Woj:San Antonio's Tim Duncan exercises player option

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I'm not sure actually. I would imagine SA might be able to pay him, but if he retires I don't think teams usually pay players for nothing.

To me, it's the same thing (circumventing the rules to an extent) as telling Tim that if he opts out SA will pay him 6M to be a "big man coach" or something.

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I'm not exactly clear either even after a Google search.

I think the Spurs can still choose to pay him for "Nothing" if he retired and it would count against this year's cap.

If that happens, then you can say it's Timmy screwing the team over but what if it was an under the table agreement last year that Timmy would retire this offseason and the Spurs would still pay him. It would have come out to around 10-11mil salary for Duncan last year which is more than fair considering he's the franchise and still one of the best defensive bigs in the league...

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Originally Posted by RD2191

I'll ride with Timmy. Fuck a ring. I just wanna see some Spurs basketball.

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And yet you bitch about every player that even sniffs joining the team.
You're so bullshit and I love you for it, big dog.

he is sucking up 5 or 6 million in cap space. WOW. compared to other unnamed nba players that held albatrosses on other teams I am sure the front office is more than happy to write that check.

Considering his personality and how much Timmy has sacrificed for the Spurs, the only scenario where this move makes sense is Duncan calling it quits tbh....

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Originally Posted by Mugen

Considering his personality and how much Timmy has sacrificed for the Spurs, the only scenario where this move makes sense is Duncan calling it quits tbh....

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and his contract gets traded before he announces his retirment

None of this makes sense tbh especially if we are going after Durant. I think something is brewing...

I don't think Spurs were going to gut the roster for Durant anyways, sounds like Spurs are confident they can get rid of Green or Parker if Durant comes.

Can you imagine? "The Spurs have traded Tim Duncan to the Philadelphia 76ers for..." :lol

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Originally Posted by Mugen

I'm not exactly clear either even after a Google search.

I think the Spurs can still choose to pay him for "Nothing" if he retired and it would count against this year's cap.

If that happens, then you can say it's Timmy screwing the team over but what if it was an under the table agreement last year that Timmy would retire this offseason and the Spurs would still pay him. It would have come out to around 10-11mil salary for Duncan last year which is more than fair considering he's the franchise and still one of the best defensive bigs in the league...

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I don't really think it's about screwing the franchise over - there has to be something I am missing (and others) about the benefit of excercising the option. I just don't see any upside for Tim let alone SA (unless they trade him like other say).

I am tweeting Larry Coon to see if he can answer the CBA rules on retiring.

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Originally Posted by RD2191

Cool ranch or nacho cheese?

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Salsa Verde GOAT

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Originally Posted by HankChinaski

he is sucking up 5 or 6 million in cap space. WOW. compared to other unnamed nba players that held albatrosses on other teams I am sure the front office is more than happy to write that check.

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Your motto is "Get Paycheck, Get Drunk"

:pop: is that you?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't really think it's about screwing the franchise over - there has to be something I am missing (and others) about the benefit of excercising the option. I just don't see any upside for Tim let alone SA (unless they trade him like other say).

I am tweeting Larry Coon to see if he can answer the CBA rules on retiring.

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Maybe he simply is done and wants what's coming to him...
We'll know more in the next couple of days, for sure.

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Originally Posted by Ron Swanson

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I wanna do this but I'm not sure why.

Two bad knees tbh... looked geriatric against Adams and Kanter in the playoffs. Don't blame him.


Look forward to Poop getting exposed as the coattail rider he is :wakeup

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Originally Posted by Mugen

I'm not exactly clear either even after a Google search.

I think the Spurs can still choose to pay him for "Nothing" if he retired and it would count against this year's cap.

If that happens, then you can say it's Timmy screwing the team over but what if it was an under the table agreement last year that Timmy would retire this offseason and the Spurs would still pay him. It would have come out to around 10-11mil salary for Duncan last year which is more than fair considering he's the franchise and still one of the best defensive bigs in the league...

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I checked Larry's CBA FAQ and it definitely appears you get your money if you retire. I can see Tim wanting his money if he retires and perhaps he's really just unsure. If he was going to play, I guess he opts out. But if he's truly unsure and a deadline was forced the only way for him to get his money would be to opt in.

It means the team has less chance to improve if he comes back, but I guess that is worth the risk if he's really weighing his options.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Your motto is "Get Paycheck, Get Drunk"

:pop: is that you?

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More of a Bukowski thing than anything else.

Surprising.

Not blaming him. Dude deserves every penny and then some. He's left more on the table than most would.

Like others, it makes me wonder how the Spurs attack this off season now.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

I don't understand this move. Doesn't this make it harder for the Spurs to lure a max free agent like KD?

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I don't know what to tell you at this stage. I have gone through a lot of ideas here, and he seemed to me more likely to retire than Manu, but Manu at least made it clear at this stage it is an individual decision.

I have since the very beginning been under the impression the major FA rumors were pipedreams, anyways so I am not disappointed that the clearing of cap space seems unlikely now. (Maybe the meeting with Durant is for next season assuming he does the 1&1 year deal with OKC)

Here you have the following:

1. Boris staying Spurs wish to keep him.
2. Timmy opts in.
3. Boban gets his QO, meaning Spurs intend to match offers for him within reason.
4. Bertans rumors of 2 years at 4 mill. He's paid higher than the minimum in Europe and has a $650k buyout. He's not coming here for the minimum.
5. All our first round stashes are likely coming over (LJC for sure, Milutinov declined to play for his national team in the Olympics!!! That is not peanuts Milutinov is leaving out there in terms of opportunities for personal growth and fun playing basketball in the olympic games, to show up for our summer league team. I tend to think Milutinov is at least at 50% or more probability to be picked up for next season, depending on the quality of his play. If Timmy is on the roster for next season, Milutinov is a potential minutes eater to spare Tim's body)
6. No moves to clear capspace during draft night despite rumors the Spurs were looking to move up in the draft aggressively, and all the rumors surrounding Danny Green.

Bottom line: We are rebuilding depth the old fashioned way, draft and develop. It seems next season is when we can add a significant FA.

Even the rumors about Pau don't make sense to me at this point.

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Originally Posted by tonight...you

Maybe he simply is done and wants what's coming to him...
We'll know more in the next couple of days, for sure.

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For sure - now that I'm 99% sure players can get paid if they retire (in most scenarios - which is crazy to me) that does make sense. However, you would think SA could give him a "job" that pays him the same while giving the team cap space if retirement was known.

Seems likely he's really torn

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I checked Larry's CBA FAQ and it definitely appears you get your money if you retire. I can see Tim wanting his money if he retires and perhaps he's really just unsure. If he was going to play, I guess he opts out. But if he's truly unsure and a deadline was forced the only way for him to get his money would be to opt in.

It means the team has less chance to improve if he comes back, but I guess that is worth the risk if he's really weighing his options.

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Maybe. But I don't know if I buy the unsure part. He's a smart guy and I'd imagine pretty in tune with the realistic options for who the Spurs can nab in Free Agency. He's also had a month+ to decide....

I think him opting in signals that Timmy will be retiring within the next day or two.

If he opted out, it would have been a sure fire sign that he was coming back for one more season.

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Originally Posted by tonight...you

Maybe he simply is done and wants what's coming to him...
We'll know more in the next couple of days, for sure.

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Why would he be meeting with Durant on Friday if he's retiring?

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I don't really think it's about screwing the franchise over - there has to be something I am missing (and others) about the benefit of excercising the option. I just don't see any upside for Tim let alone SA (unless they trade him like other say).

I am tweeting Larry Coon to see if he can answer the CBA rules on retiring.

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Think McDyess. Yes, the team can still pay him.

He's coming back.

Not that I expect Durant to choose the spurs, but would they really send Duncan to the pitch meeting where he's gna tell KD that he's retiring and eating cap on his way out?

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Originally Posted by spurs10

Great to hear! Tim will be important as a mentor to any new pieces we acquire and will likely help mold his inevitable successor.

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I hope they bring Milutinov over so he can learn a thing or two from Timmy.

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Originally Posted by Russ

Why would he be meeting with Durant on Friday if he's retiring?

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Move into an elder statesman role. Doesn't seem too weird.