Is David West the most overrated acquisition since Dick Jefferson?

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

Dat rim protection.:lmao

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You don't ask you PF to protect the rim if you're most teams. The primary reason for that is that there are like two of three PFs who can actually do it.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You don't ask you PF to protect the rim if you're most teams. The primary reason for that is that there are like two of three PFs who can actually do it.

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I'm talking about the LMA/West tandem.:wakeup (OKC has feasted on that duo)

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

I'm talking about the LMA/West tandem.:wakeup (OKC has feasted on that duo)

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I know what you're talking about. The Spurs aren't likely to get a rim-protector to play next to LMA. It would help to just accept that, because if they do, they will probably be missing out on a good deal of general quality.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

If it's for the minimum, why not?

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Take money out of the equation & just focus on what he was supposed to bring to the table. He would have gotten at least the MLE if it was available meanwhile you have guys that were FAs this summer & were signed for less than the MLE (i.e. Biyambo) outplaying him by a good margin in the playoffs.

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Originally Posted by DarrinS

Yeah, I don't get the Dick Jefferson comparison.

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Dumbass, I didn't say he was JUST like Dick. I SPECIFICALLY stated "SINCE" Dick Jefferson.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

I know what you're talking about. The Spurs aren't likely to get a rim-protector to play next to LMA. It would help to just accept that, because if they do, they will probably be missing out on a good deal of general quality.

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That "general quality" includes layup lines, parade to the FT line & uncontested rebounds for the opposition. If you want spacing on the floor then might as well sign Speights instead of starting a guy that got outplayed by Luis Scola as a full-time starter.:lol

Mozgov is the type of rim-protector that can be hand for a bargain (let Boban walk) & Diaw is still the best option for small-ball. If PATFO can get Pau for the MLE then West will end up being the 5th big, which is where he belongs on the depth chart.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

That "general quality" includes layup lines, parade to the FT line & uncontested rebounds for the opposition. If you want spacing on the floor then might as well sign Speights instead of starting a guy that got outplayed by Luis Scola as a full-time starter.:lol

Mozgov is the type of rim-protector that can be hand for a bargain (let Boban walk) & Diaw is still the best option for small-ball. If PATFO can get Pau for the MLE then West will end up being the 5th big, which is where he belongs on the depth chart.

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We've been over this ground before. I don't hate the idea of a Mozgov, but I do hate the idea of using the cap space on a center when PF and guards are much more critical needs.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

West is still fine as a power-forward. He's not a center. I'd be fine with him as the starting PF next to LMA for a couple of years. But the team will be poorly served if they roll out that same bench front court another season.

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Frankly nooooooooo. I don't want him to be our starting PF next season. He doesn't fit well with LMA TBH. I am with Kstorm that we need a roller not another midrange shooter. I'd rather have a Tiago than him. Really sad for Tiago that he's been injured but he's the kind of guy who would be perfect. Good passer, defender, high BBIQ, low usage, not a good rebounder but he does box out.

Anyways Tiago is risky. His career could be over if he doesn't recover from that surgery with a but more resiliency, so I don't think he's a target for the off-season but he's the type we need.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

We've been over this ground before. I don't hate the idea of a Mozgov, but I do hate the idea of using the cap space on a center when PF and guards are much more critical needs.

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LMA isn't a rim protector (he's a good postup defender) & an average rebounder. Pau is better centers than LMA, so I don't see what's so great about LMA starting at center when he's most likely going get get worn out to even take advantage on offense.

It's not like LMA is great defending in space either: he looked fine against the Warriors then Curry grilled him when he realized he could just blow by him. Unless low IQ players like WestBrick are bailing him out then the good simply outweighs the bad.

Might as well trade him for Brook Lopez who is a very good rim protector & just as good a rebounder.

There is enough money to get Mozgov/Fournier/Pau so I'm not sure why you're hell bent on West starting.

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Originally Posted by Mouth is Bleeding

It really is working out well for the Warriors where Curry is currently busy getting juiced up with blood doping which is what his centrifuged blood plasma treatment really is (there are sports where you would never say this treatment out loud cuz it is blatant doping) unless you go totally by the book (and even then it arguably is) which there is no reason to since you can't get caught and no one is watching.

I predict that when he is coming back he'll be sprinting with unprecedented intensity and endurance like he never skipped a beat or better than ever before.

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Blood doping ftw.

If we come through the Thunder CIA POP needs to somehow make this a story.

At least if our guys aren't also using these kind of advantages which I guess that I really hope that we do.

I think we do actually.

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Originally Posted by Mouth is Bleeding

Blood doping ftw.

If we come through the Thunder CIA POP needs to somehow make this a story.

At least if our guys aren't also using these kind of advantages which I guess that I really hope that we do.

I think we do actually.

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Most of these guys are on something. Especially the older guys.

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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm

The guy brings nothing to the table that Diaw already didn't besides acting tough & committing dumb fouls.:rolleyes

He makes the Finley acquisition seem like deal of the century but all the media talk about is how he opt-ed out of his deal when he would have been stealing money from the Pacers like Roy Hibbert.

At this point, is he even better than Luis Scola? (He was getting benched for Scola last season:lol): http://www.indycornrows.com/2015/2/16/8046543/there-is-value-in-david-west-being-there-for-the-pacers





2011 McDyess was better than this bum but Pop is giving him the 2008 Finley treatment.:rolleyes (Dude is basically Kurt Thomas 2.0)

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he's not even a starter. Undersized for this series but he's very valuable in the right matchup

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Originally Posted by Chinook

West is still fine as a power-forward. He's not a center. I'd be fine with him as the starting PF next to LMA for a couple of years. But the team will be poorly served if they roll out that same bench front court another season.

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No. He's like a SF who can't drive. All he does is shoot jumpers. He gets out rebounded by smaller players, and he's defense is poor. This is an uncanny resemblance of the McDyess situation.

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Originally Posted by Chinook

You don't ask you PF to protect the rim if you're most teams. The primary reason for that is that there are like two of three PFs who can actually do it.

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He's not a good enough scorer to simply ask him to score. Additionally he doesn't do work inside. West is there to stay even, but that isn't worth another year, IAH

Remember when he used to kill us with the Hornets.

Not only does he look washed-up and outmatched, but he is playing unlike a veteran and flat out dumb by taking the most unadvised of fouls..

I appreciate him joining the spurs for the vet min and giving up all that money but he's a liability out there, West had a horrible season and even worse in the POs

Gotta take him for vet min like we did. That being said, must like Bonner, it's not his fault he is being given so many minutes. He is what he is at this point in his career. He can't take himself out of games.

We need to stop getting these washed up vets because Pop can't help himself.

Where is Mr. Tough Guy D-Worst, Z-Bo is a Real Muphuckin' G:

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sometime in March his mid-range got broken and he became totally useless..he would have been unplayable too against GSW/CLE..

He was useless. Wasn't assertive at all with his jumper and instead went for some fucking janky ass right floater every time he went against Kanter.

$11,000,000........for nthng.

How many near-prime Duncan years did Dick Jefferson singled-handedly waste? That dude's name should be a curse word in San Antonio.