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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Green had the highest adjusted on/off of any Spur in the OKC series, along with shooting over 50% from 3..only Kawhi and Aldridge had positive on/off numbers among all other Spurs in the series:lol
Whee! Volume stats!
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Just to put things in perspective, these were the perimeter role players on the final 4 teams: Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala, DeMarre Carroll, Terrence Ross, Andre Roberson, Dion Waiters, JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson:lol
Only Iguodala shows any consistency among the bunch, tbh..most of the others are terrible..
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
tonight...you
Whee! Volume stats!
5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
:lol:toast
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Just to put things in perspective, these were the perimeter role players on the final 4 teams: Harrison Barnes, Andre Iguodala, DeMarre Carroll, Terrence Ross, Andre Roberson, Dion Waiters, JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, Richard Jefferson:lol
Only Iguodala shows any consistency among the bunch, tbh..most of the others are terrible..
True. Good point.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..
Game by game though shows his wild ups and downs. Even during the playoffs. That's my point.
Instead of a steady, you know what you're going to get, kind of play- you're getting a lotto's chance every game.
Could be great, could be zippo with some ugly defensive lapses in between.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
5-season + playoffs sample size is huge, tbh..
But your previous showing of what the wings were in the Final 4 teams was telling, to me.
You're right about consistency and maybe I'm just asking too much from him. I want him to shore up some truly basic weaknesses though that should have already happened in his career.
Maybe that is what pisses me off about him...
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol
http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg
Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..
2015 Playoffs
http://dc737.4shared.com/img/ym21Eer...00385969891198
2016 Playoffs
http://dc737.4shared.com/img/4d-69wc...24940065661552
And this is being generous because he plays for the Spurs, in any other team he would be eating bench or waived, system playa.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Advanced metrics don't win championships.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
tonight...you
Game by game though shows his wild ups and downs. Even during the playoffs. That's my point.
Instead of a steady, you know what you're going to get, kind of play- you're getting a lotto's chance every game.
Could be great, could be zippo with some ugly defensive lapses in between.
If DG has ugly defensive lapses then every other SG is basically a garbage defender. No one is perfect - he is the best SG defender in the league IMO but no worse than top 3.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
ohmwrecker
Advanced metrics don't win championships.
Danny has won championships. Hi BTW.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
No one outside of Kawhi & LMA in the first half of the series was good. Danny isn't supposed to be saviour especially in the playoffs although he's played that role many times.
He also played incredible defense which again no one values.
Exactly, that's Bouroursis' job.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
If DG has ugly defensive lapses then every other SG is basically a garbage defender. No one is perfect - he is the best SG defender in the league IMO but no worse than top 3.
No argument. Doesn't mean I'm wrong. He has 'em. That's why Pop repeatedly pulls him out of the blue throughout the season and puts Anderson, or McCallum for a minute so it can soak in.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Danny has won championships. Hi BTW.
Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
I agree with the defense assessment tho.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
ohmwrecker
Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?
Not IMO. While it's possible, to me, DG has earned the right to call this offensive season a fluke. New star on the team, big adjustments, etc...
He still had maybe his best defensive year and that is his value. On top of that, he lit up the playoffs shooting the 3-ball so that gives me supreme hope as well.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
Green had the highest adjusted on/off of any Spur in the OKC series, along with shooting over 50% from 3..only Kawhi and Aldridge had positive on/off numbers among all other Spurs in the series:lol
lol you're silly
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
ohmwrecker
Hey, buddy. More of a general statement, but man, it seems like he's lost his mojo a bit, yeah?
Him and Mills need to go see this Voodoo priestess I happen to know out on the outskirts of Aransas Pass... A little blood, lot's of liquor too hard to stomach... Get that shit fixed up real quick.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
DPG21920
Not IMO. While it's possible, to me, DG has earned the right to call this offensive season a fluke. New star on the team, big adjustments, etc...
He still had maybe his best defensive year and that is his value. On top of that, he lit up the playoffs shooting the 3-ball so that gives me supreme hope as well.
He did seem to step it up a bit in the post season. I'm not giving up on the dude. I would just like to see a little more '14 DG. Patty too. I'm really optimistic about next season.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Even after the worse possible season from Danny Green last year he would be receiving a larger contract than he has this year. What a bargain. Sacrificing for the team.:worthy:
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
Mikeanaro
You're just showing me that he's inconsistent on offense, which is what I expect from a role player:lol
Who are these role players you guys are looking at that are consistently good on offense?
The Cavs just won a title with 2 players dominating and no other player consistently showing up in any series(their best role players were Tristan Thompson and Richard Jefferson, neither was particularly consistent)..the Warriors were 1 game away from the title, and their starting "perimeter role player" had one of the worst playoff runs I've ever seen from a starter..
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Lol at people "not giving up" on Green as if he wasn't the best defensive guard in the league last season. Advanced metrics aren't volume stats. What kind of a contention is that? That said, he could definitely be more consistent. At the same time, though, it's really hard to be consistent at throwing a piece of rubber through a small circle that's 10 feet in the air and at least 23 feet away. Even more so when that circle is parallel to the ground.
People haven't realized that Danny's 20-point games are gravy and should be taken as such. His role on offense is to be guarded, not to score. People acting like Green taking three or fewer shots a game is some failure on his part are clueless. Him not getting those shots meant that whoever took them had a much easier time of it. For Christ's sake, the Thunder used Roberson on him as much as they used him on Kawhi. How many role-players draw the best defender on the other team? Ray Allen?
Green is not vastly overrated. That you're bitching about his consistency shows how much it affects the team. If a guy is so critical that he is swinging games in your mind despite being the fifth option on offense, he seems to warrant pretty high regard.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
He shot over 50% from 3 in the playoffs:lol
http://oi65.tinypic.com/dmb1b4.jpg
Some of you guys need to understand the difference between role players and stars..you won't find role players that consistently show up on offense, that's part of the reason they are just role players..
I didn't even have to respond because you did it for me, so the two posters who posted truth nukes after that do your research before you speak or hate on the guy.
Yep, but that is only 2 or three good games remember.
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Originally Posted by
Mikeanaro
Best offseason post so far.
If you look at his 3 pt % it is not true though, at least not all of it. There is a median ground here and both sides have arguments. Danny has shot well in the playoffs for the 5 years he has been here, a very high % from three.
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Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Originally Posted by
HarlemHeat37
the Warriors were 1 game away from the title, and their starting "perimeter role player" had one of the worst playoff runs I've ever seen from a starter..
And that role player is on the verge of a max contract.