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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
Although the OP was just trying to troll and we got the usual nut hugging from applesauce and datard, there's an important point here to be made. I expect Tony would be fine coming off the bench.
As a backup playing 15-20 minutes, Tony could do some nice damage against bench units. It would make him more effective in the playoffs, where he adds value with his experience and cool-headedness.
Also, for those of us who actually know something of the team dynamic, Tony is one of the more vocal leaders and has been for years. He is a little like D. Fish in that regard. The young players look up to him, moreso than Manu. His presence as a veteran off the bench would be very beneficial to young starters.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
TrainOfThought5
Compared to his production, Parker has sacrificed the least of the big 3. So fucking shove that piece of bullshit back in the asshole it came from.
Unrelated, i have no problem with Parker coming off the bench, competing for a backup spot, on a near min contract.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
siraulo23
Translated from French:
"I feel like I can sit on my fat ass and collect food stamps from
the NBA for a long time."
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
tmtcsc
Lol, Manutard? GMAFB. You are one bitter mother-fucker. Manu realizes his limitations and made the right adjustments to his game. He also understands his bench role. TP still thinks he is a quality starting PG and can rely on his speed to get to the basket for layups. Instead of debating whether he can be a relevant player for the duration of his contract, he's making bold statements of playing beyond it.
You've been a Manu hater ever since the 1st Finals loss to the Heat. I was critical of him then too (and rightfully so) but he made amends for it and played well the following year.
Blah, blah, blah.
What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?
"No, I am on a steady decline and plan to sign in Europe after the current contract expires. All the ungrateful, crybaby, bitches on Spurstalk have shown me the light and I suck. "
"I don't want do like Manu and Timmy, who were both past their prime after 2011 while I carried the offense until Kawhi showed up, and age gracefully while playing a reduced role. No, I've always been the black sheep of the "Big Three" so I just go back home to France and finish there to make all the whiners happy."
Is that more like it?
He can still produce (far less consistently) and is making strides to alter his style, but finding a suitable replacement won't be easy or cheap. Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
J_Paco
Blah, blah, blah.
What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?
"No, I am on a steady decline and plan to sign in Europe after the current contract expires. All the ungrateful, crybaby, bitches on Spurstalk have shown me the light and I suck. "
"I don't want do like Manu and Timmy, who were both past their prime after 2011 while I carried the offense until Kawhi showed up, and age gracefully while playing a reduced role. No, I've always been the black sheep of the "Big Three" so I just go back home to France and finish there to make all the whiners happy."
Is that more like?
He can still produce (far less consistently) and is making strides to alter his style, but finding a suitable replacement won't be easy or cheap. Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.
Don't waste your time with that Manutard, bro.
He just suggested on another thread that he'd give Manu a 2yr/16M extension :lmao
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
Well maybe if he decided to cut his salary in half and accept a bench role...I still wouldn't want him on the team that long tbh.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
TrainOfThought5
Compared to his production, Parker has sacrificed the least of the big 3. So fucking shove that piece of bullshit back in the asshole it came from.
Unrelated, i have no problem with Parker coming off the bench, competing for a backup spot, on a near min contract.
What stupid shit are you spouting?
Parker has never made anywhere near his max slot, while far less successful PG's (recent examples like Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight, Reggie Jackson) have all been paid around his past and current salary. His current extension was in poor choice, but how did the front office know he'd have a sharp decline after having two of his best seasons back - to - back.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
J_Paco
Blah, blah, blah.
What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?
"I've been fortunate to play this long and I'll take it one year at a time." The other stuff is filled with delusions of grandeur. He is an average starting quality PG now.
And Yacht, fuck your "Manutard" bullshit. I don't fall in to any "Player over Team" camp like you do. You hate on Manu and Kawhi even though both of them have proven to be better than your French soul mate.
Manu adjusted his role and based upon the ridiculous amounts of money being thrown around, I imagine 8 Mill per is what the Spurs will pay him. Maybe I'm wrong and both sides will agree to less. I'd prefer that happen so they have enough money to spend elsewhere to better the team.
Hell, I don't think Pau is worth 18 Mill a season either. i was hoping he would come here for 10 but the market is saying that's not realistic anymore. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought he would be a great FA acquisition.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
He can, but as a backup pg...
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
Now it makes sense that Murray is delaying signing his contract, tbh...
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
cd98
Just bc he says he wants to play until he's 40 doesn't mean a) that he thinks Spurs will pay him like an all star at 37; b) that he won't change his mind at say 37; c) that the Spurs will keep him on the team until 40; d) that he will expect to play 30 minutes a game deep into his late 30s.
I've never fully understood the hate for a guy that is the best Spur point guard in history by a landslide. Or how you have to choose between Manu, Kawhi, or Parker. At this point in their careers, Parker is more important bc he's a starting point guard in this league and Manu is close to retirement, but they both can still have important roles in the Spurs being title contenders.
let's see
gets raped by kidd in the 2003 finals after a good first 3 games and does damn near nothing in the last 3
gets raped by billups in the 2005 finals
plays against the worst backcourt in the history of the nba finals agaisnt the worst team to ever make the finals in 2007 and people that don't watch the spurs(and the parker fans of the spurs) claim he's some great player from destroying scrubs.
offensively had a great first round in 2009, but couldn't stay in front of Barea off the dribble if his life depended on it, but that series isnt' his fault. They outplayed us as a whole.
2013 finals games 6 and 7(no explanation needed). Danny green is having the best performance of his life, then Parker sabatages that to get more shots and that Miami stopped double teaming him. He gets 23 shots and hits 6 of them. then goes 3-12 in game 7.
2014 wcf when westbrooke was killing him. Popovich had to basically sit him down to get a win in game 6.
2015 nba finals. Had a good finals. After game 2 popovich says, "u know, let's make Lebron work on defense. Let's use this young SF we got". From games 3-5 it was leonard's show. Game 5, we're up 20 and parker is 1-11. Can't hit shit. So then he goes in hero mode trying to win the mvp award with the title won already:lol
2015 first round with green playing like shit and Leonard having a good series thru 3 games, Parker wants to show he has a lot left. Game 7 was fucking disgusting. At points in the game, he wouldn't even pass to Green or Leonard.
this year in the playoffs.. well, nevermind..
And you wonder why this mf gets the hate he receives? I had enough of this guy before we even traded for leonard. I wasn't on the site then. I was posting on other forums. It's documented. He's a product of Tim and Manu. Had he been drafted anywhere else, he probably would have been tony delk.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
Calm down with the "rape" usage. And stop rewriting history. Parker is HOF material
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
skulls138
Calm down with the "rape" usage. And stop rewriting history. Parker is HOF material
of course he's going to the hall of fame. 4 titles, 1 finals mvp, has a pretty good fiba record. Only a fool would argue he's not. And I'll say whatever words I feel like rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
J_Paco
Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.
Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.
He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.
So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...
This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
YGWHI
Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.
He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.
So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...
This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.
especially when the pg position is the DEEPEST in the league. The pg position is what the center position was in 80s and 90s. Teams can no longer get away with bullshit ass pgs in 2016 and beyond. Especially pgs that can't defend. They're gonna get eaten alive. If you can't defend, at least offer something on offense whether it's consistence offense or consistently setting up teammates.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
SASdynasty!
Actually Kawhi should try to lead the Spurs in scoring once in a playoff series beyond the first round. Once he does that, maybe he can start demanding trades.
Kawhi averaged +20 ppg for two consecutive playoffs and led the league in Def Rtg among perimeter players...No PG, SG or SF in NBA history has posted a defensive rating lower than Kawhi's
Once Parker does it, proving he's a valuable point guard on both ends, maybe he can make statements like "I want to be a Spur for 6 years more"
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
ElNono
Now it makes sense that Murray is delaying signing his contract, tbh...
Actually the real reason behind the delay for Murray is the Durant's signing.
If Durant signs with the Spurs, then Spurs will subsequently signs Murray.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
gilmor
Actually the real reason behind the delay for Murray is the Durant's signing.
If Durant signs with the Spurs, then Spurs will subsequently signs Murray.
sure
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
The anti-Kawhi/parker only fans are just getting sad these days. :lol
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
SupremeGuy
The anti-Kawhi/parker only fans are just getting sad these days. :lol
Not as sad as wearing a hoodie indoors to cover up a pot belly and titties :lol
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
james evans
especially when the pg position is the DEEPEST in the league. The pg position is what the center position was in 80s and 90s. Teams can no longer get away with bullshit ass pgs in 2016 and beyond. Especially pgs that can't defend. They're gonna get eaten alive. If you can't defend, at least offer something on offense whether it's consistence offense or consistently setting up teammates.
You know, it's really not that deep. Curry, Westbrook, Lillard. Cp3 is old. I would say that the western playoff teams have really good pg, but the league as a whole doesn't have an especially talented field of pg.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
Clipper Nation
My condolences, Spurfan. Porker has taken the next few years out of the case in advance.
Interesting take, especially considering we haven't won a championship in a decade when Parker wasn't our leading scorer in the Finals.
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Re: Tony Parker: "I feel like I can still play for a long time"
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Originally Posted by
YGWHI
Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.
He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.
So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...
This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.
If he keeps shooting better than 48% (like he has for the last 12 seasons) and if his shot and 3 pointer keep improving (43% and 42% from 3 the last 2 seasons), I'll take it, especially considering he still can get his own shot better than anyone on the team and also draw in the defense better than anyone.
