Lowe: Spurs have extended a qualifying offer to Boban Marjanovic

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Originally Posted by CGD

Some team is gonna give him an Arenas offer sheet. Watch it be Dallas when they strike out on Whiteside and Howard

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Biggest fear right here. Boban starting for them at a cap figure of $14.5 Million is hardly an albatross, so we couldn't even :lol at them

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

Here's why Verde had a rough season, why Spurs had a tougher time manufacturing the most efficient shots in basketball, and why long 2 pick and pop play hurts weakside action and weakside open 3PA.

Good teams don't rotate to the Pick N pop long 2.

The weakside defenders stay at home on their man, while the defensive big involved in the pick and roll is concentrated on helping prevent the guard/wing from penetrating in the lane -- giving up the long 2. That hurts open 3 point attempts on the weakside and any action towards the basket from the weakside because the defensive player out on the wing pays more attention to the man their guarding. When Spurs had a diver, teams had to move their weakside defender over into the paint to prevent an easy bucket in the lane -- which opened up 3 point attempts on the outside.

That's why you didn't see 3 point flurries this past year like you did in previous years when Spurs had 48 minutes of divers in the game with Splitter and healthy TD -- Mills, Green, Neal, Manu ect would all have a field day. Having a diver induces all 5 guys on the defensive end to rotate and move -- which makes simple unselfish ball-movement so valuable. Spurs usually yielded the two most valuable shots in basketball with a diver incorporated in the offense (corner 3, wide open/uncontested 3 or layups/dunks in the lane). Having West/ Aldridge as pick and pop guys for 48 minutes made it really tough for Spurs to manufacture the best shots in basketball because teams simple were taking away the drives in PnR's and funnelling the shots to the long 2 pick and pop while the defenders on the weakside didn't have to move or expend any significant energy.

Not having a diver, allows good teams to use the 2 men in the pick and roll to funnel the shots to the long 2 while the weak-side defenders don't have to move or rotate -- they can just stay on their man.

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bullshit. Green missed plenty of open 3s all season.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

If the defending big closed out LMA would drive which forces a rotation typically opening up the weakside corner.. Again Duncan was already doing the pnp before Aldridge. He wasn't as good at it. LMA can roll to the basket.

Duncan's regression was our biggest issue as well as losing shooting off the bench.

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That's the thing, good teams don't run out to contest the long 2 pick and pop big -- thats the shot they want the Spurs to take bc its the worst shot in basketball (efficiency wise).

Having LMA pick N pop is okay ( not great) because he's elite at it and in the top 1%. But to have another pick N pop big who isn't as good as his back up like West kills the overall offense for the 48 minutes in the long run vs. good teams for the reasons I expressed in my previous post.

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

That's the thing, good teams don't run out to contest the long 2 pick and pop big -- thats the shot they want the Spurs to take bc its the worst shot in basketball (efficiency wise).

Having LMA pick N pop is okay ( not great) because he's elite at it and in the top 1%. But to have another pick N pop big who isn't as good as his back up like West kills the overall offense for the 48 minutes in the long run vs. good teams for the reasons I expressed in my previous post.

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'True scotsman argument' Fact is that even the teams in the finals had guys run out at that shot.

An uncontested shot is the best shot in basketball and I will take it. Who cares what the league rate is efficiency wise. LMA is top percentile so his efficiency is just fine. HE also has the ability to dive at the basket despite him taking the wide open look the defense is giving him.

Again, the biggest issue has been the offensive decline of Duncan. Splitter isn't going to stop them from packing the lane and he would just brick the shot. Blaming LMA is missing the point.

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

'True scotsman argument' Fact is that even the teams in the finals had guys run out at that shot.

An uncontested shot is the best shot in basketball and I will take it. Who cares what the league rate is efficiency wise. LMA is top percentile so his efficiency is just fine. HE also has the ability to dive at the basket despite him taking the wide open look the defense is giving him.

Again, the biggest issue has been the offensive decline of Duncan. Splitter isn't going to stop them from packing the lane and he would just brick the shot. Blaming LMA is missing the point.

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You clearly don't understand what I'm saying.

Carry on.

Day one is almost over and with all these ridiculous contract signings, Boban hasn't even got an offer yet? Wow, what's wrong with these NBA GM's? Don't they give a shit about PER?

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Originally Posted by MaNu4Tres

You clearly don't understand what I'm saying.

Carry on.

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I understand exactly what you're saying. You are saying that a roll man forces a weakside rotation thus opening up a layup from the slot or a 3 from the corner or wing. You are claiming that a pick and pop doesn't because 'good' defenses allow the shot and don't rotate.

I'm saying that we've been doing it with Duncan since forever and that LMA is better at Duncan at it since around 2009 or so. Given that I don't see how it 'hurts' more than people realize. I'm also saying that you are playing with hypotheticals and league average as opposed to how LMA, West, and the SPurs actually performed out of those looks; West is one of the best jump shooing 4's in his own right. I'm also saying that even the best defenses list GS, Tor, and Memphis would close out and rotate on that shot particularly after LMA hit a couple.

I'm saying what has actually hurt us was the decline of Duncan, Verde missing even wide open looks most of the year, and the lack of outside shooting on the second unit.

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Originally Posted by Hoops Czar

Day one is almost over and with all these ridiculous contract signings, Boban hasn't even got an offer yet? Wow, what's wrong with these NBA GM's? Don't they give a shit about PER?

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Boban has to meet with them as well. It's not all up to the other clubs.

hope this guy improves in the offseason

He will I want him back