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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
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:pop: Was with you till you mentioned Kyle.. No deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
Who else would the Spurs have to dump to get a second max slot, or close to a second max slot? Green and Parker?
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Originally Posted by look_at_g_shred
They need to dump both Green and Parker. Still not enough for two max slots.
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Originally Posted by Ice009
Well a pg is a must if the Spurs want to be competitive this year. I hope we can get rid of TP if this is the plan.
Wow, if Durant want's to sign with the Spurs, doubt they think twice about doing that. Durant, Gasol, Conley would be a dream offseason for the Spurs.Quote:
Originally Posted by FvckMavs
Someone posted that after Tim and Manu opt out and Diaw cut, the Spurs will have ~$20 million in cap space. Have to account for cap holds on open roster spots. Durant's max will be around $25-26 million. Moving Mills and Anderson might just barely not be enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by FvckMavs
Would it be close though? If it's close, maybe they can convince Conley to take a little less to give Durant the max? or maybe both can take a little under the max. I'd assume though that it would be hard to trade Parker and get nothing back in return, or do you guys think that can be done if the Spurs really want to do it? You think there would be many teams out there that would want to absorb Parker's contract and give us nothing back in return?Quote:
Originally Posted by FvckMavs
IIRC, Durant mentioned at some point that he might take less money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ice009
LMA(20.6m)+KL(17.3m)+TP(14.4m)+DG(10m)+Simmons(0.8 7m)+7 cap hold(3.5m?) = 66.77m. So the space will be 94-66.77 = 27.23m.
Durant's max will be around 26.5m.
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Originally Posted by 024
Would you rather keeping both Green and Parker than giving Conley max? I would. We need Green to defend players like Irwing or Curry.
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Originally Posted by Ice009
I'd probably rather go for a better player than Conley in that specific scenario. If we could open up close to two max slots, I'd rather go for someone else along with KD. Parker, I don't really want on the team anymore, so I'd dump him for Conley easily, Green I'm not sure about though. I used to love him, but this season he really let me down. He was horrible for at least half of the season and I don't know why that was. I love his defense still, but sometimes he's too one dimensional on offense as all he can really do is shoot the 3, and then if he's not hitting shots it becomes worse on that end of the court.Quote:
Originally Posted by FvckMavs
First off, Durant and Conley as the article suggests is a pipe dream but ...Quote:
Originally Posted by JonNOKC
You're thinking along the right lines IF they in fact were doing Durant and Conley. Durant would most likely have to be signed through cap space. Duncan/Manu/West opting out plus moving Diaw for no salary in return, and filling the rest with minimum cap holds (first rounder is a stash or is traded) puts the Spurs at around $70.5 million, meaning $23.5 million year one salary for Durant. Including Mills to move Diaw would move cap room to $27.0 million, and if Diaw's a buyout, it's closer to $20 million.
I doubt they would take just Parker back in a sign and trade ... would probably require sweeteners ... but it would allow a year 1 Conley contract of his salary plus $5 million ($19.4mm). Green is the more likely one, but only allows a $15 million year one salary. I don't see Conley and Parker playing together, and no Green would leave a gaping hole.
Sign and trades are less common now because they don't allow the 7.5% raises (only 4.5%) and only four year deals (not five).
Only 3m of Diaw's 6.5m is guaranteed. I may be wrong, but I think if they buy him out and stretch the 3m for 5 years, the cap hit will be very small.
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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard
Have you see the PG free agent class for 2017? Every all star PG in the league will be a free agent. Conley is gonna be 30 and he's slow.We need to replace Tim and some of the bench
No income tax in texas too, in cali he would spend a extra 13% on his earnings assuming he doesnt have loopholes. He would also be spending less on his non nba income from nike which far exceeds his earnings. Tbh I dont think he cares about a max just for the money, if he had to take less for a team he thinks he could win on, he would take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpursforSix
well they're probably not getting Curry, Westbrook, or Paul. But Lowry, Schroeder, and Holiday would all be significantly better than Conley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Empty
^ Only Lowry. Holiday just isn't that good and if your worried about Conley's injury history, well don't look at Holiday's. Plus Lowry is playing beyond himself the last 2 season. Conley has steadily becoming better. For the record, I would rather Lowry, but I'll take Conley saying yes this year than hoping Lowry would the next year.
Yeah...I agree with that and I'm sure that's the thinking of the FO. Need to get better right now and Conley certainly helps along those lines. I actually like Conley and he'd give them enough years for them to be able to maybe find a young talent to develop at the position.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Indazone
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Spurs would need to get rid of everyone but Kawhi and LMA to sign 2 max guys. No way that will happen, but if they can convince Conley and KD to take 20 mil instead of the max then obviously that leaves quite a bit more flexibility to keep current guys.
WTF? really? nobody ain't taking less for shit anymore.... the days of that bullshit is over....Quote:
Originally Posted by rasuo214
I like Conley, but not paying the max, however it seems that KD stay in okc or go to gsw, FO will need to do some magic to stay competitive if it happens
False, plenty of names have taken less. Heck, even the Wade, Bosh, Lebron trio did. I honestly do see Durant taking less to increase he chances of a title. But he makes up for it with a huge Nike deal. Conley though, he has never talked about being great, chasing a ring to improve his image etc. Which means he will want he market value.Quote:
Originally Posted by SequSpur