NBA: Jeremy Lin Suddenly Looks Like A Fit For Spurs

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NBA: Jeremy Lin Suddenly Looks Like A Fit For Spurs

by 2Paragraphs in Sports | May 13, 2016

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Jeremy Lin, post-game media conference in Charlotte

The San Antonio Spurs played this season like they wouldn't need new parts for a while yet. Bolstered by the offseason acquisitions of David Westand LaMarcus Aldridge, the Spurs went 67-15 and started the playoffs with a 4-0 Grizzlies sweep. But the Spurs saw their weaknesses exposed in the second round by a young, lightning fast, exceptionally strong OKC Thunder. For the first time in memory, San Antonio struggled to find open players and even to get off shots. Not only did the Spurs repeatedly fail to recover on defense fast enough to match the Thunder's sprint-outs (even after made baskets), but on offense the selfless San Antonio machineregistered just 19 assists -- after dishing 39 in Game 1. Point guard Tony Parker (6 points) hadn't been nullified this way since LeBron James stifled him in the 2014 NBA Finals.

The Spurs crushed the Thunder 124-92 to open the series, but things changed fast. Just as they will likely change fast this summer for San Antonio. The Spurs sorely lacked youth, strength, quickness and penetration as the series wore on. They were short players who can defend full-court and create shots on their own when the system gets clogged by ferocious defense like OKC's. Charlotte guard Jeremy Lin brings all those ingredients to a roster. Lin, who will explore the NBA market (again) this summer, used this past season in Charlotte to prove he can defend at a top level (after being wrongly maligned for not having that ability) and to remind everyone that he can create his own shot and consistently get to the line with penetration. San Antonio did neither against the Thunder, shooting just 16 free throws as a team in Game 4. Lin has been looking to play for a contender. He also owns, as Spurs culture demands, a reputation for team-first play. Last week the Spurs didn't look like they needed a lot of help. Today, Jeremy Lin looks like a good fit.


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I mentioned this midseason this year. He's a realistic option. Can really attack the rim.

Suddenly?

Jeremy has a habit of torching the Spurs when he gets minutes. Last time was March 11th, when he poured in 29 points.

Not sure. He gets shook when driving in traffic.

Fuck that. Don't need more delusional foreign fans.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Fuck that. Don't need more delusional foreign fans.

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So many asian fans on ST trolling Porkertards. :lol

So Lin is the Duncan + Ginobili replacement. That's just fucking great.

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Originally Posted by LongtimeSpursFan

Not sure. He gets shook when driving in traffic.

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He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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lmao! :lmao

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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why are you saying he's Asian

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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crofl

The only race we never could get, and maybe an eskimo and we are all set...

We've had an Asian before: Menk Bateer

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

We've had an Asian before: Menk Bateer

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:pop: he spread the floor.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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:lol Let's just end the thread right here...

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by Indazone

Jeremy has a habit of torching the Spurs when he gets minutes. Last time was March 11th, when he poured in 29 points.

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That would be a Doc "He played well against us" Rivers signing.:lol

Ill take anyone at this point.

Sounds good, but what the Spurs really need is an athletic big man. That should be the number one priority this off season.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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Fucking lol

jeremy lin sucks balls.

Lin would be Dick Jefferson 1.5.

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Originally Posted by SpurPadre

We've had an Asian before: Menk Bateer

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We need an eskimo or a mongolian.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Fuck that. Don't need more delusional foreign fans.

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Think of the jersey sales though. I know Holt is :lol

Uh.....no. Need someone that can play a lick of defense off the bench. He cant

Linsanity takes over the Alamo City :lol

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

We need an eskimo or a mongolian.

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We need another Argentine, tbh.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Lin would be Dick Jefferson 1.5.

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Which is still an upgrade over Tony at the PG position.

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Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Lin would be Dick Jefferson 1.5.

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Agreed. Do not want.

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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought5

Which is still an upgrade over Tony at the PG position.

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:lol

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Originally Posted by TrainOfThought5

Which is still an upgrade over Tony at the PG position.

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I'd hate to call it an upgrade, tbh.

May 2015:

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Originally Posted by FkLA

I brought up Linsanity months ago too. He does bring some playmaking to the table and plays the right way, if we can get him for cheap I agree that he would be a decent back-up. Replace Manu, Belli and CoJo with Afflalo and Linsanity imo.

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Would be awesome. Is he a FA again? The guy can play and has proven to be a solid rotation player. People are just still (stupidly) upset over all the attention he got in NY or don't take him seriously simply because he eats wontons for breakfast tbh.

I think he's mentally weak and has not shown a decent postseason so far in the few times he's been there. As much as we need a good rotation regular season player, I would love to have a valid playoff performer (ala Jax) on the team. Can we bring back Brent Barry? Lol.

He'd be a dynamic, multi-faceted option off the bench, but I wouldn't trust him as a starter. And he'd be expensive off the bench.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

He'd be a dynamic, multi-faceted option off the bench, but I wouldn't trust him as a starter. And he'd be expensive off the bench.

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Exactly. Parker ain't going nowhere. He is either the starting PG or the 6th man ball-handler. As long as that is the case, Lin does not fit the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by sasaint

Exactly. Parker ain't going nowhere. He is either the starting PG or the 6th man ball-handler. As long as that is the case, Lin does not fit the Spurs.

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Well, I would love Lin off the bench, but it would be too expensive.

Whoever posted this is simply a jeremy lin fanboy.... buahahaha what a bunch of garbage..rather stick with parker if this is the case.gtfoh

I see this guy getting overpaid. Doubt it will be by the Spurs.

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Originally Posted by Indazone

Jeremy has a habit of torching the Spurs when he gets minutes. Last time was March 11th, when he poured in 29 points.

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I don't care for his defense... however, Spurs are known for picking up players who have torched them.

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Originally Posted by cd98

I see this guy getting overpaid. Doubt it will be by the Spurs.

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NBA: Jeremy Lin Suddenly Looks Like A Fit For Spurs

by 2Paragraphs in Sports | May 13, 2016

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Jeremy Lin, post-game media conference in Charlotte

The San Antonio Spurs played this season like they wouldn't need new parts for a while yet. Bolstered by the offseason acquisitions of David Westand LaMarcus Aldridge, the Spurs went 67-15 and started the playoffs with a 4-0 Grizzlies sweep. But the Spurs saw their weaknesses exposed in the second round by a young, lightning fast, exceptionally strong OKC Thunder. For the first time in memory, San Antonio struggled to find open players and even to get off shots. Not only did the Spurs repeatedly fail to recover on defense fast enough to match the Thunder's sprint-outs (even after made baskets), but on offense the selfless San Antonio machineregistered just 19 assists -- after dishing 39 in Game 1. Point guard Tony Parker (6 points) hadn't been nullified this way since LeBron James stifled him in the 2014 NBA Finals.

The Spurs crushed the Thunder 124-92 to open the series, but things changed fast. Just as they will likely change fast this summer for San Antonio. The Spurs sorely lacked youth, strength, quickness and penetration as the series wore on. They were short players who can defend full-court and create shots on their own when the system gets clogged by ferocious defense like OKC's. Charlotte guard Jeremy Lin brings all those ingredients to a roster. Lin, who will explore the NBA market (again) this summer, used this past season in Charlotte to prove he can defend at a top level (after being wrongly maligned for not having that ability) and to remind everyone that he can create his own shot and consistently get to the line with penetration. San Antonio did neither against the Thunder, shooting just 16 free throws as a team in Game 4. Lin has been looking to play for a contender. He also owns, as Spurs culture demands, a reputation for team-first play. Last week the Spurs didn't look like they needed a lot of help. Today, Jeremy Lin looks like a good fit.


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Always good to have a luck-chuck on the team but unlesss he can get the refs to call a fair game it won't matter against the thunder.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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HE'S AZIAN!!! ASIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK AT DRIVING. I SEE A CAREER IN THE FRONT OFFICE AS AN ANALYTICS DUDE AFTER HE RETIRES BECAUSE HE SHOULD ROCK IN MATH.

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Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

We need an eskimo or a mongolian.

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Bateer was Mongolian, not Chinese. The Chinese don't have those kinds of names.

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Originally Posted by UNT Eagles 2016

Bateer was Mongolian, not Chinese. The Chinese don't have those kinds of names.

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No one said he was Chinese.

would easily replace parker with him.

Stay away from San Antonio, we don't want you.

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Originally Posted by apalisoc_9

I mentioned this midseason this year. He's a realistic option. Can really attack the rim.

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No.

No more old, has been retreads...

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The fact that we consider Lin as an Option shows us how fucked up we are with Tony starting.

That contract will come down as one of the worst contracts of the Spurs Big 3 era.

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Originally Posted by kaji157

The fact that we consider Lin as an Option shows us how fucked up we are with Tony starting.

That contract will come down as one of the worst contracts of the Spurs Big 3 era.

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For short-sighted people and ungrateful "fans", yes. For the rest of us, we realize that contract was retroactively rewarding Tony for his underpaid contributions to FOUR championships.

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Originally Posted by Keepin' it real

For short-sighted people and ungrateful "fans", yes. For the rest of us, we realize that contract was retroactively rewarding Tony for his underpaid contributions to FOUR championships.

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Tony was never THAT underpaid. Just compare his earnings to Manu and TIM in similar years and divide it for either winshares or per or what you want.

For example:

Tim Duncan: Total career earnings 235 millions, years, 19, average salary 12.37 millions, career win shares per 48 .2019 (13 all time) Total Win Shares 206.4. (6th all time) Win Cost (total earnings divided by total wins) 1,14 millions.

Manu Ginobili: Total career earnings 108.5 millions, years, 14, average salary 7.75 millions, career win shares per 48 .2002 (21 all time) Total Win Shares 101.2. (71 all time) Win Cost 1,07 millions.

Tony Parker (AS OF NOW): Total career earnings 130.9 millions, years, 15, average salary 8.72 millions, career win shares per 48 .1469 (118 all time) Total Win Shares 105.29. (67 all time) Win Cost 1,27 millions.

So as of now Tony has been the best paid of the 3 by production, without considering the next 2 years, now, heres what will look like assuming tony doesnt decline one bit, givig him 5 more win shares (average for his last 2 years) per year.

Tony Would be payed this way.

Total career earnings 161 millions, years, 16, average salary 10.06 millions, career win shares per 48 -cannot be calculated- Total Win Shares 110.29 Win Cost 1,45 millions.

So, finally, my point is, he was not UNDERPAID, compared to neither Manu or Tim and what they brought, as of now, neither overpaid. IF HIS CONTRACT EXPIRED NOW. These two years will put him with an average salary 30% more expensive than Manu, and also his "wins" will be the most expensive of the 3 (evendoe they already are, but by a normal margin.

By the analisys you can either agree that he was well paid, or a bit overpaid, depending on where you put him compared to Tim and compared to Manu, but what cannot be said, is that he was UNDERpaid, compared to the two.

PD: Stats data taken from Basketball-reference.com and contract Data from Spotrac.com.

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I'd hate to call it an upgrade, tbh.

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Truer words never typed on this site.

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Originally Posted by myhc

HE'S AZIAN!!! ASIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK AT DRIVING. I SEE A CAREER IN THE FRONT OFFICE AS AN ANALYTICS DUDE AFTER HE RETIRES BECAUSE HE SHOULD ROCK IN MATH.

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Lol. Damn.

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Originally Posted by myhc

HE'S AZIAN!!! ASIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY SUCK AT DRIVING. I SEE A CAREER IN THE FRONT OFFICE AS AN ANALYTICS DUDE AFTER HE RETIRES BECAUSE HE SHOULD ROCK IN MATH.

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:rollin

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Originally Posted by kaji157

Tony was never THAT underpaid. Just compare his earnings to Manu and TIM in similar years and divide it for either winshares or per or what you want.

For example:

Tim Duncan: Total career earnings 235 millions, years, 19, average salary 12.37 millions, career win shares per 48 .2019 (13 all time) Total Win Shares 206.4. (6th all time) Win Cost (total earnings divided by total wins) 1,14 millions.

Manu Ginobili: Total career earnings 108.5 millions, years, 14, average salary 7.75 millions, career win shares per 48 .2002 (21 all time) Total Win Shares 101.2. (71 all time) Win Cost 1,07 millions.

Tony Parker (AS OF NOW): Total career earnings 130.9 millions, years, 15, average salary 8.72 millions, career win shares per 48 .1469 (118 all time) Total Win Shares 105.29. (67 all time) Win Cost 1,27 millions.

So as of now Tony has been the best paid of the 3 by production, without considering the next 2 years, now, heres what will look like assuming tony doesnt decline one bit, givig him 5 more win shares (average for his last 2 years) per year.

Tony Would be payed this way.

Total career earnings 161 millions, years, 16, average salary 10.06 millions, career win shares per 48 -cannot be calculated- Total Win Shares 110.29 Win Cost 1,45 millions.

So, finally, my point is, he was not UNDERPAID, compared to neither Manu or Tim and what they brought, as of now, neither overpaid. IF HIS CONTRACT EXPIRED NOW. These two years will put him with an average salary 30% more expensive than Manu, and also his "wins" will be the most expensive of the 3 (evendoe they already are, but by a normal margin.

By the analisys you can either agree that he was well paid, or a bit overpaid, depending on where you put him compared to Tim and compared to Manu, but what cannot be said, is that he was UNDERpaid, compared to the two.

PD: Stats data taken from Basketball-reference.com and contract Data from Spotrac.com.

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it sucks you had to do all this work and can't do anything about it.

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it sucks you had to do all this work and can't do anything about it.

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Savage.

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Originally Posted by kaji157

Tony was never THAT underpaid. Just compare his earnings to Manu and TIM in similar years and divide it for either winshares or per or what you want.

For example:

Tim Duncan: Total career earnings 235 millions, years, 19, average salary 12.37 millions, career win shares per 48 .2019 (13 all time) Total Win Shares 206.4. (6th all time) Win Cost (total earnings divided by total wins) 1,14 millions.

Manu Ginobili: Total career earnings 108.5 millions, years, 14, average salary 7.75 millions, career win shares per 48 .2002 (21 all time) Total Win Shares 101.2. (71 all time) Win Cost 1,07 millions.

Tony Parker (AS OF NOW): Total career earnings 130.9 millions, years, 15, average salary 8.72 millions, career win shares per 48 .1469 (118 all time) Total Win Shares 105.29. (67 all time) Win Cost 1,27 millions.

So as of now Tony has been the best paid of the 3 by production, without considering the next 2 years, now, heres what will look like assuming tony doesnt decline one bit, givig him 5 more win shares (average for his last 2 years) per year.

Tony Would be payed this way.

Total career earnings 161 millions, years, 16, average salary 10.06 millions, career win shares per 48 -cannot be calculated- Total Win Shares 110.29 Win Cost 1,45 millions.

So, finally, my point is, he was not UNDERPAID, compared to neither Manu or Tim and what they brought, as of now, neither overpaid. IF HIS CONTRACT EXPIRED NOW. These two years will put him with an average salary 30% more expensive than Manu, and also his "wins" will be the most expensive of the 3 (evendoe they already are, but by a normal margin.

By the analisys you can either agree that he was well paid, or a bit overpaid, depending on where you put him compared to Tim and compared to Manu, but what cannot be said, is that he was UNDERpaid, compared to the two.

PD: Stats data taken from Basketball-reference.com and contract Data from Spotrac.com.

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Whoa. Perspective.

I'd rather have Jimmer or Alfrederic Hughes back.

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I'd rather have Jimmer or Alfrederic Hughes back.

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Jimmer's not even good to have on the bench since he does his own thing when he's got the ball in his hands.
Might as well have Danny Green drive the ball over and over.

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Originally Posted by kaji157

Tony was never THAT underpaid. Just compare his earnings to Manu and TIM in similar years and divide it for either winshares or per or what you want.

For example:

Tim Duncan: Total career earnings 235 millions, years, 19, average salary 12.37 millions, career win shares per 48 .2019 (13 all time) Total Win Shares 206.4. (6th all time) Win Cost (total earnings divided by total wins) 1,14 millions.

Manu Ginobili: Total career earnings 108.5 millions, years, 14, average salary 7.75 millions, career win shares per 48 .2002 (21 all time) Total Win Shares 101.2. (71 all time) Win Cost 1,07 millions.

Tony Parker (AS OF NOW): Total career earnings 130.9 millions, years, 15, average salary 8.72 millions, career win shares per 48 .1469 (118 all time) Total Win Shares 105.29. (67 all time) Win Cost 1,27 millions.

So as of now Tony has been the best paid of the 3 by production, without considering the next 2 years, now, heres what will look like assuming tony doesnt decline one bit, givig him 5 more win shares (average for his last 2 years) per year.

Tony Would be payed this way.

Total career earnings 161 millions, years, 16, average salary 10.06 millions, career win shares per 48 -cannot be calculated- Total Win Shares 110.29 Win Cost 1,45 millions.

So, finally, my point is, he was not UNDERPAID, compared to neither Manu or Tim and what they brought, as of now, neither overpaid. IF HIS CONTRACT EXPIRED NOW. These two years will put him with an average salary 30% more expensive than Manu, and also his "wins" will be the most expensive of the 3 (evendoe they already are, but by a normal margin.

By the analisys you can either agree that he was well paid, or a bit overpaid, depending on where you put him compared to Tim and compared to Manu, but what cannot be said, is that he was UNDERpaid, compared to the two.

PD: Stats data taken from Basketball-reference.com and contract Data from Spotrac.com.

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what's the point of comparing tony to the two most under-paid stars of modern basketball?... compare him over his career to the rest of the league's top play-makers and he's underpaid by a country mile

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Originally Posted by kaji157

Tony was never THAT underpaid. Just compare his earnings to Manu and TIM in similar years and divide it for either winshares or per or what you want. ...

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Thanks for researching, but determining if a player is overpaid/underpaid should be based on market value for his position, not on a team's comparative win shares. Does any team determine salaries this way?

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Originally Posted by baseline bum

I'd rather have Jimmer or Alfrederic Hughes back.

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Dimmer is a diva.:lol

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Thanks for researching, but determining if a player is overpaid/underpaid should be based on market value for his position, not on a team's comparative win shares. Does any team determine salaries this way?

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Not the point of my post, the point was that many here think that Tony´s contract was on the line of what Tim and Manu were also given and i am just pointing that this is not the case.

Tim and Manu DID give up a lot of money for the team,with this contract that is not true for Tony anymore, he´ll be over Manu and Tim in terms of production/importance for the team.

Of course i am not saying Tony has been overpaid because it´s not the case, just that the team never gave that "compensation contract" to Duncan not Ginobili, and they are not complaining.

So much for the "sacrifice" argument.

Nets gave him 36/3

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Nets gave him 36/3

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That's actually considerably less than I thought he'd get (especially from a non-contender).

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Originally Posted by Mal

Nets gave him 36/3

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if the spurs had salary dumped parker i'm sure lin would've signed here for even less.

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Originally Posted by Em-City

what's the point of comparing tony to the two most under-paid stars of modern basketball?... compare him over his career to the rest of the league's top play-makers and he's underpaid by a country mile

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• Tony Parker: -$7.4 value ($6.0 million value produced, $13.4 million contract value)
• Steph Curry ($47.4 million value), Russell Westbrook ($33.0 million value), Kyle Lowry ($26.6 million value)

:rolleyes

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Originally Posted by RD2191

He's fukin Asian. They all get shook when driving in traffic.

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top fucking kek

fuck that he comes and I'm jumpin ship from this site.

I would not want to catch the attention of China's 100,000 hacker army. my cartel is too valuable for even my posts :lmao

can u imagine the moment I piss of the Lintards to be here?