Is David West the most overrated acquisition since Dick Jefferson?

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Originally Posted by 313

Honestly, I didn't even know Booz was still in the league. Speaking of Bonner though, if he would've been cut instead of Butler I wonder if he would be getting minutes this series.

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He's not in the league. Dudes a scrub at this point which makes it laughable to even name drop him.

not even close

D-West is a minimum vet expected to be the the 3rd/4th big off the bench.

Dick Jefferson was supposed to be our savior when SA was desperate for a starting material SF. Dick Jefferson is the biggest disappointment in the Spurs history. Not only he was terrible, but he also stole a shit load of money from SA and they had to give up a 1st rounder in order to get rid of him.

Good thing we arent paying him 12 milion tbh
Hes came thru with a few critical plays in our 2 wins though

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Originally Posted by rastaspur

Big time fail. Signed at the vet minimum. Because of that it is an all gravy and no risk situation. He's earned his paycheck. Dick Jefferson did not.

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Yep. Dick was the second highest paid player on the time. West is one of the lowest. It's fine.

Spurs talk use to be good :(

If for the minimum, why not?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

He's overrated in the context of what people who don't watch the NBA outside of SA and are obsessed with names thought he still was, but fine for what he's been; especially for the money.

Pop asking him to be more isn't on West at this point, like it was not on Bonner when he was asked to be a starting PF in this league.

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This is what I was getting into, Pop overvalues him & so does the media since they bring him up as some kind of savior.:lol He has as much value to a contender as David Lee had last season, even PJ Brown was a pretty good defender when he played for the Celtics.

Tbh, if was signed from overseas like Baynes then nobody would be talking about him. :cryBut...but...but..he turned down 13 million.:cry

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Originally Posted by Silver&Black

If for the minimum, why not?

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Money has nothing to do w/ it. I'm talking about his ROLE, he has no business being a 20 MPG backup on a contender.

Besides, he would have gotten the MLE from the Spurs if it was available & folks were claiming he should opt-out for a pay raise NEXT season including Chinook stating he should be a starter.:lmao

He was supposed to be a Shaun Livingston type vet but dude has been David Lee status.:lol

he can't fill duncan's shoes.
it's ridiculous to expect this team was gonna move along no problems after timmy fell off a cliff

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Originally Posted by weeks

he can't fill duncan's shoes.
it's ridiculous to expect this team was gonna move along no problems after timmy fell off a cliff

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You have Shaun Livingston filling in for the freakin' MVP, meanwhile one of the so called "best offseason acquisitions" can't even relief a 40 yr old.:rolleyes

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...d-west-signing :lmao

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

You have Shaun Livingston filling in for the freakin' MVP, meanwhile one of the so called "best offseason acquisitions" can't even relief a 40 yr old.:rolleyes

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...d-west-signing :lmao

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It really is working out well for the Warriors where Curry is currently busy getting juiced up with blood doping which is what his centrifuged blood plasma treatment really is (there are sports where you would never say this treatment out loud cuz it is blatant doping) unless you go totally by the book (and even then it arguably is) which there is no reason to since you can't get caught and no one is watching.

I predict that when he is coming back he'll be sprinting with unprecedented intensity and endurance like he never skipped a beat or better than ever before.

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Originally Posted by Mouth is Bleeding

It really is working out well for the Warriors where Curry is currently busy getting juiced up with blood doping which is what his centrifuged blood plasma treatment really is (there are sports where you would never say this treatment out loud cuz it is blatant doping) unless you go totally by the book (and even then it arguably is) which there is no reason to since you can't get caught and no one is watching.

I predict that when he is coming back he'll be sprinting with unprecedented intensity and endurance like he never skipped a beat or better than ever before.

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Wow, did the Dubs actually report that or is it a rumor?

:lol today's NBA

Amare might have been a better option that D-Worst since he can actually play PnR w/ Manu.:bang

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Originally Posted by 313

Wow, did the Dubs actually report that or is it a rumor?

:lol today's NBA

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yeah it's not a big story but it's there though sugar-coated or merely reported by the various U.S media.

Just google platelet-rich plasma treatment and/or Curry.

It has just escaped being put on the doping list by Wada but blood doping is notoriously so of course and this is the whole blood doping procedure where your blood is getting centrifuged and I just can't see them not taken fully advantage of that and using it as such.

I don't really get this topic. Your main concern seems to be about West's role and how he shouldn't be playing so many minutes. I agree with that. But then you go on to say that we should've gotten Boozer or Amar'e? Do you really think those guys have any business playing 20+ minutes for a contender? By the way your statement about how Boozer is as good of a mid-range shooter as West is completely off-base.

Boozer's last 3 seasons: 37% from 10-16 feet, 40.5% from 16-23 feet
West's last 3 seasons: 39.5% from 10-16 feet, 52.1% from 16-23 feet

I agree that Aldrich would've been a better fit for us (Diaw/Aldrich bench duo would be really solid), but that doesn't really make West "overrated". I also don't really see people clamoring over West and acting like he's some amazing player. Most people just applaud his willingness to leave money on the table and have talked about how he's been a solid contributor for the Spurs...which he absolutely was during the regular season, just unfortunately hasn't been during the postseason (mainly because his mid-range game has vanished for whatever reason, and also because OKC is a shitty matchup for him).

So yeah, I do think West doesn't need to be playing this many minutes, but 1) Duncan's play isn't helping with that, and 2) calling him the most overrated acquisition since RJ is taking it too far :lol

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Originally Posted by Brazil

he surely would not have 2014/15 ring tbh... Phil is nice and all but globally he had one system, did not change much over the years and was good at managing egos... not sure in what world this makes him a better coach than Pop.

for all the shit he gets, no pop no ring that year. Pop just changed the whole nba in one season and still there are people giving him shit :lol

Pop's legacy on the game and FO management is 10 times Phil's one

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Pop is a better GM, and finding guys that will buy into his system, but when it comes to Xs and Os, it's hard to put him over Phil or some of the other top 3-5 coaches. The Spurs have had catastrophic choke jobs the last ten years and at some point you have to look at coaching. Of course, the Spurs have won just as much so it balances it out, I suppose.

West is a pisspoor rebounder

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Originally Posted by SpursFan86

I don't really get this topic. Your main concern seems to be about West's role and how he shouldn't be playing so many minutes. I agree with that. But then you go on to say that we should've gotten Boozer or Amar'e? Do you really think those guys have any business playing 20+ minutes for a contender?

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Dude is a BAD fit alongside Diaw (can't rebound) or LMA (can't roll). Besides shooting, Boozer can actually REBOUND & ROLL (Amar'e also can actually roll & rebound better than West). He's a better passer/shooter than either one but that isn't what the team needs, he is basically an overkill at the forward position just like David Lee was on last season's Warriors.

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By the way your statement about how Boozer is as good of a mid-range shooter as West is completely off-base.

Boozer's last 3 seasons: 37% from 10-16 feet, 40.5% from 16-23 feet
West's last 3 seasons: 39.5% from 10-16 feet, 52.1% from 16-23 feet

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Who care what he did 3 season ago when he's washed up. Last season, Boozer shot 47% from 10-16 ft & West shot 32% which is the shot he has been missing this postseason. LMA is already the King of long 2s(16-23) so West is overkill unless he's shooting 3s.:rolleyes

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I agree that Aldrich would've been a better fit for us (Diaw/Aldrich bench duo would be really solid), but that doesn't really make West "overrated". I also don't really see people clamoring over West and acting like he's some amazing player. Most people just applaud his willingness to leave money on the table and have talked about how he's been a solid contributor for the Spurs...which he absolutely was during the regular season, just unfortunately hasn't been during the postseason (mainly because his mid-range game has vanished for whatever reason, and also because OKC is a shitty matchup for him).

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When he started, he got exposed as someone who feasts on backups but can't replicate it against elite competition, it's not the shitty matchup even JaMychal Green abused him. Essentially, there is no good matchup for him unless he playing against bums.:lol (He was an OVERRATED acquisition for the SPURS, he could have had more value to a team that didn't have PFs like the Raptors)

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So yeah, I do think West doesn't need to be playing this many minutes, but 1) Duncan's play isn't helping with that, and 2) calling him the most overrated acquisition since RJ is taking it too far :lol

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If he's unplayable then who cares how much he sacrificed, that has nothing to do w/ what he does on the court.:wakeup

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

You have Shaun Livingston filling in for the freakin' MVP, meanwhile one of the so called "best offseason acquisitions" can't even relief a 40 yr old.:rolleyes

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...d-west-signing :lmao

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"West in the west? That's horrible for the rest" :rollin

West is still fine as a power-forward. He's not a center. I'd be fine with him as the starting PF next to LMA for a couple of years. But the team will be poorly served if they roll out that same bench front court another season.

If it's for the minimum, why not?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

If it's for the minimum, why not?

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Yeah, I don't get the Dick Jefferson comparison.

Also, assuming the Spurs make it to the next round, I think West will be fine against a guy like Speights. And if they make it to the Finals, he'll be fine against Frye.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

West is still fine as a power-forward. He's not a center. I'd be fine with him as the starting PF next to LMA for a couple of years. But the team will be poorly served if they roll out that same bench front court another season.

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Dat rim protection.:lmao

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Originally Posted by Chinook

Also, assuming the Spurs make it to the next round, I think West will be fine against a guy like Speights. And if they make it to the Finals, he'll be fine against Frye.

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Mr. Brick Feet would get murdered on PnPs involving Fyre/Speight & the Warriors/Cavs ran a train on him at the rim when Tim was out.

The guy can't move his feet, protect the rim or rebound, the only thing he has going for him is long arms for below the rim help defense.

At least Boris can move his feet for a PF & doesn't get murdered on switches. There is a reason why West barely played any minutes against the Warriors when the Spurs beat them w/ Boris in the starting lineup. The only guy he could matchup w/ is Varejao.:lol