Garcia: Manu Ginobili has announced he's coming back to the NBA

http://manuginobili.com/

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Última semana en Bahía Blanca antes de la concentración en Buenos Aires con la selección. Aumento simultáneo en la intensidad de los entrenamientos y de las despedidas de familiares y amigos. Dura combinación para este cuerpito, pero beneficial para la cabeza.
1 – Actualización deportiva:

La noticia más relevante para contarles es que ya estoy decidido a seguir jugando en la NBA. No tenía muchas dudas, pero como hago últimamente, quería dejar pasar un poco el tiempo y ver la temporada que pasó desde un poco más lejos. La realidad es que este año me siento más seguro y lo tengo aún más claro que el año anterior. La pasé muy bien durante la temporada y salvo el “pequeño” incidente de febrero estuve saludable en todo momento. Definitivamente quiero seguir disfrutando del básquet un poco más. Ampliaré en mi habitual columna en La Nación muy pronto. Dado que este no es un blog de básquet, seguiré en ese espacio contando más detalles.
Más allá de eso, como decía anteriormente, esta semana me entrené con bastante mayor intensidad tanto en gimnasio como en cancha. Sufrieron las piernas y pulmones pero era inevitable. Ahora es el momento de comenzar con los entrenamientos de equipo. El lunes me costará mucho, pero ya no veo la hora y tengo ganas de ver a todos los chicos.

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He can still do some things in a limited role, like last season. Welcome back, Manu.

I would had put "for another season" in the title but I ran out of space :lol

WB Nariz !

Why wouldn't he with all this sick money being handed out....

:bobo

One more year it is then.

Might as well bring back West, Bonner, and Timmy too.

Retire. You're holding the bench back

Will be interesting to see what type of contract he gets. Wonder if he's going to take another paycut or try taking advantage of the rising cap like everyone else.

As I said a little while back, I'd love to have Manu return. I just don't want PATFO to call it a day and continue to rely on him being the 6th man. We really need someone else to come off the bench and be able to create some offense for others. Maybe they're hoping KA will be able to do that.

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Impressed. Last summer he wasn't sure he'd make it one more year.

Sweet! He had a pretty solid year, and seems like he's really training and working out hard this summer

I'm not trying to be funny, but I hope he escapes the NT play unharmed.

Awesome. He still outplays Parker even coming off the bench.

Although it doesn't say anything about returning to the Spurs :stirpot:

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Originally Posted by DPG21920

I'm not trying to be funny, but I hope he escapes the NT play unharmed.

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That was my second thought after seeing this thread.

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

Sweet! He had a pretty solid year, and seems like he's really training and working out hard this summer

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Of course he looks good in the summer.

Spare me the suspense....Is he resigning with us? There's big money out there and i have been told Manu deeply resents the money paid to a fat underperforming teammate so i'd expect him to leave to a higher paying position. I think hes worth $18m a year tbqh (intangibles mainly). Is it the Lakers? Maybe Dallas. Lots of teams need a big name two guard. Lots of money for names in this market.

Yes!!!

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Originally Posted by K...

Spare me the suspense....Is he resigning with us? There's big money out there and i have been told Manu deeply resents the money paid to a fat underperforming teammate so i'd expect him to leave to a higher paying position. I think hes worth $18m a year tbqh (intangibles mainly). Is it the Lakers? Maybe Dallas. Lots of teams need a big name two guard. Lots of money for names in this market.

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He's going to Boston. Says he likes cold weather.

Welcome back Manu:toast

Manu Ginobili 2015 playoff stats:
8.0ppg 3.4rpg, 4.6apg, 2.0TO, 34.9FG%

Manu Ginobili 2016 playoff stats:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 0.7TO, 42.6FG%

If another guard put up those horrendous numbers, 90% of the board would be calling for his head :lol

MG has more basketball vision IQ than 99 % of the players in the league. If not for the knee to the groin, he would have played 70 + games last year. Welcome back....
one more run 4 the big 3. Another 50+ win season too.

Manu is staying with spurs, common now. Not even a question. Somebody mentioned Kyle as an option to produce off the bench? Lol, I'll have what you are drinking my friend:bobo

Not good, tbh. This team needs to get younger or we're looking at another sonning by Okalhoma and Warriors :bang

Awesome news! Simmons and Anderson showed some promise in that bench facilitation role, but it's still Manu's unit. Glad they'll get one more year of tutelage under the best sixth man in the history of the NBA.

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Originally Posted by SuperCam

Not good, tbh. This team needs to get younger or we're looking at another sonning by Okalhoma and Warriors :bang

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Didn't say he was coming back to the Spurs. There's still hope!

Maybe some other team will pay him for his worth.... A 10 day contract

Anyone upset about this should be institutionalized, or is clueless about basketball. Great news

I'm assuming that he's coming back for near the min at this point in his career. The Spurs need that to retain flexibility in signing a quality free agent and filling out the roster.

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Originally Posted by SuperCam

Not good, tbh. This team needs to get younger or we're looking at another sonning by Okalhoma and Warriors :bang

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Have you seen how expensive the free agent market has been? The team needs cheap production wherever possible.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Have you seen how expensive the free agent market has been? The team needs cheap production wherever possible.

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Spurs just drafted a young turnover machine that can't shoot, why bring back a 40yr old who does the same thing?

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

Awesome news! Simmons and Anderson showed some promise in that bench facilitation role, but it's still Manu's unit. Glad they'll get one more year of tutelage under the best sixth man in the history of the NBA.

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Ummmm, Anderson showed that he belongs in the rgv vipers at best you mean

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Originally Posted by Mr. Body

Have you seen how expensive the free agent market has been? The team needs cheap production wherever possible.

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At this point any broken down stiffs on the roster just encourages Poop to ride the old hands in the playoffs too long


:pop: how many championships have you won?

Glad to hear it. He is our best play maker and makes the game easier for those around him. Out of all of the elder Big 3, he played the best last year. TP started out ok and then faded.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

Glad to hear it. He is our best play maker and makes the game easier for those around him. Out of all of the elder Big 3, he played the best last year. TP started out ok and then faded.

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He played the worst, actually.

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

Glad to hear it. He is our best play maker and makes the game easier for those around him. Out of all of the elder Big 3, he played the best last year. TP started out ok and then faded.

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:lol they all faded. That's the problem.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Spurs just drafted a young turnover machine that can't shoot, why bring back a 40yr old who does the same thing?

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I don't know. It doesn't seem to make any sense. Then again, why do you rehash the same post over and over?

I'm glad to get Manu back, though I'm in the minority here it seems like. One more year to celebrate one of the greatest competitors, passers, and Spurs the NBA has seen.

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Originally Posted by UZER

:lol they all faded. That's the problem.

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Unfortunately, Tim hit a damn wall. I wouldn't call that a fade. Tony had some good moments and showed his issues weren't conditioning, he just lost his speed. I thought Manu played pretty well and more under control than he had in the past. Case in point - he passed the ball to Patty instead of trying to shoot the ball over or against Adams in Game 2 of the Semi-finals on the final play. I was a little pissed at the time that he wasn't more aggressive but if he would have had his shot blocked or ripped out of the air - I would have been even more pissed. He's more aware of his body and limitations now.

Is it just coincidence that, right before KD' s decision, Manu returns and Tp proclaims that he wants to be around for many more years?

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Originally Posted by SPURt

I'm glad to get Manu back, though I'm in the minority here it seems like. One more year to celebrate one of the greatest competitors, passers, and Spurs the NBA has seen.

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Shot 1-6 and fouled out in 23 minutes during an elimination game. What a competitor

Good news. We need somebody to speak to Pau in Spanish in the locker room.

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Originally Posted by beirmeistr

Is it just coincidence that, right before KD' s decision, Manu returns and Tp proclaims that he wants to be around for many more years?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by cjw

Anyone upset about this should be institutionalized, or is clueless about basketball. Great news

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Stay. You're holding the bench up

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FIFY

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Originally Posted by beirmeistr

Is it just coincidence that, right before KD' s decision, Manu returns and Tp proclaims that he wants to be around for many more years?

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Maybe but Parker was under contract for two more seasons anyway and I assume that Kawhi and LMA along with Pop are the biggest draws.

smh ElNono getting payyyyed again

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Originally Posted by SPURt

I'm glad to get Manu back, though I'm in the minority here it seems like. One more year to celebrate one of the greatest competitors, passers, and Spurs the NBA has seen.

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No there are just few idiots who are addicted to relentless trolling saying the same things over and over. On any board with any moderation that would have been reined in and everyone would be much more happy.

The fact is that you can't get better than Manu for less money and those very same trolls who claim that he sucks or whatever use idiocy to back up their claims.

All stats with any credibility has him as a very good player still and if you can't see that he does winning things out there in the court, then try and look harder.

This needs to be Manu's Robert Horry season. Don't play until February and then limited minutes until the playoffs. He was playing really well early in the season but it was obvious he got worn down by the end. If he's fresh and injury-free, he can be a solid contributor.

He's a leader and occasionally comes up big. But he is cheap. Why not? Most D-Leaguers are going to come in and stink. You won't get a quality free agent for the price Manu will accept this year. If Manu was trying to get a big payday, the Spurs would push him to retire. And Manu, unlike most Spurs, can literally do anything basketball-related he wants...from commentating to GM to even coaching, he'll be in demand.

Still the best PG on the team. His passing/vision/playmaking can always be used off the bench. Plus he's unselfish unlike a certain fat prick on the team tbh.

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Originally Posted by cd021

Maybe but Parker was under contract for two more seasons anyway and I assume that Kawhi and LMA along with Pop are the biggest draws.

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Good observation. Not sure how to read it though. Either as "don't forget about us front office" or "come join us"

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Originally Posted by Uriel

Good news. We need somebody to speak to Pau in Spanish in the locker room.

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Gasol's gone to GSW

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Originally Posted by FkLA

Still the best PG on the team. His passing/vision/playmaking can always be used off the bench. Plus he's unselfish unlike a certain fat prick on the team tbh.

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Great post.

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Originally Posted by Mouth is Bleeding

No there are just few idiots who are addicted to relentless trolling saying the same things over and over. On any board with any moderation that would have been reined in and everyone would be much more happy.

The fact is that you can't get better than Manu for less money and those very same trolls who claim that he sucks or whatever use idiocy to back up their claims.

All stats with any credibility has him as a very good player still and if you can't see that he does winning things out there in the court, then try and look harder.

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Well said... Due to the lack of moderation, I just keep growing my ignore list :) it helps weed out the garbage trolls

God, I hope Tim comes back as well. I don't even care about winning a championship anytime soon. :lol

I can't imagine he gets paid much. For what we have to spend it's going to be hard to beat the value.

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Originally Posted by SPURt

I'm glad to get Manu back, though I'm in the minority here it seems like. One more year to celebrate one of the greatest competitors, passers, and Spurs the NBA has seen.

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I'm in total agreement with you.

This is big news in terms of how the roster will be constructed. I would have expected more bench upheaval if Manu hadn't come back.

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Shot 1-6 and fouled out in 23 minutes during an elimination game. What a competitor

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The Spurs have some bigger issues if an off game from a 38 yr old legend is the difference between winning and losing.

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Originally Posted by SpursFan86

Will be interesting to see what type of contract he gets. Wonder if he's going to take another paycut or try taking advantage of the rising cap like everyone else.

As I said a little while back, I'd love to have Manu return. I just don't want PATFO to call it a day and continue to rely on him being the 6th man. We really need someone else to come off the bench and be able to create some offense for others. Maybe they're hoping KA will be able to do that.

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I'm sure if you have someone in mind to do that they'd be all ears to as who to trade for or sign with their limited money.

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Originally Posted by Splits

smh ElNono getting payyyyed again

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:greedy:greedy:greedy

Spurs will miss out on Durant and Gasol, will just throw the cash at Manu and David West, lol..

It's a 50/50 split how I feel about this.. Nostalgia tells me this is nice and warm and cozy and familiar and that's great but Pop will over depend on Manu and he will be the first off the bench meanwhile these guys who we hope to be "the future" will still continue to get limited roles and will suffer. Then we can expect the same come playoff time, guys not getting minutes because they don't have "experience"

I'm hoping Manu comes back and makes it clear its to mentor others and not be the 6th man option off the bench. Youth movement needs to be in full effect.

He'll be fine as long as we retool the bench, tbh. He can't be the primary option anymore off the bench though, tbh, even though he posted a better PER than our much younger starting PG for two seasons in a row, including playoffs...

We're trying to do a solid to the team though, and wait until everybody is signed up to see what kinda of money is left...

Who was a better 6th man in the league last season?

Only Iggy was definitely better.

Jamal Crawford is not a good NBA player and contributes more to losing than winning.

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Originally Posted by SPURt

I'm glad to get Manu back, though I'm in the minority here it seems like. One more year to celebrate one of the greatest competitors, passers, and Spurs the NBA has seen.

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You're really not in the minority, tbh... trolling is the name of the game in this place though...

Plus if there's room for that ginger POS Bonner, then better be fucking room for Tim and Manu... heck I would bring back the Admiral too...

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Originally Posted by ElNono

We're trying to do a solid to the team though, and wait until everybody is signed up to see what kinda of money is left...

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:lol

Best cost value pick ever.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Plus if there's room for that ginger POS Bonner, then better be fucking room for Tim and Manu... heck I would bring back the Admiral too...

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Hell yeah, bring Tim back. One final year for the big 3!!!

I do hope that he'll have some big to play pick and roll with.

That and some more shooting, better spacing is a must. Then we'd have the best bench in the league once again. It's amazing that we almost did when first West and then much much worse Kyle started clogging up things horribly almost single-handedly ruining things.

It can't be stressed enough, that before Kyle getting more minutes this Manu-led bench was the best in the league, time and time again outperforming our starters on a team winning more games than any Spurs team ever. How is bringing the leader responsible for record-setting actual winning in any way bad? And he is cheap! It's so easily value and the best thing to do.

Kyle better be working on shooting as we speak though.

Great news.

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Plus if there's room for that ginger POS Bonner, then better be fucking room for Tim and Manu... heck I would bring back the Admiral too...

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This. 100%

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Manu Ginobili 2015 playoff stats:
8.0ppg 3.4rpg, 4.6apg, 2.0TO, 34.9FG%

Manu Ginobili 2016 playoff stats:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 0.7TO, 42.6FG%

If another guard put up those horrendous numbers, 90% of the board would be calling for his head :lol

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100 minutes or more in the playoffs PER looked like this

1. KL
2. LMA
3. Manu
4. Danny
5. Patty
6. West
7. Parker
8. Diaw
9. Tim
10. Kyle

WHAT BENCH?

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Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht

Manu Ginobili 2015 playoff stats:
8.0ppg 3.4rpg, 4.6apg, 2.0TO, 34.9FG%

Manu Ginobili 2016 playoff stats:
6.7ppg, 2.7rpg, 2.5apg, 0.7TO, 42.6FG%

If another guard put up those horrendous numbers, 90% of the board would be calling for his head :lol

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i could care less what his numbers are much like your takes

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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard

Spurs will miss out on Durant and Gasol, will just throw the cash at Manu and David West, lol..

It's a 50/50 split how I feel about this.. Nostalgia tells me this is nice and warm and cozy and familiar and that's great but Pop will over depend on Manu and he will be the first off the bench meanwhile these guys who we hope to be "the future" will still continue to get limited roles and will suffer. Then we can expect the same come playoff time, guys not getting minutes because they don't have "experience"

I'm hoping Manu comes back and makes it clear its to mentor others and not be the 6th man option off the bench. Youth movement needs to be in full effect.

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I think Manu has been trying to expedite the development of the younger players for the last three years. He's definitely not been a chucker for the last few years (and never really was in his career).

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Originally Posted by BSfromTX

i could care less what his numbers are

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Neither do the other Manutards

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Originally Posted by BSfromTX

i could care less what his numbers are much like your takes

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Technically the saying is "I could not care less." Saying it the way you did implies that you care at least to some degree.

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Originally Posted by cd98

I think Manu has been trying to expedite the development of the younger players for the last three years. He's definitely not been a chucker for the last few years (and never really was in his career).

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I'm not blaming Manu, he knows only one way to play and he's adjusted a little based on limitations but when he's out there he is usually running the show.. It's on Pop to make sure that the players we have are developing even if that means growing pains.. Some of those bench guys need to be facilitators too or at least get used to the idea gradually and work themselves into that kind of player.

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Originally Posted by AFBlue

Technically the saying is "I could not care less." Saying it the way you did implies that you care at least to some degree.

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language barrier

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Originally Posted by tholdren

language barrier

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It's actually a common mistake for many English-speaking people as well.

Great news!

Nice, glad to see Manu back for another year!

A scrub backup PG like Bayless gets 9m/year and some fellows are complaining that we're getting Manu back for 3m :lol

I wonder who they want running the 2nd unit for the Spurs, especially considering the options on the roster and the fact that SA has no money to sign a guy in the FA.

Well this seals my League Pass for this season! #graciasmanu

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

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:cry just 3M

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Originally Posted by cd98

I think Manu has been trying to expedite the development of the younger players for the last three years. He's definitely not been a chucker for the last few years (and never really was in his career).

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Sides that ill advised off balanced step back three from time to time I fully agree with you there. Manu is not going to hurt the team usually. He can also mentor the younger guys we brought in, namely the 19 year old kid.

Thank goodness. Now Tim is next to come back.
#1MoreYear!

I wonder if there is some team with a ton of cap space that would offer Manu a short term contract with a high per year number that would steal him from the Spurs. Yeah, yeah, I know Manu wouldn't do that. That's what we all say. But if we're offering 3 mil or so and some team who has some young guys who need a mentor or someone to institute proper culture, etc or some club just spiteful with money (like Dallas) offers Manu like 9 million for a one year contract, one wonders if it would be too good for Gino to hold back. He might not want to leave but as this is likely his last contract...

Not saying it will happen just a hypothetical.

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I wonder if there is some team with a ton of cap space that would offer Manu a short term contract with a high per year number that would steal him from the Spurs. Yeah, yeah, I know Manu wouldn't do that. That's what we all say. But if we're offering 3 mil or so and some team who has some young guys who need a mentor or someone to institute proper culture, etc or some club just spiteful with money (like Dallas) offers Manu like 9 million for a one year contract, one wonders if it would be too good for Gino to hold back. He might not want to leave but as this is likely his last contract...

Not saying it will happen just a hypothetical.

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I wouldn't be mad at him if he left for money :)

Wonder if the Spurs strike out on the free agency, they'll just give Manu a $5 million contract just as a sending off present.

is he still playing in the paralympics?

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Originally Posted by ElNono

Plus if there's room for that ginger POS Bonner, then better be fucking room for Tim and Manu... heck I would bring back the Admiral too...

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Originally Posted by tmtcsc

Glad to hear it. He is our best play maker and makes the game easier for those around him. Out of all of the elder Big 3, he played the best last year. TP started out ok and then faded.

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This just isn't true. The bench sucked last year. The starters were the best starting unit in the NBA. As much as TP was only ok, he could still get to the rim now and then and had some nice throwbacks. Manu for the most part can't get to the rim at all. It makes his passing less effective and more predictable. He also started settling for midrange jumpers too much. They are ugly as shite and even worse than TP's.

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Originally Posted by SPURt

The Spurs have some bigger issues if an off game from a 38 yr old legend is the difference between winning and losing.

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They have had this issue the past two seasons: needing Manu to make a difference in the playoffs and him not being able to. It is not on Manu at this point, but two things:
1. Younger players have to step up their games.
2. They need a chance to do that by Pop playing them.

Point 2 is the one that worries me. It's all too easy for Pop to continue to rely on Manu and not develop young players.

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Close thread.

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Originally Posted by TheGoldStandard

Spurs will miss out on Durant and Gasol, will just throw the cash at Manu and David West, lol..

It's a 50/50 split how I feel about this.. Nostalgia tells me this is nice and warm and cozy and familiar and that's great but Pop will over depend on Manu and he will be the first off the bench meanwhile these guys who we hope to be "the future" will still continue to get limited roles and will suffer. Then we can expect the same come playoff time, guys not getting minutes because they don't have "experience"

I'm hoping Manu comes back and makes it clear its to mentor others and not be the 6th man option off the bench. Youth movement needs to be in full effect.

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The bolded part is exactly what will happen. The part in italics is what I am hoping will happen.

great news to keep the hispanic fans coming to the games