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Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Report: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
The San Antonio Spurs have already been linked to free-agent-to-be Kevin Durant, and may be setting their sights on another high-profile free agent this summer as well: Grizzlies point guard Mike Conley.
ESPN’s Marc Stein reports the Spurs intend to court Conley in July in addition to Durant. San Antonio was eliminated from the playoffs Thursday and faces some uncertainty this off-season surrounding the potential retirements of longtime stars Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
If those two players retire or opt out and restructure their deals, acquiring Conley could be possible thanks to the upcoming salary-cap spike. But such a move would affect the status of veteran starting point guard Tony Parker, 33, who would likely have to accept a bench role or have his contract — due to pay more than $14 million next season — moved to accommodate the younger Conley,
Despite injury problems, Conley averaged 15.3 points and 6.1 assists in 56 games this season.
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/05/13/san...es-free-agency
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Indazone
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Report: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
The San Antonio Spurs have already been linked to free-agent-to-be Kevin Durant, and may be setting their sights on another high-profile free agent this summer as well: Grizzlies point guard Mike Conley.
ESPN’s Marc Stein reports the Spurs intend to court Conley in July in addition to Durant. San Antonio was eliminated from the playoffs Thursday and faces some uncertainty this off-season surrounding the potential retirements of longtime stars Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili.
If those two players retire or opt out and restructure their deals, acquiring Conley could be possible thanks to the upcoming salary-cap spike. But such a move would affect the status of veteran starting point guard Tony Parker, 33, who would likely have to accept a bench role or have his contract — due to pay more than $14 million next season — moved to accommodate the younger Conley,
Despite injury problems, Conley averaged 15.3 points and 6.1 assists in 56 games this season.
http://www.si.com/nba/2016/05/13/san...es-free-agency
I was just posting about Durant joining the Spurs. Wow...with Conley. That'd be quite a coup for the offseason.
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I have a feeling the Spurs will make a spectacular move this summer. It will be eye popping.
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Indazone
I have a feeling the Spurs will make a spectacular move this summer. It will be eye popping.
Hope so... Spurs have a decent two with Kawhi/LMA as building blocks... Decent enough just with those 2 as 50+ wins for next couple of seasons...
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:pop: Do you think you're better than Tony?
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#AuRevoirTony
Let's make the Spurs great again this summer tbh.
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There seems to be many options that the Spurs could take this offseason be it through free agency, trades and the draft. We'll find out in the draft more or less what they're going to try and do.
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Btw most of these articles are old as fuck but still... doesn't mean they don't hold any truth.
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Conley for the right price I like... I'm no expert on CBA - is there any sign and trade scenarios with Grizzlies that would be intriguing?
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JonNOKC
Conley for the right price I like... I'm no expert on CBA - is there any sign and trade scenarios with Grizzlies that would be intriguing?
could they take tony?
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dabom
could they take tony?
:pop: I'll be gone before Tony.
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SpursforSix
:pop: I'll be gone before Tony.
:lol
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What would the Spurs have to do to get both Durant and Conley? It is even possible to fit both in with some moves?
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dabom
could they take tony?
I don't think that they would want The $30 million left on Tony's contract enough to do a sign and trade.
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Ice009
What would the Spurs have to do to get both Durant and Conley? It is even possible to fit both in with some moves?
Spurs would have to probably get rid of Diaw's, parker's and Green's salaries to even get close to possible
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Been saying it for a while on Twitter. Conley for TP in a Sign and trade makes sense for both sides. Only if Conley chooses to come here. Can't see Tony being okay with a 12-15 minute role, and can't see Spurs taking on 40 million or 40% of cap in salary at the PG position -- RC isn't that undisciplined.
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TXstbobcat
I don't think that they would want The $30 million left on Tony's contract enough to do a sign and trade.
:pop: My bad.
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Do not want Conley for the max unless Parker is moved. Parker won't be moved.
Spurs should do everything they can to pursue Durant. But even if Duncan and Ginobili opt out and Diaw is cut, I don't think there is enough space to max Durant. That requires salary dumping a few players. Spurs were able to reach a wink wink agreement with the Hawks last year to take on Splitter in the event that LMA chooses the Spurs. But the Spurs may have to dump Green before Durant makes a decision. What would be plan B if Durant doesn't sign? The Spurs will be without Green.
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024
Do not want Conley for the max unless Parker is moved. Parker won't be moved.
Spurs should do everything they can to pursue Durant. But even if Duncan and Ginobili opt out and Diaw is cut, I don't think there is enough space to max Durant. That requires salary dumping a few players. Spurs were able to reach a wink wink agreement with the Hawks last year to take on Splitter in the event that LMA chooses the Spurs. But the Spurs may have to dump Green before Durant makes a decision. What would be plan B if Durant doesn't sign? The Spurs will be without Green.
This would be crazy, but if the Spurs really are looking at both KD and Conley for the max and dumping everyone else to open the slots, is there any reason they can't call up Lebron before going after Conley and ask him if he wants to form the biggest 4 in NBA history? Lebron, KD, LMA and Kawhi. Lebron and KD can be the playmakers while they just sign a defensive PG.
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Yahoo said the cap would be 94m this year. If both Manu and TD opt out, Spurs should be able to give Durant max by dumping Patty, Diaw and Anderson.
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024
Do not want Conley for the max unless Parker is moved. Parker won't be moved.
Spurs should do everything they can to pursue Durant. But even if Duncan and Ginobili opt out and Diaw is cut, I don't think there is enough space to max Durant. That requires salary dumping a few players. Spurs were able to reach a wink wink agreement with the Hawks last year to take on Splitter in the event that LMA chooses the Spurs. But the Spurs may have to dump Green before Durant makes a decision. What would be plan B if Durant doesn't sign? The Spurs will be without Green.
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Ice009
This would be crazy, but if the Spurs really are looking at both KD and Conley for the max and dumping everyone else to open the slots, is there any reason they can't call up Lebron before going after Conley and ask him if he wants to form the biggest 4 in NBA history? Lebron, KD, LMA and Kawhi. Lebron and KD can be the playmakers while they just sign a defensive PG.
Nice pipedream, but seriously if that ever happened, even the Warriors would be scared as f**k of that lineup.
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FvckMavs
Yahoo said the cap would be 94m this year. If both Manu and TD opt out, Spurs should be able to give Durant max by dumping Patty, Diaw and Anderson.
Would they be able to match an offer to keep Boban under this scenario or would he have to walk as well..?
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Chillen
Nice pipedream, but seriously if that ever happened, even the Warriors would be scared as f**k of that lineup.
lol, yeah, I'm just kind of dreaming for a little bit here. I was just joking that if the Spurs are looking to try and open up two max slots, why not just call KD and Lebron first before talking to Conley.
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FvckMavs
Yahoo said the cap would be 94m this year. If both Manu and TD opt out, Spurs should be able to give Durant max by dumping Patty, Diaw and Anderson.
Dude if that's all it takes....damn
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look_at_g_shred
Dude if that's all it takes....damn
:pop: Was with you till you mentioned Kyle.. No deal.
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Who else would the Spurs have to dump to get a second max slot, or close to a second max slot? Green and Parker?
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look_at_g_shred
Dude if that's all it takes....damn
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They need to dump both Green and Parker. Still not enough for two max slots.
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Ice009
Who would the Spurs have to dump to get a second max slot, or close to a second max slot? Green and Parker?
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Well a pg is a must if the Spurs want to be competitive this year. I hope we can get rid of TP if this is the plan.
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FvckMavs
Yahoo said the cap would be 94m this year. If both Manu and TD opt out, Spurs should be able to give Durant max by dumping Patty, Diaw and Anderson.
Wow, if Durant want's to sign with the Spurs, doubt they think twice about doing that. Durant, Gasol, Conley would be a dream offseason for the Spurs.
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FvckMavs
Yahoo said the cap would be 94m this year. If both Manu and TD opt out, Spurs should be able to give Durant max by dumping Patty, Diaw and Anderson.
Someone posted that after Tim and Manu opt out and Diaw cut, the Spurs will have ~$20 million in cap space. Have to account for cap holds on open roster spots. Durant's max will be around $25-26 million. Moving Mills and Anderson might just barely not be enough.
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FvckMavs
They need to dump both Green and Parker. Still not enough for two max slots.
Would it be close though? If it's close, maybe they can convince Conley to take a little less to give Durant the max? or maybe both can take a little under the max. I'd assume though that it would be hard to trade Parker and get nothing back in return, or do you guys think that can be done if the Spurs really want to do it? You think there would be many teams out there that would want to absorb Parker's contract and give us nothing back in return?
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Ice009
Would it be close though? If it's close, maybe the can convince Conley to take a little less to give Durant the max? or maybe both can take a little under the max. I'd assume though that it would be hard though to trade Parker and get nothing back in return, or do you guys think that can be done if the Spurs really want to do it?
IIRC, Durant mentioned at some point that he might take less money.
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LMA(20.6m)+KL(17.3m)+TP(14.4m)+DG(10m)+Simmons(0.8 7m)+7 cap hold(3.5m?) = 66.77m. So the space will be 94-66.77 = 27.23m.
Durant's max will be around 26.5m.
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Someone posted that after Tim and Manu opt out and Diaw cut, the Spurs will have ~$20 million in cap space. Have to account for cap holds on open roster spots. Durant's max will be around $25-26 million. Moving Mills and Anderson might just barely not be enough.
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Would you rather keeping both Green and Parker than giving Conley max? I would. We need Green to defend players like Irwing or Curry.
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Ice009
Would it be close though? If it's close, maybe the can convince Conley to take a little less to give Durant the max? or maybe both can take a little under the max. I'd assume though that it would be hard though to trade Parker and get nothing back in return, or do you guys think that can be done if the Spurs really want to do it?
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FvckMavs
Would you rather keep both Green and Parker than giving Conley max? I would. We need Green to defend players like Irwing or Curry.
I'd probably rather go for a better player than Conley in that specific scenario. If we could open up close to two max slots, I'd rather go for someone else along with KD. Parker, I don't really want on the team anymore, so I'd dump him for Conley easily, Green I'm not sure about though. I used to love him, but this season he really let me down. He was horrible for at least half of the season and I don't know why that was. I love his defense still, but sometimes he's too one dimensional on offense as all he can really do is shoot the 3, and then if he's not hitting shots it becomes worse on that end of the court.
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JonNOKC
Conley for the right price I like... I'm no expert on CBA - is there any sign and trade scenarios with Grizzlies that would be intriguing?
First off, Durant and Conley as the article suggests is a pipe dream but ...
You're thinking along the right lines IF they in fact were doing Durant and Conley. Durant would most likely have to be signed through cap space. Duncan/Manu/West opting out plus moving Diaw for no salary in return, and filling the rest with minimum cap holds (first rounder is a stash or is traded) puts the Spurs at around $70.5 million, meaning $23.5 million year one salary for Durant. Including Mills to move Diaw would move cap room to $27.0 million, and if Diaw's a buyout, it's closer to $20 million.
I doubt they would take just Parker back in a sign and trade ... would probably require sweeteners ... but it would allow a year 1 Conley contract of his salary plus $5 million ($19.4mm). Green is the more likely one, but only allows a $15 million year one salary. I don't see Conley and Parker playing together, and no Green would leave a gaping hole.
Sign and trades are less common now because they don't allow the 7.5% raises (only 4.5%) and only four year deals (not five).
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Only 3m of Diaw's 6.5m is guaranteed. I may be wrong, but I think if they buy him out and stretch the 3m for 5 years, the cap hit will be very small.
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cjw
First off, Durant and Conley as the article suggests is a pipe dream but ...
You're thinking along the right lines IF they in fact were doing Durant and Conley. Durant would most likely have to be signed through cap space. Duncan/Manu/West opting out plus moving Diaw for no salary in return, and filling the rest with minimum cap holds (first rounder is a stash or is traded) puts the Spurs at around $70.5 million, meaning $23.5 million year one salary for Durant. Including Mills to move Diaw would move cap room to $27.0 million, and if Diaw's a buyout, it's closer to $20 million.
I doubt they would take just Parker back in a sign and trade ... would probably require sweeteners ... but it would allow a year 1 Conley contract of his salary plus $5 million ($19.4mm). Green is the more likely one, but only allows a $15 million year one salary. I don't see Conley and Parker playing together, and no Green would leave a gaping hole.
Sign and trades are less common now because they don't allow the 7.5% raises (only 4.5%) and only four year deals (not five).
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TheGoldStandard
:pop: Was with you till you mentioned Kyle.. No deal.
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Have you see the PG free agent class for 2017? Every all star PG in the league will be a free agent. Conley is gonna be 30 and he's slow.We need to replace Tim and some of the bench
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SpursforSix
IIRC, Durant mentioned at some point that he might take less money.
No income tax in texas too, in cali he would spend a extra 13% on his earnings assuming he doesnt have loopholes. He would also be spending less on his non nba income from nike which far exceeds his earnings. Tbh I dont think he cares about a max just for the money, if he had to take less for a team he thinks he could win on, he would take it.
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Big Empty
Have you see the PG free agent class for 2017? Every all star PG in the league will be a free agent. Conley is gonna be 30 and he's slow.We need to replace Tim and some of the bench
well they're probably not getting Curry, Westbrook, or Paul. But Lowry, Schroeder, and Holiday would all be significantly better than Conley.
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^ Only Lowry. Holiday just isn't that good and if your worried about Conley's injury history, well don't look at Holiday's. Plus Lowry is playing beyond himself the last 2 season. Conley has steadily becoming better. For the record, I would rather Lowry, but I'll take Conley saying yes this year than hoping Lowry would the next year.
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tbdog
^ Only Lowry. Holiday just isn't that good and if your worried about Conley's injury history, well don't look at Holiday's. Plus Lowry is playing beyond himself the last 2 season. Conley has steadily becoming better. For the record, I would rather Lowry, but I'll take Conley saying yes this year than hoping Lowry would the next year.
Yeah...I agree with that and I'm sure that's the thinking of the FO. Need to get better right now and Conley certainly helps along those lines. I actually like Conley and he'd give them enough years for them to be able to maybe find a young talent to develop at the position.
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Indazone
I have a feeling the Spurs will make a spectacular move this summer. It will be eye popping.
Like this?
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Spurs would need to get rid of everyone but Kawhi and LMA to sign 2 max guys. No way that will happen, but if they can convince Conley and KD to take 20 mil instead of the max then obviously that leaves quite a bit more flexibility to keep current guys.
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rasuo214
Spurs would need to get rid of everyone but Kawhi and LMA to sign 2 max guys. No way that will happen, but if they can convince Conley and KD to take 20 mil instead of the max then obviously that leaves quite a bit more flexibility to keep current guys.
WTF? really? nobody ain't taking less for shit anymore.... the days of that bullshit is over....
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I like Conley, but not paying the max, however it seems that KD stay in okc or go to gsw, FO will need to do some magic to stay competitive if it happens
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SequSpur
WTF? really? nobody ain't taking less for shit anymore.... the days of that bullshit is over....
False, plenty of names have taken less. Heck, even the Wade, Bosh, Lebron trio did. I honestly do see Durant taking less to increase he chances of a title. But he makes up for it with a huge Nike deal. Conley though, he has never talked about being great, chasing a ring to improve his image etc. Which means he will want he market value.
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how the fuck is conley a max player?
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Someone posted that after Tim and Manu opt out and Diaw cut, the Spurs will have ~$20 million in cap space. Have to account for cap holds on open roster spots. Durant's max will be around $25-26 million. Moving Mills and Anderson might just barely not be enough.
Anderson is barely above min level salary. As you said his caphold will still be there that's why the narrative is that they would need to move Danny. If you consider that Danny can net a lottery level pick, then the whole idea starts to make more sense.
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r0drig0lac
I like Conley, but not paying the max, however it seems that KD stay in okc or go to gsw, FO will need to do some magic to stay competitive if it happens
I like to entertain this ideas as much as anyone but I really doubt he joins us... like really really doubt it.
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noles1983
how the fuck is conley a max player?
^ Because so many teams have money and there is a pretty high cap floor. Supply and demand this year. He is the top 5 unrestricted free agent, behind Durant, Horford, DeRozen, Whiteside. All will get a max or damn close too.
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FvckMavs
Only 3m of Diaw's 6.5m is guaranteed. I may be wrong, but I think if they buy him out and stretch the 3m for 5 years, the cap hit will be very small.
Yeah, $600k each of 5 years. Not bad, so means less will have to be given up to trade him (can always stretch so not as punitive)
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Holy shit, both of them???
Do it Spurs!!!
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Liked this idea originally. Now I've soured. I think the Spurs go young at PG and develop. But hey, if they get Conley, it's definitely a win now move.
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Jeff Teague is no longer an option at point, he just got moved to Indiana in a 3-way deal, with George Hill going to Utah.
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He's glass and his game will probably age poorly, tbh..not worth a long-term deal, it would probably cement the Spurs as a pretender, going forward..
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The Spurs are a pretender regardless unless Durant miraculously signs.
While other respected posters on the board might disagree, I think Conley is a massive upgrade over the current starting PG.
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^^ Of course he's an upgrade over current Parker:lol
I think they have to start considering the future, though, which is why I wouldn't blow max money on a long-term deal to a 28-year old who might already be on the decline..
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HarlemHeat37
^^ Of course he's an upgrade over current Parker:lol
I think they have to start considering the future, though, which is why I wouldn't blow max money on a long-term deal to a 28-year old who might already be on the decline..
So you suggest waiting and let Aldridge age more ? Aldridge has 3 years left in the tank before a sharp decline
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Kikoluna
So you suggest waiting and let Aldridge age more ? Aldridge has 3 years left in the tank before a sharp decline
Aldridge is a stop gap.. an expensive shiny one but a stop gap. The team should be constructed around prime Leonard which is 3 years away in theory.
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Spurs are not that far! When you have a core of LMA/Kawhi/Danny Green, you should absolutely try to win now. That doesn't mean you can't get younger and keep an eye on the future, but that is an elite core and you have to at least try to win now.
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Tyler Ulis will be better than Conley so why pay the max to an aging PG when the Spurs could draft someone just as good on a rookie deal?
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Kikoluna
So you suggest waiting and let Aldridge age more ? Aldridge has 3 years left in the tank before a sharp decline
Waiting an extra year for a star that moves the needle is better than blowing it all on Mike Conley, especially since he isn't good enough to elevate the Spurs to a different level IMO(if he's even healthy in the playoffs)..
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TheGoldStandard
Aldridge is a stop gap.. an expensive shiny one but a stop gap. The team should be constructed around prime Leonard which is 3 years away in theory.
Good way to put the situation.
Obviously things could change if this team alters, gels and pulls something special off with him, but that's going to the local 7-11 and buying some scratch off tickets for the big bucks odds there.
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RD2191
Tyler Ulis will be better than Conley so why pay the max to an aging PG when the Spurs could draft someone just as good on a rookie deal?
Tiny Tyler will be better than Conley?
You don't even watch college ball, ass.
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HarlemHeat37
Waiting an extra year for a star that moves the needle is better than blowing it all on Mike Conley, especially since he isn't good enough to elevate the Spurs to a different level IMO(if he's even healthy in the playoffs)..
Interesting... So in your opinion, which star in free agency do you suppose moves the needle for the Spurs in 2017? Westbrook, Curry and James aren't signing here so let's not even go there :lol.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/
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Hoops Czar
Interesting... So in your opinion, which star in free agency do you suppose moves the needle for the Spurs in 2017? Westbrook, Curry and James aren't signing here so let's not even go there :lol.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/
Good question..
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Hoops Czar
Interesting... So in your opinion, which star in free agency do you suppose moves the needle for the Spurs in 2017? Westbrook, Curry and James aren't signing here so let's not even go there :lol.
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/2017/
Haven't looked at the FA list, it doesn't make a difference, though IMO..keeping your options and flexibility open for trades and potential unexpected FAs is much more prudent and logical than blowing a long-term max deal on an aging, declining top 10 PG..
Also, using the cap space on multiple mid-tier players to fill holes would be a much smarter move than signing Conley, too(especially since Parker isn't going anywhere for 2 years)..
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HarlemHeat37
Haven't looked at the FA list, it doesn't make a difference, though IMO..keeping your options and flexibility open for trades and potential unexpected FAs is much more prudent and logical than blowing a long-term max deal on an aging, declining top 10 PG..
Also, using the cap space on multiple mid-tier players to fill holes would be a much smarter move than signing Conley, too(especially since Parker isn't going anywhere for 2 years)..
:pop: Two Years? So now you're coaching.. Parker is a long term option here..
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HarlemHeat37
Haven't looked at the FA list, it doesn't make a difference, though IMO..keeping your options and flexibility open for trades and potential unexpected FAs is much more prudent and logical than blowing a long-term max deal on an aging, declining top 10 PG..
Also, using the cap space on multiple mid-tier players to fill holes would be a much smarter move than signing Conley, too(especially since Parker isn't going anywhere for 2 years)..
Nice job of answering without answering.. Broad strokes.. Keep it general..
I applaud..
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Conley would be a nice fit for SA...but I have a feeling he might resign with the Grizzlies ....
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TheGoldStandard
:pop: Two Years? So now you're coaching.. Parker is a long term option here..
Time to start drawing up that extension. Better early than late.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
tonight...you
Time to start drawing up that extension. Better early than late.
:pop: I'm thinking 4/80M
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
TheGoldStandard
:pop: I'm thinking 4/80M
I honestly think he's going to play hardball with you, Pop and ask to take RC's spot and be the 1st player/GM in the NBA.
You gotta do it, you pioneered women on the bench... time to take that plunge, Hoss.
Time to cleanse the rot and start the new Camelot.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
tonight...you
Tiny Tyler will be better than Conley?
You don't even watch college ball, ass.
Conley isn't anything special.
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Haven't looked at the FA list, it doesn't make a difference, though IMO..keeping your options and flexibility open for trades and potential unexpected FAs is much more prudent and logical than blowing a long-term max deal on an aging, declining top 10 PG..
Also, using the cap space on multiple mid-tier players to fill holes would be a much smarter move than signing Conley, too(especially since Parker isn't going anywhere for 2 years)..
Even those supposed mid tier players like the Parson's and the Holiday's of the world are going to be overpaid so they actually might only end up with one mid tier player and a bunch of end of the bench scrubs that could be had either way. Some posters here are under the impression that because the cap rises, the Spurs can sign more free agents. No, it means the same players that costed 5-6M will now cost 10M and those who made 10M are now in line to make 15-16M. Parker will be slightly more appealing as a salary dump option next offseason and Diaw officially comes off the books if he isn't dealt or let go in the near future. If not Conley, then somebody because this team isn't currently constructed to win championship with a declining pg that can no longer penetrate and breakdown the opponent's defense.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
lose parker, sign conley to a one year deal. then sign chris paul next summer.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
lose Manure, sign Conley. Then we get a real 6th man in Parker.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
The Spurs are going to need to figure out a way to get rid of Parker during negotiations with Conley to make it work.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
Conley isn't anything special.
True... I take everything I ever thought bad about you back.
You are a scholar, my good man.
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Originally Posted by
tonight...you
True... I take everything I ever thought bad about you back.
You are a scholar, my good man.
And don't you forget it.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
TheGreatYacht
lose Manure, sign Conley. Then we get a real 6th man in Parker.
Goat post :tu
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
RD2191
And don't you forget it.
Don't worry, I will. Easily. Just bask while you can.
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Re: Spurs to pursue Mike Conley in free agency
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Originally Posted by
tbdog
^ Because so many teams have money and there is a pretty high cap floor. Supply and demand this year. He is the top 5 unrestricted free agent, behind Durant, Horford, DeRozen, Whiteside. All will get a max or damn close too.
same reason these d bags are... kids love video games
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Originally Posted by
Ice009
This would be crazy, but if the Spurs really are looking at both KD and Conley for the max and dumping everyone else to open the slots, is there any reason they can't call up Lebron before going after Conley and ask him if he wants to form the biggest 4 in NBA history? Lebron, KD, LMA and Kawhi. Lebron and KD can be the playmakers while they just sign a defensive PG.
No need for a PG, tbh.
PG: Lebron
SG: Green
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: Aldridge
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I see Conley ending up with the Mavs before the Spurs tbh. I don't see us parting with Tony. Spurs are too loyal. And would be pointless to have both.
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Originally Posted by
BatManu20
I see Conley ending up with the Mavs before the Spurs tbh. I don't see us parting with Tony. Spurs are too loyal. And would be pointless to have both.
How would having both be pointless? Start Conley and have Parker come off the bench.
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
He's glass and his game will probably age poorly, tbh..not worth a long-term deal, it would probably cement the Spurs as a pretender, going forward..
Dude reminds me off Devin Harris who fell off when he lost his speed. Conley is a better shooter (although not a knockdown shooter) but Harris is bigger thus has been able to bully smaller guards like Patty.
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http://espn.go.com/espn/now?nowId=21...619082043121-4
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For Memphis to keep Mike Conley, the Grizzlies would have to commit to a five-year contract for the top point guard available in the free agency market, sources told ESPN.com. The fifth year, which only the Grizzlies can offer Conley, would be worth more than $33 million on a max contract.A source said the Spurs and Mavericks are among the other teams that would interest Conley, who intends to explore his options in free agency. The Spurs would have to answer questions about how Conley would fit with Tony Parker, according to the source, who said that Conley has great respect for Dallas coach Rick Carlisle.The Knicks and Pacers would have been attractive to Conley, an Indianapolis native, but those two teams addressed their needs at point guards with trades today.
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Also, using the cap space on multiple mid-tier players to fill holes would be a much smarter move than signing Conley, too(especially since Parker isn't going anywhere for 2 years)..
Considering Porker isn't going anywhere signing backup guards like Lin/Vasquez would be smarter than maxing out a guard who has been Jeff Teague status the past 2 seasons.:lol
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Originally Posted by
TheGreatYacht
lose Manure, sign Conley. Then we get a real 6th man in Parker.
Conley/Porker can't play together so spending 40 million for basically 40 minutes a night would be idiotic. Conley himself has lower extremity issues so he is on his way to aging like Porker.:lol
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Originally Posted by
baseline bum
Jeff Teague is no longer an option at point, he just got moved to Indiana in a 3-way deal, with George Hill going to Utah.
Offensively, Darren Collison was better than Teague last season: http://bkref.com/tiny/5C3PU
I was hoping PATFO could trade Patty/Simmons for Collison but dude got arrested for domestic violence.:bang
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Originally Posted by
Duncan2177
How would having both be pointless? Start Conley and have Parker come off the bench.
They can't play together so PATFO would be paying a mill per minutes (season average): 40 MPG --> 40 mill (Conley:25 + Porker:15)
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No way we get Durant, but Conley would be a nice pickup if he could develop a slightly reliable 3pt shot. He isn't bad, but it'd be nice to see him push into the 40%s even if it's just 40-42%
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Originally Posted by
Kawhitstorm
They can't play together so PATFO would be paying a mill per minutes (season average): 40 MPG --> 40 mill (Conley:25 + Porker:15)
Maybe the Spurs should just max out Ezili and call it an offseason :lol.