Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Well, after thinking about it for a bit now that the season is over, I'm not as mad as I was with Danny during the season. He didn't have a great year overall, but he's not supposed to carry the Spurs. The NBA is a superstar's league and you need Superstars to step and be great in order to win - I kind of lost sight of that due to the 2014 season.
Danny didn't fail the Spurs at all. He's a role player and did what he could (even stepping up a bit and playing better in the playoffs than he did during the regular season). It's not up to him to carry the Spurs to playoff wins. It was up to Kawhi and LMA to step up and do the heavy lifting, but unfortunately, they both got outplayed by Westbrook and Durant, and that pretty much cost them the series.. It's much more on them that it is on Danny Green. Both could have stepped up with the game on the line in game 4 and 5, but neither did.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Ice009
Well, after thinking about it for a bit now that the season is over, I'm not as mad as I was with Danny during the season. He didn't have a great year overall, but he's not supposed to carry the Spurs. The NBA is a superstar's league and you need Superstars to step and be great in order to win - I kind of lost sight of that due to the 2014 season.
Danny didn't fail the Spurs at all. He's a role player and did what he could (even stepping up a bit and playing better in the playoffs than he did during the regular season). It's not up to him to carry the Spurs to playoff wins. It was up to Kawhi and LMA to step up and do the heavy lifting, but unfortunately, they both got outplayed by Westbrook and Durant, and that pretty much cost them the series.. It's much more on them that it is on Danny Green. Both could have stepped up with the game on the line in game 4 and 5, but neither did.
So barnes and livinston stepped up for GS and they are role players, nobody espects role players to save every game but they have to be around the game, especially our supposed best bench of the nba.
How can you put lamarcus and kiwi to the same level than scrubby green, those 2 cant make everything this is the west.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Mikeanaro
So barnes and livinston stepped up for GS and they are role players, nobody espects role players to save every game but they have to be around the game, especially our supposed best bench of the nba.
How can you put lamarcus and kiwi to the same level than scrubby green, those 2 cant make everything this is the west.
Answer this question - Did LMA and Kawhi get outplayed by Westbrook and Durant?
If both of your superstars get outplayed by the other team's superstars throughout a series, you're not likely to win that series. It doesn't matter how good your role players play, as they can't save you all the time. Role players aren't capable of doing it consistently - that's why they are role players, so if your superstars are getting outplayed, you're not likely to win.
I'd only blame the role players if Kawhi and LMA both outplayed Westbrook and Durant and still lost the series, then I would start looking at the role players for blame.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Ice009
Answer this question - Did LMA and Kawhi get outplayed by Westbrook and Durant?
If both of your superstars get outplayed by the other team's superstars throughout a series, you're not likely to win that series. It doesn't matter how good your role players play, as they can't save you all the time. Role players aren't capable of doing it consistently - that's why they are role players, so if your superstars are getting outplayed, you're not likely to win.
I'd only blame the role players if Kawhi and LMA both outplayed Westbrook and Durant and still lost the series, then I would start looking at the role players for blame.
Kawhi and LMA are still not on the level of the Westbrook/KD as a 1-2 punch. The Spurs advantage was supposed to be our deep bench.
Also didn't help that Duncan's last wheel fell off during the series. He had the worst playoff series of his career.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
Thing is, either he's incredibly overrated by his supporters or he's criminally underrated by his haters. Yes, he can't dribble or make layups but Danny is a role player and for the most part, he's played his role extremely well. At his best, he's one of the best shooters AND defenders in the league. He had a bit of trouble adjusting to the new offense last season but he stepped up in the playoffs. His shooting will probably be better next season having more chemistry with the LMA/Kawhi-centric offense.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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midnightpulp
Kawhi and LMA are still not on the level of the Westbrook/KD as a 1-2 punch. The Spurs advantage was supposed to be our deep bench.
Also didn't help that Duncan's last wheel fell off during the series. He had the worst playoff series of his career.
It was supposed to be, but the bench never came through, and I think that is why you can't reply on winning by committee like the Spurs tried to do last season. You need your superstars to step up and be consistent. Hoping role players step up all the time isn't likely to win you many Championships. 2014 was amazing, but I'm not sure how repeatable that is.
I honestly feel that TD was injured and never regained his form. I don't know if he finished the season off with the knee injury still lingering, but I don't think it was due to decline. If that knee is alright now and can be rehabbed, I really do hope that he comes back this upcoming season. I don't think his play in the playoffs had anything to do with him declining like some people here have said.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Ice009
Answer this question - Did LMA and Kawhi get outplayed by Westbrook and Durant?
If both of your superstars get outplayed by the other team's superstars throughout a series, you're not likely to win that series. It doesn't matter how good your role players play, as they can't save you all the time. Role players aren't capable of doing it consistently - that's why they are role players, so if your superstars are getting outplayed, you're not likely to win.
I'd only blame the role players if Kawhi and LMA both outplayed Westbrook and Durant and still lost the series, then I would start looking at the role players for blame.
Outplayed? with Durant shooting 8/21 and Westrook 5/18?
Every time Durant had a good game Westbrook shot bricks and vice versa, still they won those games.
This wasnt about superstars, it was about a team, guys like Roberson stepping up and Steven Adams getting rebounds and scoring, Waiters scoring 17 points.
Great now its on the superstars, LMA scored 41 points and DG was 3/11, Duncan 1/8, Parker 3/9, Mills 2/9, West 3/8 but no LMA and Kiwi must carry the team.
What are you 5?
And so far if my memory doesnt fail WE GOT REFJOBBED TWICE AT HOME so this series is a very bad example about winning or even losing.
Re: Danny Green is VASTLY OVERRATED
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Thing is, either he's incredibly overrated by his supporters or he's criminally underrated by his haters. Yes, he can't dribble or make layups but Danny is a role player and for the most part, he's played his role extremely well. At his best, he's one of the best shooters AND defenders in the league. He had a bit of trouble adjusting to the new offense last season but he stepped up in the playoffs. His shooting will probably be better next season having more chemistry with the LMA/Kawhi-centric offense.
He is not one of the best shooters of the league, every GSW player has better shots than DG, he stepped up in the playoffs? 2 good games and 8 horrible is stepping up?
Uncontested shots have nothing to do with chemistry or new offense.
