Is David West the most overrated acquisition since Dick Jefferson?

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Originally Posted by 313

No need for a vet min 3rd PF to take up big man minutes. If we're going to play a 4th big it should be Boban seeing as with the loss of Splitter and Tim being pretty much finished(due to age, injury, or what have you), we're light at C.

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At least, Mr. Dead Weight (Bonner) should have been dumped for Boozer.

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Originally Posted by Brazil

comparaison is quite weird tbh... Dick had been recruited with a big paycheck to be a starter West came for the vet to play off the bench spot minutes... For the price and the role West acquisition is not overrated at all.

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Pop treating him like 2008 Finley isn't helping the cause.

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he is doing ok comparing to expectations. Dude is 35 y/o it is not on him Pop is playing him too much. BTW his stats so far are pretty similar per 36 / advanced than his career

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Except he's putting up those number against BACKUPS otherwise Mo Speight would be a superstar.:lol

jesus christ yes why is he suddenly a key player.

Our second big like others have said??? What a stupid joke that is.

That never materialized during the regular season or we wouldn't have won so many games. This needs to stop.

He is dumb and simply not a winner in the Spurs tradition.

Meanwhile the greatest winner in NBA history and one of the most intelligent players ever who just happens to also be the greatest Spur ever, ROTS ON THE BENCH FOR THIS MORON.

It's hard to stomach. It's disrespectful quite frankly.


oh and Mcdyess was definitely better.

Bonner likely is also better. At least against OKC.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

At least, Mr. Dead Weight (Bonner) should have been dumped for Boozer.

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Honestly, I didn't even know Booz was still in the league. Speaking of Bonner though, if he would've been cut instead of Butler I wonder if he would be getting minutes this series.

Wonder how many rings Tim would have with Phil as his coach all these years.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Pop treating him like 2008 Finley isn't helping the cause.

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that's your pov and on pop tbh... nothing to do with the fact he is overrated or not... unless you mean he is overrated by Pop which is a different debate

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Except he's putting up those number against BACKUPS otherwise Mo Speight would be a superstar.:lol

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:lol well except the fact he is playing as much as Tim... at 20 mpg he is not playing just against backups on the contrary... Last two games he played all fourth quarters for instance.

and then again I don't know who is overrating him tbh... he is producing no more or less than expected.

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Originally Posted by 313

Honestly, I didn't even know Booz was still in the league. Speaking of Bonner though, if he would've been cut instead of Butler I wonder if he would be getting minutes this series.

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Boozer refused to play unless it was for a contender so he now works for NBATV

BTW, I hope PATFO don't max out Horford:

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Originally Posted by 313

Wonder how many rings Tim would have with Phil as his coach all these years.

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he surely would not have 2014/15 ring tbh... Phil is nice and all but globally he had one system, did not change much over the years and was good at managing egos... not sure in what world this makes him a better coach than Pop.

for all the shit he gets, no pop no ring that year. Pop just changed the whole nba in one season and still there are people giving him shit :lol

Pop's legacy on the game and FO management is 10 times Phil's one

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Originally Posted by Brazil

that's your pov and on pop tbh... nothing to do with the fact he is overrated or not... unless you mean he is overrated by Pop which is a different debate

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Considering how he's held in high regard you would think he's an all-star:lol

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well except the fact he is playing as much as Tim... at 20 mpg he is not playing just against backups on the contrary... Last two games he played all fourth quarters for instance.

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What's impressive about splitting minutes w/ a handicapped 40 yr old? He got his ass handed to him in the 4th quarter b/c he's a bum.:lol

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Originally Posted by Brazil

he surely would not have 2014/15 ring tbh.

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I didn't know they gave out rings for getting outcoached by Glenn.:lmao

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Considering how he's held in high regard you would think he's an all-star:lol

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:lol I'm pretty sure Pop is aware of limitations of the dude but consider wrongly or rightly so (its another debate) he is the best option he has. At this point Pop considers he has to pick between Tim and West, I'd rather go with Tim Goat Duncan but I'm a fan so yeah... Maybe he will adjust and pull off something else: back to Timmy or small ball or the red rocket (:lol don't laugh it could happen), he won't trust Boban.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Speights plays as much as Bogut but he ain't no Bogut.:lol

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:lol I never said West is Tim tbh... just pointing out the fact that he is not just playing against backups

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

I didn't know they gave out rings for getting outcoached by Glenn.:lmao

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:lol... sorry... time is flying tbh

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Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37

West is fine for the price..I liked the addition in the off-season as a 4th big..Indiana fans hated him as a starter and rightfully so, he's a liability in that role..

The problem is that he's currently playing as the #2 big, which is as bad as it gets:lol..shades of McDyess being the #2 big at a time where he should have been in a bench role..

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This is actually the best summary. Was fine as the 4th big but as the 2nd? NOPE.

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Originally Posted by spursistan

I agree, it is dire, but he shouldn't be expected to be doing this much.. Imagine an older/shorter Mo Speights without his recently developed 3pt shot and a broken jumper closing 4th Qs for the Warriors :lol..That's basically D West..

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:lol When you put it this way it's patently clear that it's not the salary, it's the role.

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Is David West the most overrated acquisition since Dick Jefferson?

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No. Next question.

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Originally Posted by itzsoweezee

He's effectively playing the role of a starter, even though he's coming off the bench. If popovich plans on relying on him, might as well end it here because both the warriors and the Cavs will demolish him

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And both teams did demolish him in the RS. He could not guard GSW especially at all, but neither could Timmy.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

And both teams did demolish him in the RS. He could not guard GSW especially at all, but neither could Timmy.

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:pop:But Pop is out there doing this::deadhorse

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Originally Posted by Mouth is Bleeding

jesus christ yes why is he suddenly a key player.

Our second big like others have said??? What a stupid joke that is.

That never materialized during the regular season or we wouldn't have won so many games. This needs to stop.





He is dumb and simply not a winner in the Spurs tradition.

Meanwhile the greatest winner in NBA history and one of the most intelligent players ever who just happens to also be the greatest Spur ever, ROTS ON THE BENCH FOR THIS MORON.

It's hard to stomach. It's disrespectful quite frankly.


oh and Mcdyess was definitely better.

Bonner likely is also better. At least against OKC.

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Word....The guy who posted this is on the crack pipe

Carl:lols B:lol:lolzer :lmao

Holy shit :lmao

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

At least, Mr. Dead Weight (Bonner) should have been dumped for Boozer.

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:pop: False. Kawhi would have been cut before Bonner.

Ridiculous. He's playing solid. Besides, he signed for free practically

nothing like OP's youtube arguments :lol

he's the type of guy who will argue how great anthony morrow is and defend it by posting a youtube of his 42 point game

He's good for the value the Spurs got him for. Jefferson was overpaid and didn't produce at what people expected of him. West has pretty much done what I expected which is be a guy who gets 6-8 points a game, and 5-7 rebounds. The problem is due to Duncan's rapid decline he's being forced to play a bigger role than what was originally expected.

He's overrated in the context of what people who don't watch the NBA outside of SA and are obsessed with names thought he still was, but fine for what he's been; especially for the money.

Pop asking him to be more isn't on West at this point, like it was not on Bonner when he was asked to be a starting PF in this league.

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

He's overrated in the context of what people who don't watch the NBA outside of SA and are obsessed with names thought he still was, but fine for what he's been; especially for the money.

Pop asking him to be more isn't on West at this point, like it was not on Bonner when he was asked to be a starting PF in this league.

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Exactly.

The issue with West, is symbolic of the issue with this team: They're relics of the past. I don't just mean by age, but by style. Even though West can still play, he's an awkward fit in today's game, because power forwards like him aren't being developed anymore. When he was coming up, the mid ranger and post defense were what was required. Now, it's the three and the ability to switch. So he's longer a pure four, but he doesn't protect the rim/defensive rebound well enough to be a five, either.