I love when fans think they know more than the best coach in the NBA. Funny stuff.
Yeah the gameplan and rotations were perfect last night we just didn't hit shots
:pop:
05-11-2016
polandprzem
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9
Pop didnt make a single adjustment against the the clippers 45 set. What makes you think he will? How many times I have said since 2011 that hes been a poor adjustment coach.
Three times?
05-11-2016
UZER
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by Snaq O'Meal
It may be possible that Pop made no adjustments because he has no fucking clue what to adjust.
Duh. This has always been his problem. That's why he always preaches system system system because he knows nothing else.
This why against coaches that adjust to him, as the series goes on, that team ges stronger and stronger while the Spurs fade. His only adjustments ever have been who starts the first or second half.
05-11-2016
polandprzem
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by UZER
Duh. This has always been his problem. That's why he always preaches system system system because he knows nothing else.
This why against coaches that adjust to him, as the series goes on, that team ges stronger and stronger while the Spurs fade. His only adjustments ever have been who starts the first or second half.
Yup. He started Devin Brown in game six 2004 ... Well in the second half. Way too late :)
I always was there to defend Pop but now just can't. At the end of his career I'm here to pin him to the tree !
Fuck that I'm gonna go and do some Chili Con Carne !
05-11-2016
urunobili
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
Boban shat on Kanter in the regular season and was not even tried...
05-11-2016
houston spurs fan
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
This is an excellent take mid. I thought while watching the Mavs OKC series and they were closing games with Westbrook, KD, Kanter, Adams, and Waiters it would give us serious problems and it certainly has. That lineup you could argue is the top in the NBA as long as they are not turning the ball over
05-11-2016
Biernutz
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
Slo-Mo is still a project..next year will be his make or break year....I look for a trade....
05-11-2016
FkLA
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
Fathead play decent D on Durant. Thats really the only reason he's out there. Not a fan of him by any means but I don't think him playing a couple of minutes has much of an impact.
05-11-2016
spursistan
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
This series is over IMO..Pop is 2-12 in Game 6s when he trails 2-3 in a BO7 series..his two twins were thanks to CP0 allergy to Conference Finals (Hornets '08) and the other he ended up losing Game 7 at home against Dallas 2006 in a series he was thoroughly outcoached.
He's just that type of miserable bitterender with his refusal to make obvious adjustments..
05-11-2016
DPG21920
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
I really don't think big adjustments are needed. Despite scrubs like Waiters & Foye hitting big shots, despite the issues on the glass, despite Westbrook chucking in 34 foot 3 point shots and Adams throwing in backwards over the head shots & despite getting a raw deal with officiating the Spurs are in every game.
The big adjustment is Guys making 2-4 open looks they are missing. If they just do that and every other odd thing happens (bad calls, rebounding issues, fluky shots & scrubs playing beyond themselves) SA wins.
05-11-2016
Budkin
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by midnightpulp
I think he's just hoping Patty can get some of that 2014 magic back for a game.
But yeah, it's retarded. He signed Martin FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, and he doesn't use him :lol
This I don't get. No Martin, no Miller, no Simmons, ever. W...T...F??
05-11-2016
midnightpulp
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by FkLA
Fathead play decent D on Durant. Thats really the only reason he's out there. Not a fan of him by any means but I don't think him playing a couple of minutes has much of an impact.
The sad thing is it does. Fat Head was -7 in 3 minutes in game three. He subbed in for Kawhi for the last 3 minutes of 3rd last night, and the Thunder promptly went on a 5-1 run to close the quarter.
If Pop is worried about defense on Durant when Kawhi is subbed out, stagger Green, as I said.
05-11-2016
midnightpulp
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
I really don't think big adjustments are needed. Despite scrubs like Waiters & Foye hitting big shots, despite the issues on the glass, despite Westbrook chucking in 34 foot 3 point shots and Adams throwing in backwards over the head shots & despite getting a raw deal with officiating the Spurs are in every game.
The big adjustment is Guys making 2-4 open looks they are missing. If they just do that and every other odd thing happens (bad calls, rebounding issues, fluky shots & scrubs playing beyond themselves) SA wins.
Fat Head not seeing another minute on the floor is definitely an adjustment that needs to be made.
Note, I'm not irrationally hating on Kyle here, but all the evidence strongly suggests he's a huge liability on the floor in this series.
05-11-2016
DPG21920
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
I agree w/ staggering DG. He seems like he more than anyone can sustain playing big minutes and needs to. Unfortunately with Kawhi looking completely gassed late in games (he is 2-9 with 5 points in the last 2 fourth quarters) Kawhi can't play 42MPG+ and be effective.
05-11-2016
Kawhitstorm
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
Too bad there isn't an athletic shooting guard with a similar playing style to Dion Waiters on the team :lol someone who brings the juice, as opposed to fat head and his chest shorts
05-11-2016
TheGreatYacht
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
:pop: Who's that? Does he even suit up?
05-11-2016
Kawhitstorm
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht
:pop::pop: Who's that? Does he even suit up?
:pop:That's the guy that picks up my wine orders, he's still not over himself.:rolleyes
05-11-2016
Chinook
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
I really don't think big adjustments are needed. Despite scrubs like Waiters & Foye hitting big shots, despite the issues on the glass, despite Westbrook chucking in 34 foot 3 point shots and Adams throwing in backwards over the head shots & despite getting a raw deal with officiating the Spurs are in every game.
The big adjustment is Guys making 2-4 open looks they are missing. If they just do that and every other odd thing happens (bad calls, rebounding issues, fluky shots & scrubs playing beyond themselves) SA wins.
Issue is even a locked-in Green is likely to only shoot around 50 percent next game. I think he'll score in single digits off six or seven attempts. I don't think that'll be enough unless someone else besides LMA and Kawhi gets close to 20. The Spurs have been in games, but they are also looking to be on fumes right now.
It would make a good deal of sense to change up the starting lineup. I'd start Diaw to see if he could get someone in foul trouble. Duncan and West might be a slow-footed bench combo, but they should be able to handle Collison and Kanter.
05-11-2016
TheGreatYacht
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by Kawhitstorm
:pop:That's the guy that picks up my wine orders, he's still not over himself.:rolleyes
:lmao
05-11-2016
Kawhitstorm
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by Chinook
It would make a good deal of sense to change up the starting lineup. I'd start Diaw to see if he could get someone in foul trouble. Duncan and West might be a slow-footed bench combo, but they should be able to handle Collison and Kanter.
Collison is BARELY playing, 1 minute::lmao
Pop should handle the rotation by having Tim/LMA on the floor against the Kanter/Adams lineup as much as possible & playing Diaw/West only when Ibaka is in the game. Thus, the team would be best served starting West or Diaw then bringing Tim off the bench to matchup w/ Kanter.
I would say start West since Roberson can't take advantage of D-Worst's brick feet unlike Waiters.
05-11-2016
DPG21920
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by midnightpulp
Fat Head not seeing another minute on the floor is definitely an adjustment that needs to be made.
Note, I'm not irrationally hating on Kyle here, but all the evidence strongly suggests he's a huge liability on the floor in this series.
Perhaps, but again, I think people are so focused on the results they are failing to see how fluky SA's shot making has been:
SA, despite "lineup flaws" and adjustments, are generating a lot of open looks. Looks they have hit all year. Looks they should hit.
An interesting note to go along with this quote: The Spurs had 48 uncontested field-goal attempts in Game 5, the most of any game in this series, and made only 21 of them. For perspective, Oklahoma City had just 33 such attempts. The difference? The Thunder made 46.7 percent of their contested attempts; the Spurs connected on just 35 percent.
05-11-2016
ViceCity86
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by UZER
Duh. This has always been his problem. That's why he always preaches system system system because he knows nothing else.
This why against coaches that adjust to him, as the series goes on, that team ges stronger and stronger while the Spurs fade. His only adjustments ever have been who starts the first or second half.
Even when they win that's the case.Look at 2005 Finals.Started off like gangbusters first 2 games.Larry Brown made adjustments and tightened the series.They lucked out with Horry having a 1995 flashback in game 5 and Pistons shitting the bed on offense in game 7.If that series was best of 9,they lose.
05-11-2016
midnightpulp
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
Perhaps, but again, I think people are so focused on the results they are failing to see how fluky SA's shot making has been:
SA, despite "lineup flaws" and adjustments, are generating a lot of open looks. Looks they have hit all year. Looks they should hit.
This just lends more credence to the age old idea that jumpshot shooting teams (unless you're an anomaly, like Golden State) don't win titles. There's just too much variance. I would wager to guess that best jumpshooters in the league probably hit 50-55% of their uncontested looks from the mid-range and out. Compare that to the overall percentage of the better post players and penetrators. They'll shoot 55-60% whether contested or not. And I'm sure the uncontested rate for penetrators and post-players is 70-80%.
That said, it is encouraging the offense is generating looks. If the Spurs can just hot for the next two games, we have a shot.
05-11-2016
Kawhitstorm
Re: Underrated move by Donovan.
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Originally Posted by DPG21920
Perhaps, but again, I think people are so focused on the results they are failing to see how fluky SA's shot making has been:
SA, despite "lineup flaws" and adjustments, are generating a lot of open looks. Looks they have hit all year. Looks they should hit.
Th two notorious chokers on the team (Softridge & Porker) missed a handful of uncontested mid-range shots include a FT.:rolleyes