Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED

Tired of hearing how much a supposed bargain he is. DG ain't no bargain when he sucks most of the time.

When he isn't hitting shots, which again is most of the time, he sucks. He ain't had it going from 3 in 2 years, and that INCLUDES RS AND PLAYOFFS. If there is one reason why we lost on the playoffs the last few years, THAT NO ONE TALKS ABOUT, it was him. Because our STARTING SHOOTING GUARD CAN'T SHOOT FOR SHIT.

What's worse, he can't create. Teams learned to run him of the 3 hard, ESPECIALLY IN THE PLAYOFFS, because they know they have nothing to fear. He can hardly drive and kick at all, and he damn sure can't DRIVE AND SCORE.

Turns out the only thing DG is good for is his D, which he is elite at.

But that ain't worth 8m a year, is it? The d league is littered with great defenders, just like DG, who can't shoot for shit. Worth the minimum only.

Also funny how morons blamed Kawi, even though he put up a little better than his RS numbers. Somehow, Kawi was supposed to average 35 while doing dpoy work, lol. But not a single thread was made calling out Green and his 2 year paid vacation for 16m.

Again, Green is way overrated by Spurs fans. There is no such thing as a 2 year drought. He just can't fucking shoot anymore.

If I were Spurs FO, I would trade him for anything reasonable, like the highest pic we'd get in a draft, or whatever else we can get for him.

DG has Malik Rose illnesses:

got paid, MIA ever since.

Spurs need to make it someone else's problem.

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OP is a faggot

Again, we really have to get some type of rule to prevent random threads up in here.

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Yeah he shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, and played his best basketball of the season when it mattered, and was our third best player in the postseason.. Blame some of the bench players that didn't show up, and please get his salary right next time.

He has another year like last year and you won't find any bidders for a one-trick 30yr old SG.

While Reddick and Durant have shitted on his defense these last two years, he's still better than Manu.

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He has another year like last year and you won't find any bidders for a one-trick 30yr old SG.

While Reddick and Durant have shitted on his defense these last two years, he's still better than Manu.

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This.

Spurs should trade him this off season,

and MAYBE they get a little something.

After next year's brick building they can forget it.

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Yeah he shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, and played his best basketball of the season when it mattered, and was our third best player in the postseason.. Blame some of the bench players that didn't show up, and please get his salary right next time.

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Yep, one of the few who shows up when it really matters. Game 7 against LAC he was one of the few to really show up as well, he did bad all series but shows up when it matters most of the time. He is a keeper.

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Who vastly overrates him? I don't see anyone on this board vastly overrating him. About half have a healthy respect for his elite D while wishing he was more consistent with the 3 part. The other half say he isn't worth it because when he is not hitting 3's he is near useless at the offensive end. I don't see anyone vastly overrating him. He can be slightly overrated but still be worth 8 million (your number). You even added a question mark on the end because you can't say he isn't worth 8 million. BTW, asking if he is worth what he is being paid might be a better question.

Useless thread. We all know this shit already. Nobody vastly overrates him.

I agree about his dribbling. Also agree we didn't lose because of him. If he could spend the entire summer on his dribbling it would be nice. I think Tim can dribble better and I cringe when Tim holds the ball too long.

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Man that would be amazing. The quality of thread and discussions in general is so bad, it makes it tough on the posters who actually want to have real discussion.

Idk who the Moderators are, but sheesh.

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Who vastly overrates him? I don't see anyone on this board vastly overrating him. About half have a healthy respect for his elite D while wishing he was more consistent with the 3 part. The other half say he isn't worth it because when he is not hitting 3's he is near useless at the offensive end. I don't see anyone vastly overrating him. He can be slightly overrated but still be worth 8 million (your number). You even added a question mark on the end because you can't say he isn't worth 8 million. BTW, asking if he is worth what he is being paid might be a better question.

Useless thread. We all know this shit already. Nobody vastly overrates him.

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Wellllllllll, it's pretty obvious why the thread was made....why are you guys saying mean things about Kawhi?:cry What about blaming EVERYONE else?:cry Stop saying mean things about Kawhi :cry

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Yeah he shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, and played his best basketball of the season when it mattered, and was our third best player in the postseason.. Blame some of the bench players that didn't show up, and please get his salary right next time.

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Pretty much all that needs to be said haha.

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Yeah he shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, and played his best basketball of the season when it mattered, and was our third best player in the postseason.. Blame some of the bench players that didn't show up, and please get his salary right next time.

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He is what he is. If he were better we'd have had to pay him a lot more. Danny was a marginal NBA player the Spurs developed into a legit starter on a contender (and past champion). Well done by him and the organization.

OP dropping truth bombs. Bold this man.

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Wellllllllll, it's pretty obvious why the thread was made....why are you guys saying mean things about Kawhi?:cry What about blaming EVERYONE else?:cry Stop saying mean things about Kawhi :cry

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Ohhhh, that must be it. How silly of me...

Danny Green is a fucking cancer.

DG is a spot op shooter. Acquiring LA took alot of shots away from him. Need to get a passing PG to get him more shots.

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OP has proven to be one of the worst posters in ST history time and time again.

Nah Green is fine

Just needs to shoot from deep as well as he did in the playoffs and we're good to go. Unless Acne is coming, Green is not going anywhere.

Green is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league and is important next to Kawhi.

In before the next "Start Simmons" thread.

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Turns out the only thing DG is good for is his D, which he is elite at.

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Debatable. He played high level defense in the 2014 Finals. Other times, his man finds his way around him all too easy. He is maybe the best help defender at SG in the league though.

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he needs to stop making commercials and work on his game

Green is the 2nd most polarizing and criticized player on SpursTalk(only behind Tony Parker), which automatically disqualifies him from being overrated, tbh..

He might be the face of the "analytics vs. eye test" debate in today's league, though..most of his haters fall in the latter group, while on the other side, he's an advanced metrics monster..

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There is no thread about Verde on the first page and he is not a random subject.

Green had an off year. It happens. But he has proven to be clutch for us at times and regardless is still one of the best defenders in the league and making only $10mil.

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Green is the 2nd most polarizing and criticized player on SpursTalk(only behind Tony Parker), which automatically disqualifies him from being overrated, tbh..

He might be the face of the "analytics vs. eye test" debate in today's league, though..most of his haters fall in the latter group, while on the other side, he's an advanced metrics monster..

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Further to that, it seems like his defense goes unnoticed but is among the best at his position. But you do really notice his screw ups on D because it's usually missed rotations resulting in his guy getting an open shot.

Green is a top 30 three point shooter by percentage in league history and an elite defender. Well worth every dollar.

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Further to that, it seems like his defense goes unnoticed but is among the best at his position. But you do really notice his screw ups on D because it's usually missed rotations resulting in his guy getting an open shot.

Green is a top 30 three point shooter by percentage in league history and an elite defender. Well worth every dollar.

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His defense is good at times and god-awful at times, he's a weak minded player. When he's on and hitting and playing defense, he is a steal. When he is one or the other, he is overpriced. He sucked ass last year.

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Love how you just throw that out there no big deal. :rolleyes

No, actually, he's not, and especially not on that contract. His defence, especially in transition and against particular players, is elite, and he sure can drain that 3-ball.

I think he'll have a bounce back season in 2016-17 now that he's adjusted to the new style of play.

Danny is not overrated. Elite defender, good to great 3 pt. Shooter. Very Important piece.

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Green is the 2nd most polarizing and criticized player on SpursTalk(only behind Tony Parker), which automatically disqualifies him from being overrated, tbh..

He might be the face of the "analytics vs. eye test" debate in today's league, though..most of his haters fall in the latter group, while on the other side, he's an advanced metrics monster..

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Metrics will never tell the whole story and stats are largely worthless when not evaluated in context.

Let's say we have a player who puts up 50 points, 20 boards, and 10 assists on 20/20 shooting every other game. In the other game, he averages 2 points, 0 boards, 0 assists on 1-10 shooting. His season average would be 26ppg, 10rpg, 5apg on 70%. His advanced metrics would be through the roof, but the eye test would tell us that this particular player can never put two good games together in a row, which is big liability to have for a star player.

This is obviously an extreme example, but it illustrates the problems with any statistical method of analysis. And Danny kind of fit that pattern in the OKC series. Oh yeah, his series stats were "great." 10.8ppg on .514 shooting from 3. But when you examine them in context, he shot 5-6 from 3 in a game 1 blowout. Was poor-to-mediocre over the next 2 games (he was okay in game 3), and then shot 6-8 from 3 in game 5. And then disappeared again.

Danny goes from one extreme to the other. He rarely gives us a consistent 8-10 points on 40% shooting from 3 every game. It's 17 points on 5-6 from 3 and then 3 points on 1-8 shooting the next game.

This also why I think advanced metrics needs some type of "consistency metric."

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Metrics will never tell the whole story and stats are largely worthless when not evaluated in context.

Let's say we have a player who puts up 50 points, 20 boards, and 10 assists on 20/20 shooting every other game. In the other game, he averages 2 points, 0 boards, 0 assists on 1-10 shooting. His season average would be 26ppg, 10rpg, 5apg on 70%. His advanced metrics would be through the roof, but the eye test would tell us that this particular player can never put two good games together in a row, which is big liability to have for a star player.

This is obviously an extreme example, but it illustrates the problems with any statistical method of analysis. And Danny kind of fit that pattern in the OKC series. Oh yeah, his series stats were "great." 10.8ppg on .514 shooting from 3. But when you examine them in context, he shot 5-6 from 3 in a game 1 blowout. Was poor-to-mediocre over the next 2 games (he was okay in game 3), and then shot 6-8 from 3 in game 5. And then disappeared again.

Danny goes from one extreme to the other. He rarely gives us a consistent 8-10 points on 40% shooting from 3 every game. It's 17 points on 5-6 from 3 and then 3 points on 1-8 shooting the next game.

This also why I think advanced metrics needs some type of "consistency metric."

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I never realized how much we needed this until now. Good shit. Just to add on, this metric would have to take into account stat outbursts in a way that wouldn't be over penalized, if penalized at all. Otherwise, such a stat might say Kawhi was the best scorer in the league.

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Metrics will never tell the whole story and stats are largely worthless when not evaluated in context.

Let's say we have a player who puts up 50 points, 20 boards, and 10 assists on 20/20 shooting every other game. In the other game, he averages 2 points, 0 boards, 0 assists on 1-10 shooting. His season average would be 26ppg, 10rpg, 5apg on 70%. His advanced metrics would be through the roof, but the eye test would tell us that this particular player can never put two good games together in a row, which is big liability to have for a star player.

This is obviously an extreme example, but it illustrates the problems with any statistical method of analysis. And Danny kind of fit that pattern in the OKC series. Oh yeah, his series stats were "great." 10.8ppg on .514 shooting from 3. But when you examine them in context, he shot 5-6 from 3 in a game 1 blowout. Was poor-to-mediocre over the next 2 games (he was okay in game 3), and then shot 6-8 from 3 in game 5. And then disappeared again.

Danny goes from one extreme to the other. He rarely gives us a consistent 8-10 points on 40% shooting from 3 every game. It's 17 points on 5-6 from 3 and then 3 points on 1-8 shooting the next game.

This also why I think advanced metrics needs some type of "consistency metric."

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Sure, but this is the case with virtually every role player, it's why they're role players..I would bet that it's rare to find great role players that show offensive consistency in their scoring..

Shit, you could even use that logic with some superstars like Kobe, tbh..

You need to watch some clips of games 3-4 of 2014 Finals. The Heat thought the same thing.

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Sure, but this is the case with virtually every role player, it's why they're role players..I would bet that it's rare to find great role players that show offensive consistency in their scoring..

Shit, you could even use that logic with some superstars like Kobe, tbh..

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Yeah, that's why I'd love to come up with a consistency stat. Danny just seemed particularly egregious this year with his offensive consistency. Like I said, it was an outburst one game and a disappearing act the next.

His nutsack doesn't shrivel up when the real season starts. He's also the Spurs second best defender. Hard to replace all of that.

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Metrics will never tell the whole story and stats are largely worthless when not evaluated in context.

Let's say we have a player who puts up 50 points, 20 boards, and 10 assists on 20/20 shooting every other game. In the other game, he averages 2 points, 0 boards, 0 assists on 1-10 shooting. His season average would be 26ppg, 10rpg, 5apg on 70%. His advanced metrics would be through the roof, but the eye test would tell us that this particular player can never put two good games together in a row, which is big liability to have for a star player.

This is obviously an extreme example, but it illustrates the problems with any statistical method of analysis. And Danny kind of fit that pattern in the OKC series. Oh yeah, his series stats were "great." 10.8ppg on .514 shooting from 3. But when you examine them in context, he shot 5-6 from 3 in a game 1 blowout. Was poor-to-mediocre over the next 2 games (he was okay in game 3), and then shot 6-8 from 3 in game 5. And then disappeared again.

Danny goes from one extreme to the other. He rarely gives us a consistent 8-10 points on 40% shooting from 3 every game. It's 17 points on 5-6 from 3 and then 3 points on 1-8 shooting the next game.

This also why I think advanced metrics needs some type of "consistency metric."

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Quality post - always go back to context. People don't understand that here. You have the Chinooks of the world who are can post some really sound stuff, and then interpret data incredibly wrong - and try to justify, not taking into account what lead to X stat in the first place. BUT....... that is how the game has always been explained.. ppg rpg apg etc.

I am not ready to give up on Green after one really bad year shooting the ball. Even Green said the hardest thing he was dealing with was developing "chemistry" with new teammates. I feel that he is very much a finesse player and if something upsets that balance, it throws off his own game but some posters on here forget so easily this guy broke the Finals record for 3's in 2013. He can shoot and in this league you don't have to do a lot but shoot great from 3 and play decent defense, both things that Green does much better than most comparable players at his position. If he has another bad year, I might be willing to side with you but you can't judge the guy based off of one year when he has done so much for us in the past. I am pretty sure he wasn't sitting on his laurels this offseason and will come back ready to contribute bc I think he is his own worst critic.

Just like Cojo was overrated.

I heard that for two years and then he had a very good year in Toronto. In fact, If Cojo had been on the roster still, the Spurs beat the Thunder.

People need to think before they make crazy statements.

Danny is a damn good defender, especially in transition. Most certainly, his offense was sub par for his standards last year, but I feel very confident that he comes back and has a great year.

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I am not ready to give up on Green after one really bad year shooting the ball. Even Green said the hardest thing he was dealing with was developing "chemistry" with new teammates. I feel that he is very much a finesse player and if something upsets that balance, it throws off his own game but some posters on here forget so easily this guy broke the Finals record for 3's in 2013. He can shoot and in this league you don't have to do a lot but shoot great from 3 and play decent defense, both things that Green does much better than most comparable players at his position. If he has another bad year, I might be willing to side with you but you can't judge the guy based off of one year when he has done so much for us in the past. I am pretty sure he wasn't sitting on his laurels this offseason and will come back ready to contribute bc I think he is his own worst critic.

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meh - dude was missing wide open threes. don't need chemistry for that.

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meh - dude was missing wide open threes. don't need chemistry for that.

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Wrong, they were ¨affecting his confidence¨, you can hurt DG feelings if you dont treat him good, he can cry and the whole game suffers, such an ELITE defender and prolific 3 pointer ever needs everything just in place, maybe there was a bad vibe on the crowd, maybe someone farted at the stadium and game cant be played this way, maybe when he went to the bank dollars had a funny smell, pollution, etc...
Cant judge honestly, especially when he´s been sucking for 2 seasons in a row and scrubs here try to make it like it was just one season.

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Yep, one of the few who shows up when it really matters. Game 7 against LAC he was one of the few to really show up as well, he did bad all series but shows up when it matters most of the time. He is a keeper.

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol

http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg

Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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Just like Cojo was overrated.

I heard that for two years and then he had a very good year in Toronto. In fact, If Cojo had been on the roster still, the Spurs beat the Thunder.

People need to think before they make crazy statements.

Danny is a damn good defender, especially in transition. Most certainly, his offense was sub par for his standards last year, but I feel very confident that he comes back and has a great year.

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I didn't edit the above in any way other than adding the bold. True story.

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oh look I found 4 morons who should just kill themselves

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Nice. Properly imbalanced, just like I expected.

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Nice. Properly imbalanced, just like I expected.

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Kill yourself

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Kill yourself

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He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol

http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg

Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..

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real truth nuke here. I see why Chinook gets so defensive of Green. so many morons that post in these anti Green threads

^^Hating on Green is fine, I can understand people that are frustrated with his inconsistency and inability to handle the ball..

The problem is virtually all the Green haters want to replace him with inferior role players that have the same issues with inconsistency:lol

The Cavs just won a title with Richard Jefferson as their best perimeter role player:lol

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real truth nuke here. I see why Chinook gets so defensive of Green. so many morons that post in these anti Green threads

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Simpletons love volume stats rather than going game by game. I feel you, brother.
Why don't you go look at the OKC series and tell me how consistently good Danny was throughout that series.

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Simpletons love volume stats rather than going game by game. I feel you, brother.
Why don't you go look at the OKC series and tell me how consistently good Danny was throughout that series.

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told you to kill yourself, faggot. done talking to you

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^^Hating on Green is fine, I can understand people that are frustrated with his inconsistency and inability to handle the ball..

The problem is virtually all the Green haters want to replace him with inferior role players that have the same issues with inconsistency:lol

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I actually don't want him replaced at all, personally. I'm just calling a spade a spade.

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told you to kill yourself, faggot. done talking to you

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^^Hating on Green is fine, I can understand people that are frustrated with his inconsistency and inability to handle the ball..

The problem is virtually all the Green haters want to replace him with inferior role players that have the same issues with inconsistency:lol

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That's fine. These anti Green threads are just so fucking repetitive. It must be how Parker fans feel like with all the anti Parker threads

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Yeah...people are morons and should kill themselves if they have a different opinion from yours!

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Yeah...people are morons and should kill themselves if they have a different opinion from yours!

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He's "regulating".

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Simpletons love volume stats rather than going game by game. I feel you, brother.
Why don't you go look at the OKC series and tell me how consistently good Danny was throughout that series.

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No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.

He also played incredible defense which again no one values.

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He's "regulating".

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Mount up!

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No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.

He also played incredible defense which again no one values.

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Green had the highest adjusted on/off of any Spur in the OKC series, along with shooting over 50% from 3..only Kawhi and Aldridge had positive on/off numbers among all other Spurs in the series:lol

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That's such bullshit. Shows up when it really matters? Game 7? It's the fucking playoffs. ALL of the games matter. Some of you guys have such a raging hard on for the guy it's ridiculous. You give him a pass and shit all over our all stars. It's unbelievable. He's had what two or three good games in the last two playoffs combined. Sime of you guys are still shooting your wads over the 3 or 4 games he was on fire against the heat when we lost. Newsflash guys. He SUCKED after they learned how to run him off the line and we lost.
Fuck Danny Green!

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Best offseason post so far.

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No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.

He also played incredible defense which again no one values.

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No argument there. It's obviously why Pop keeps him on the floor and he shows his defensive value over and over.
His offensive value is like playing a bad scratch off though and at times, his D just cannot make up for it.

Like I said though, and especially for the price being paid- I wouldn't replace the man. The guy needs to seriously work on some basic facets of the game, though.


It's also completely obvious that Pop keeps him on the floor for D and considers his O pure gravy in how short a leash he keeps on him when he blows a D assignment.
Danny is not on the floor to shoot, he's on the floor to D up.

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No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.

He also played incredible defense which again no one values.

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He doesn't play incredible defense consistently. I don't know why you keep pushing this. He is very bad at defense sometimes too. His inconsistency can be in the same game too.

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He doesn't play incredible defense consistently. I don't know why you keep pushing this. He is very bad at defense sometimes too. His inconsistency can be in the same game too.

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We aren't going to agree on this one my friend.

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We aren't going to agree on this one my friend.

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Agreed

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Green had the highest adjusted on/off of any Spur in the OKC series, along with shooting over 50% from 3..only Kawhi and Aldridge had positive on/off numbers among all other Spurs in the series:lol

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Whee! Volume stats!

Just to put things in perspective, these were the perimeter role players on the final 4 teams: Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala, DeMarre Carroll, Terrence Ross, Andre Roberson, Dion Waiters, JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson:lol

Only Iguodala shows any consistency among the bunch, tbh..most of the others are terrible..

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Whee! Volume stats!

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5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..

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Just to put things in perspective, these were the perimeter role players on the final 4 teams: Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala, DeMarre Carroll, Terrence Ross, Andre Roberson, Dion Waiters, JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson:lol

Only Iguodala shows any consistency among the bunch, tbh..most of the others are terrible..

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True. Good point.

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5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..

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Game by game though shows his wild ups and downs. Even during the playoffs. That's my point.

Instead of a steady, you know what you're going to get, kind of play- you're getting a lotto's chance every game.
Could be great, could be zippo with some ugly defensive lapses in between.

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5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..

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But your previous showing of what the wings were in the Final 4 teams was telling, to me.
You're right about consistency and maybe I'm just asking too much from him. I want him to shore up some truly basic weaknesses though that should have already happened in his career.

Maybe that is what pisses me off about him...

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He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol

http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg

Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..

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2015 Playoffs

http://dc737.4shared.com/img/ym21Eer...00385969891198

2016 Playoffs
http://dc737.4shared.com/img/4d-69wc...24940065661552

And this is being generous because he plays for the Spurs, in any other team he would be eating bench or waived, system playa.

Advanced metrics don't win championships.

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Game by game though shows his wild ups and downs. Even during the playoffs. That's my point.

Instead of a steady, you know what you're going to get, kind of play- you're getting a lotto's chance every game.
Could be great, could be zippo with some ugly defensive lapses in between.

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If DG has ugly defensive lapses then every other SG is basically a garbage defender. No one is perfect - he is the best SG defender in the league IMO but no worse than top 3.

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Advanced metrics don't win championships.

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Danny has won championships. Hi BTW.

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No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.

He also played incredible defense which again no one values.

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Exactly, that's Bouroursis' job.

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If DG has ugly defensive lapses then every other SG is basically a garbage defender. No one is perfect - he is the best SG defender in the league IMO but no worse than top 3.

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No argument. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. He has 'em. That's why Pop repeatedly pulls him out of the blue throughout the season and puts Anderson, or McCallum for a minute so it can soak in.

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Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?

I agree with the defense assessment tho.

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Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?

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Not IMO. While it's possible, to me, DG has earned the right to call this offensive season a fluke. New star on the team, big adjustments, etc...

He still had maybe his best defensive year and that is his value. On top of that, he lit up the playoffs shooting the 3-ball so that gives me supreme hope as well.

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Green had the highest adjusted on/off of any Spur in the OKC series, along with shooting over 50% from 3..only Kawhi and Aldridge had positive on/off numbers among all other Spurs in the series:lol

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lol you're silly

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Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?

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Him and Mills need to go see this Voodoo priestess I happen to know out on the outskirts of Aransas Pass... A little blood, lot's of liquor too hard to stomach... Get that shit fixed up real quick.

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Not IMO. While it's possible, to me, DG has earned the right to call this offensive season a fluke. New star on the team, big adjustments, etc...

He still had maybe his best defensive year and that is his value. On top of that, he lit up the playoffs shooting the 3-ball so that gives me supreme hope as well.

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He did seem to step it up a bit in the post season. I'm not giving up on the dude. I would just like to see a little more '14 DG. Patty too. I'm really optimistic about next season.

Even after the worse possible season from Danny Green last year he would be receiving a larger contract than he has this year. What a bargain. Sacrificing for the team.:worthy:

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2015 Playoffs

http://dc737.4shared.com/img/ym21Eer...00385969891198

2016 Playoffs
http://dc737.4shared.com/img/4d-69wc...24940065661552

And this is being generous because he plays for the Spurs, in any other team he would be eating bench or waived, system playa.

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You're just showing me that he's inconsistent on offense, which is what I expect from a role player:lol

Who are these role players you guys are looking at that are consistently good on offense?

The Cavs just won a title with 2 players dominating and no other player consistently showing up in any series(their best role players were Tristan Thompson and Richard Jefferson, neither was particularly consistent)..the Warriors were 1 game away from the title, and their starting "perimeter role player" had one of the worst playoff runs I've ever seen from a starter..

Lol at people "not giving up" on Green as if he wasn't the best defensive guard in the league last season. Advanced metrics aren't volume stats. What kind of a contention is that? That said, he could definitely be more consistent. At the same time, though, it's really hard to be consistent at throwing a piece of rubber through a small circle that's 10 feet in the air and at least 23 feet away. Even more so when that circle is parallel to the ground.

People haven't realized that Danny's 20-point games are gravy and should be taken as such. His role on offense is to be guarded, not to score. People acting like Green taking three or fewer shots a game is some failure on his part are clueless. Him not getting those shots meant that whoever took them had a much easier time of it. For Christ's sake, the Thunder used Roberson on him as much as they used him on Kawhi. How many role-players draw the best defender on the other team? Ray Allen?

Green is not vastly overrated. That you're bitching about his consistency shows how much it affects the team. If a guy is so critical that he is swinging games in your mind despite being the fifth option on offense, he seems to warrant pretty high regard.

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He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol

http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg

Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..

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I didn't even have to respond because you did it for me, so the two posters who posted truth nukes after that do your research before you speak or hate on the guy.

Yep, but that is only 2 or three good games remember.

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Best offseason post so far.

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If you look at his 3 pt % it is not true though, at least not all of it. There is a median ground here and both sides have arguments. Danny has shot well in the playoffs for the 5 years he has been here, a very high % from three.

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the Warriors were 1 game away from the title, and their starting "perimeter role player" had one of the worst playoff runs I've ever seen from a starter..

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And that role player is on the verge of a max contract.