in the most limited role of his career. At worst, he's still a very good 20mpg player. I hope he comes back. Even if he plays 15 mpg, he's still a bargain for the price of his contract. Tim might be a different situation because of his knees.
Yes this is nice and dandy, but the issue is that as long as he is on the roster, Pop will still use Manu in big moments in the playoffs even if he just doesn't have it like throwing bad passes, losing his man on D, too slow to loose balls, etc.
Pop is loyal to a fault.
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UZER
Yes this is nice and dandy, but the issue is that as long as he is on the roster, Pop will still use Manu in big moments in the playoffs even if he just doesn't have it like throwing bad passes, losing his man on D, too slow to loose balls, etc.
Pop is loyal to a fault.
Case Study: Matt Bonner
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UZER
Yes this is nice and dandy, but the issue is that as long as he is on the roster, Pop will still use Manu in big moments in the playoffs even if he just doesn't have it like throwing bad passes, losing his man on D, too slow to loose balls, etc.
Pop is loyal to a fault.
No, Pop used Manu because there is literally no other option on the roster. He was the best offensive player outside of Kawhi and LMA on the team this year, and it wasn't even close (Boban doesn't count).
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cjw
No, Pop used Manu because there is literally no other option on the roster. He was the best offensive player outside of Kawhi and LMA on the team this year, and it wasn't even close (Boban doesn't count).
Which proves my point. As long as Manu is on the team, a roster spot is being taken up, others players won't be given a chance in the playoffs because Pop will continue to go with Manu.
They go hand in hand.
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Vito Corleone
I still don't understand where KD would fit in as a starter in San Antonio?
Do we play him at the 3 and move Leonard to the 2, or does he become our 5?
Do we put him at the 4 and move Aldridge to the 5?
Either way, I think one of our current Big 2 is going to be displaced by KD.
Durant is the 3/4 while Leonard is the 2/3.
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UZER
Which proves my point. As long as Manu is on the team, a roster spot is being taken up, others players won't be given a chance in the playoffs because Pop will continue to go with Manu.
They go hand in hand.
Many was fine too. If he was dragging his body up and down and being useless then I'd understand
Re: mysa McDonald: How Spurs' free-agency run at Kevin Durant might work
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Vito Corleone
I still don't understand where KD would fit in as a starter in San Antonio?
Do we play him at the 3 and move Leonard to the 2, or does he become our 5?
Do we put him at the 4 and move Aldridge to the 5?
Either way, I think one of our current Big 2 is going to be displaced by KD.
Kawhi's ball handling has evolved to the point where I think he could play the 2. On defense he can play anywhere except the 5 some nights. It moves Danny to the bench and his price tag is a bit much for that role. IT's not my money but I could see that being a rub.
There is precedent. When Silas went down early after the merger Ice famously moved to the 2 after being a 3 his entire career. It was one of Bob Bass' claims to fame although he was essentially forced into it.
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Keepin' it real
He had a horrible game, but he won't resign. That's a bit too drastic.
I would imagine it more than that. Straw and the camel. . .
The way that game went down was typical to their problems. Westbrook playing like his hair is on fire and making repeated mental errors. Infighting and fingerpointing. Selfish play where the ball stops for a quarter while Westbrook plays hero ball.
I think if Durant takes a long look he will realize that it's been most of a decade and nothing has changed in that regard. They have evolved the roster outside of Ibaka and brought in a new coach yet it is the same shit.
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T Park
Many was fine too. If he was dragging his body up and down and being useless then I'd understand
Exactly. As I've shown elsewhere, the stats show Manu was the third best offensive player on the team (yes, he went against bench lineups, but also was surrounded by underperforming bench players). He was very effective compared to others at his position and if he left, it would create a huge void. How do people propose filling that at his price?
Sure, he may fall off this season. But stop complaining about him taking up a roster spot last season. Bonner - you have a gripe. But not Manu or Tim.
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cjw
Exactly. As I've shown elsewhere, the stats show Manu was the third best offensive player on the team (yes, he went against bench lineups, but also was surrounded by underperforming bench players). He was very effective compared to others at his position and if he left, it would create a huge void. How do people propose filling that at his price?
Sure, he may fall off this season. But stop complaining about him taking up a roster spot last season. Bonner - you have a gripe. But not Manu or Tim.
agree 100%
I also think if the bench is improved it almost makes him better obviously. better ball movement, better more open shots and drives for him.
