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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
"These new guys will bring down the average age of the team, so we really won't be old anymore."
As long as the Spurs can bring in a couple of middle school players, they can keep their old guys for another 5-6 years.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Maybe Diaw gets motivated and back into shape. He is a great player when he is motivated. They can also always trade his contract away - should be easy to do, especailly at the trade deadline.
I am happy that they will not throw a max contract at Conley. At 29 and in 9 seasons he has played fewer than 73 games 5 times. This guy would be a Charles Smith and not the spider.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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GSH
"These new guys will bring down the average age of the team, so we really won't be old anymore."
As long as the Spurs can bring in a couple of middle school players, they can keep their old guys for another 5-6 years.
And happily ride the bench while the vets get the playing time. Fast Forward to the playoffs, vets getting cooked so Pop throws rookies to the wolves and they get torched.. "Well, I played them and that didn't help any"
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Little downside keeping Boris. You see if he comes to camp in shape and ready to play....if not he is a decent multi-faceted player on an expiring contract and makes enough $ that packaged with someone else can bring back decent piece. KD was always a long shot. Most likely scenario has always been returning most of the roster with most improvement coming from Europe, younger guys continuing to develop, & adding maybe one middle tier FA like Gasol. Most likely won't result in the LOB but gets you to 2nd round or WC finals which is the likely outcome of any moves outside signing KD.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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JonNOKC
Little downside keeping Boris. You see if he comes to camp in shape and ready to play....if not he is a decent multi-faceted player on an expiring contract and makes enough $ that packaged with someone else can bring back decent piece. KD was always a long shot. Most likely scenario has always been returning most of the roster with most improvement coming from Europe, younger guys continuing to develop, & adding maybe one middle tier FA like Gasol. Most likely won't result in the LOB but gets you to 2nd round or WC finals which is the likely outcome of any moves outside signing KD.
Spurs with Gasol have a good chance at beating OKC and even GS. I really don't think Durant is going anywhere considering how much GSW and Spurs have to do to get him.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Maybe they're trying to exploit contract-year Diaw, tbh... and frankly, even if fatass, he's always been one of the few mismatches we have against the Dubs...
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Spurstalk is in peak offseason form already, I see.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Love Boris but it's time to trade him for a younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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YGWHI
Love Boris but it's time to trade him for a younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player.
Cool, like who? And who is willing to trade this younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player for Boris?
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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YGWHI
Love Boris but it's time to trade him for a younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player.
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I. Hustle
Cool, like who? And who is willing to trade this younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player for Boris?
We're eagerly anticipating your reply.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
He's only going to keep getting fatter if we keep encouraging him with the tea/coffee machine memes. He thinks it's acceptable to be a fatass. For example this emoticon:
:bobo
and dumb ass tweets like this:
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
The Diaw hint is saying Spurs are going to get Batum.
Looks like Green's days are numbered.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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ceperez
The Diaw hint is saying Spurs are going to get Batum.
Looks like Green's days are numbered.
What Diaw hint? That he wasn't going to be cut?
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
If Durant says no to the Spurs then I think they pick up Pau Gasol who starts with LMA. Duncan comes off the bench. West is out. That team IS better than last year's even with an older Duncan. If history repeats itself and DM can contribute I could see TP playing with the Manu and Tim on the 2nd team. Although that is a long shot at best.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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YGWHI
Love Boris but it's time to trade him for a younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player.
We got ya with the slow motion king
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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K...
We got ya with the slow motion king
Funny that you bolded younger, because that's pretty much all that bum has going for him
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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I. Hustle
Cool, like who? And who is willing to trade this younger/taller/quicker/more athletic/better rebounder player for Boris?
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Keepin' it real
We're eagerly anticipating your reply.
We don't get that player just for Boris but a trade is a combination of players, picks, contracts....
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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TheGreatYacht
7 Mill to get benched in the playoffs for not bothering to rebound. Keep getting them checks, I suppose.
It's really $4 million. He was getting $3 million anyway which was a sunk cost. Speaking of sunk costs, do the $500k of weight incentives hit the cap or not? It's VERY unlikely he's ever below 254 pounds. If not, it's a $3.5 million additional base salary.
I've always expected the out in his deal to be AFTER this season as his $7 million is fully non-guaranteed and they have until 7/15 ... during the FA period ... to move him. So could be a huge facilitator for other teams next year and get pieces in return.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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buttsR4rebounding
If Durant says no to the Spurs then I think they pick up Pau Gasol who starts with LMA. Duncan comes off the bench. West is out. That team IS better than last year's even with an older Duncan. If history repeats itself and DM can contribute I could see TP playing with the Manu and Tim on the 2nd team. Although that is a long shot at best.
I think this could be a distinct possibility, provided Duncan would be okay coming off the bench. After years of seeing Manu do it, I'd like to think he could follow suit.
Rests Tim's legs and solves the rebounding problem the bench had last season. Plus Pau's ability to hit the midrange alongside LMA would stretch the paint even more. I would be a little concerned about both of them occupying the same areas of the court, but I think Pau could be a little more post-centric if needed.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Wild thought. Maybe Tony and Diaw will be traded together as a package.
Let the speculation begin...
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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YGWHI
We don't get that player just for Boris but a trade is a combination of players, picks, contracts....
I seriously doubt any team is going to want to pick up Boris. He's got a reputation of being a lazy player and no team wants that! The closest possibility is Atlanta.... maybe we get back Splitter!
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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cjw
It's really $4 million. He was getting $3 million anyway which was a sunk cost. Speaking of sunk costs, do the $500k of weight incentives hit the cap or not? It's VERY unlikely he's ever below 254 pounds. If not, it's a $3.5 million additional base salary.
I've always expected the out in his deal to be AFTER this season as his $7 million is fully non-guaranteed and they have until 7/15 ... during the FA period ... to move him. So could be a huge facilitator for other teams next year and get pieces in return.
Forgot all about the weight incentive. I'm not a cap expert, I'm sure Chinook can answer :tu
His contract can easily be traded, IMO. All KD has to do is give the nod and they'll get it done. The disappointing part was hearing Stein say that the Spurs' interest in Conley is "overstated"... It's basically Durant or bust at this point smh.
Replacing Miller/West/Martin with Murray/LJC/Bertans isn't going to move the needle at all. Another wasted year of LMA and Kawhi's prime.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
Diaw is good for when we play Golden State and Cleveland. That's all we need him for and that's why he is still important.
That's who you will play in the wcf and nba championship. He's usefull when it matters not the regular season.
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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TheGreatYacht
Forgot all about the weight incentive. I'm not a cap expert, I'm sure
Chinook can answer :tu
His contract can easily be traded, IMO. All KD has to do is give the nod and they'll get it done. The disappointing part was hearing Stein say that the Spurs' interest in Conley is "overstated"... It's basically Durant or bust at this point smh.
Replacing Miller/West/Martin with Murray/LJC/Bertans isn't going to move the needle at all. Another wasted year of LMA and Kawhi's prime.
You forgot Bonner.. he's already scheduled meetings with the Spurs, Subway and a Chevy dealership
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Re: Marc Stein: Spurs to keep Diaw; interest in Conley "overstated"
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TheGreatYacht
Replacing Miller/West/Martin with Murray/LJC/Bertans isn't going to move the needle at all. Another wasted year of LMA and Kawhi's prime.
That's more length and youth! Consider the impotence of Miller/West/Martin in the playoffs... any contribution from any of these 3 will be worth it.