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Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
I think your average Brit racist didn't factor that bit into their "out of the EU" vote.
Whoops.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.
With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Won't be their first time, they just had a vote about 2 years ago.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Caddies at Ayrshire are Scotlands version of Boos hated 1% ers.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Hmmm. Should I have put that in blue?
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
fmedrano1977
Won't be their first time, they just had a vote about 2 years ago.
They voted to remain in the UK on the premise that their EU status would be preserved. Now that's out of the window, it's a free-for all.
Even Northern Ireland wants to reunite with the Republic now...
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.
With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.
Or they could do better with the EU than they could be with Britain because that is why they would be leaving: to rejoin the EU.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
In other words, the EU might be gaining another shitty economy to support.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Good for them. I hope they grow a pair and go independent, but unfortunately, they're still an über-liberal welfare state that lives off handouts from Britain. They'll talk tough about seceding like they do every other year, but they'll never go through with it for real.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Scotland's vote was nearly 60% remain. I doubt the SNP or any of their rivals dismiss the prospect of another referendum on Scottish independence as lightly as you do.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
I'm sure Deutsche bank will be happy to loan Scotland all the money it needs to keep the welfare state going if it votes to stay. They can be the new Greece.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
or, Scotland could kick its own pensioners and slugabeds in the nuts. they've already been considering the question:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-...itics-36621030
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
Winehole23
Scotland's vote was nearly 60% remain. I doubt the SNP or any of their rivals dismiss the prospect of another referendum on Scottish independence as lightly as you do.
I'm not dismissing the chance of another referendum. I'm sure they'll hold one. I just doubt that Scotland will ever actually vote in favor of secession. They'll talk a big game, but when push comes to shove and their handouts are on the line, they'll vote to stay in the UK.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Winehole23
why?
Because as long as the socialists are in charge to run Scotland into the ground, they're fucked if they get off the teat, and they know it. I suppose they could just start leeching off of Germany instead if they got into the EU, but it's not like that's guaranteed to happen even if they secede.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
Good for them. I hope they grow a pair and go independent, but unfortunately, they're still an über-liberal welfare state that lives off handouts from Britain. They'll talk tough about seceding like they do every other year, but they'll never go through with it for real.
What? :lol
Scotland will have a second referendum and be gone in the next two years. They deserve it, since they were smart enough unlike Wales and England to not fall into the rightwingnut 'dey took er jerbs' populist propoganda and actually voted in.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
LOL Cosmicgayboy talking out of his ass again. :lol
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
As usual, Reck can't come up with an intelligent post so just throws more monkey shit. Must suck to be a jealous stupid loser..
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Scotland should tread lightly. If more countries drop the EU, Scotland could find itself begging to rejoin the UK.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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dbestpro
Scotland should tread lightly. If more countries drop the EU, Scotland could find itself begging to rejoin the UK.
You could make the same argument about the UK:
The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
You could make the same argument about the UK:
The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.
More likely it'll be as Trump said - more countries leaving the EU - Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU (BEFORE BREXIT):
https://www.rt.com/news/346884-switz...tion-rejected/
Seems to me that the richer countries don't want to foot the bill for nations like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy which are in financial trouble.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.
Or France could secede from the EU next
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
They are all looking at those additional 2.5 million refugees across the border in Turkey.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
rmt
Seems to me that the richer countries don't want to foot the bill for nations like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy which are in financial trouble.
Those richer countries are making out like bandits both by bailing out those countries with loans and making sure none of those countries put them at a competitive disadvantage.
How are Germany or France going to remain competitive if any of these countries break out and devalue their currency? This is economics 101, the EU is simply much more powerful as a group than as individual countries.
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ElNono
Those richer countries are making out like bandits both by bailing out those countries with loans and making sure none of those countries put them at a competitive disadvantage.
How are Germany or France going to remain competitive if any of these countries break out and devalue their currency? This is economics 101, the EU is simply much more powerful as a group than as individual countries.
rtm got her info from a super realible source. She's right.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
Reck bringing the dumbass as usual.
Who gives a fuck if Greece devalues their currency? Olive oil and craft goods are cheaper?
They aren't going to put Volkwagen out of business and they just got a lot more expensive in Greece with a devalued currency.
Now all the loans from European banks that's another story. Deutsche might actually have to produce an honest balance sheet that reflects loans that will never be repaid.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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CosmicCowboy
Reck bringing the dumbass as usual.
Who gives a fuck if Greece devalues their currency? Olive oil and craft goods are cheaper?
They aren't going to put Volkwagen out of business and they just got a lot more expensive in Greece with a devalued currency.
Now all the loans from European banks that's another story. Deutsche might actually have to produce an honest balance sheet that reflects loans that will never be repaid.
Volkswagen won't think twice to go manufacture on cheap labor. Heck, probably half of their cars are Made in China already. That's how globalization works.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
They are all looking at those additional 2.5 million refugees across the border in Turkey.
Schengen is already falling apart. A number of countries have reinstituted border controls.
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Re: Scotland likely to seek independence after EU vote, first minister says
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Originally Posted by
CosmicCowboy
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.
With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.
That's not what the Scots think.
