Garcia: Manu Ginobili has announced he's coming back to the NBA

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Originally Posted by Pocho La Pantera

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PER is a garbage stat. The bench sucked last year. Manu was its leader. Period full stop. He can't drive anymore and his midrange game is terrible.

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Lol manu wants to get paid. He's no Timmy.

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

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Would be hilarious. Everyone is welcoming him back (myself included) and he bolts to another team.

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Originally Posted by NASpurs

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Nono wants to get paid...

One of the things the Spurs probably most liked about D. Murray is his relentless (and sometimes reckless) offensive aggression... it's makes sense to bring back Manu for a year to help mentor a 19 yr old who fits that mold.

Spurs will have to find a way to pay him 30/2 player option for season 2

Makes you appreciate Tim even more. Tim is the goat. Manu wants to get re-paid :lol

Manu's going to GSW :lol

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I wonder if there is some team with a ton of cap space that would offer Manu a short term contract with a high per year number that would steal him from the Spurs. Yeah, yeah, I know Manu wouldn't do that. That's what we all say. But if we're offering 3 mil or so and some team who has some young guys who need a mentor or someone to institute proper culture, etc or some club just spiteful with money (like Dallas) offers Manu like 9 million for a one year contract, one wonders if it would be too good for Gino to hold back. He might not want to leave but as this is likely his last contract...

Not saying it will happen just a hypothetical.

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If we strike out on Durant, Manu will get paid after Pop has the agreement with Boban, and the rookies. I do believe he opted out of his contract to get paid more if we can afford it.
I mean if we are bringing the merry band back + rookies we might as well pay Manu.

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Originally Posted by SAGirl

They have had this issue the past two seasons: needing Manu to make a difference in the playoffs and him not being able to. It is not on Manu at this point, but two things:
1. Younger players have to step up their games.
2. They need a chance to do that by Pop playing them.

Point 2 is the one that worries me. It's all too easy for Pop to continue to rely on Manu and not develop young players.

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Couldn't agree more. Next season it is imperative that the Spurs find out what they have in Kyle, Simmons even Boban and possibly a eurostash or two.

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Originally Posted by Tully365

One of the things the Spurs probably most liked about D. Murray is his relentless (and sometimes reckless) offensive aggression... it's makes sense to bring back Manu for a year to help mentor a 19 yr old who fits that mold.

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Two things they have mentioned:
1. he's an athletic young guard and we need that
2. he has size and length to play two positions, he will be versatile
Everything else is a project but he's 19. He is still young enough to improve a whole lot in the coming seasons, so long as people understand he's not ready to come in and light it up right off the start.

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Originally Posted by Juan

Makes you appreciate Tim even more. Tim is the goat. Manu wants to get re-paid :lol

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Thats not funny, just like is not funny that Barea NBA star thing...

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Originally Posted by BillMc

I wonder if there is some team with a ton of cap space that would offer Manu a short term contract with a high per year number that would steal him from the Spurs. Yeah, yeah, I know Manu wouldn't do that. That's what we all say. But if we're offering 3 mil or so and some team who has some young guys who need a mentor or someone to institute proper culture, etc or some club just spiteful with money (like Dallas) offers Manu like 9 million for a one year contract, one wonders if it would be too good for Gino to hold back. He might not want to leave but as this is likely his last contract...

Not saying it will happen just a hypothetical.

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Okay by me. Since our playoff ouster I have said that next season would be a mini-tank with the current roster. Without completely gutting the team the Spurs simply could not clear enough cap room this season to acquire the pieces to be a legit title contender. But next season could see us free up a lot of space.

Awesome!

I just don't know if it's accurate to say Manu or Pop is holding back young players...

Manu doesn't play big minutes or 82 games a year. It's on these guys to come in and with the minutes they're given, earn them and make the most of them. If they can come in and consistently play well, (not to mention we don't know what happens in the practice and stuff behind the scenes) then they will play more. It would actually help give a guy like Manu a chance to have fresher legs later in the season if guys like Simmons/Anderson play well consistently, on both ends of the court.

Has anyone considered the reason that 38 year old Manu is still the 6th man off the bench is b/c he is still better than the young players on the roster?

I know SA girl has a boner for KA, but he sucks. Sure we can give him more playing time, but at this point he hasn't shown me any reason to believe he can do more than Manu can. Same can be said for Simmons.

Well of course KAs got to do better, no one, even fans, have said otherwise. Im glad we havent picked up any FAs. Bring back Timmy and Manu for one more ride, see what we have with who we have and get some FAs next season. I like next seasons batch anyways

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Originally Posted by Perry Mason

This just isn't true. The bench sucked last year. The starters were the best starting unit in the NBA. As much as TP was only ok, he could still get to the rim now and then and had some nice throwbacks. Manu for the most part can't get to the rim at all. It makes his passing less effective and more predictable. He also started settling for midrange jumpers too much. They are ugly as shite and even worse than TP's.

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Great post :tu

If this fucker gets paid more than the vets min.... :lmao

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Originally Posted by bklynspursfan

I just don't know if it's accurate to say Manu or Pop is holding back young players...

Manu doesn't play big minutes or 82 games a year. It's on these guys to come in and with the minutes they're given, earn them and make the most of them. If they can come in and consistently play well, (not to mention we don't know what happens in the practice and stuff behind the scenes) then they will play more. It would actually help give a guy like Manu a chance to have fresher legs later in the season if guys like Simmons/Anderson play well consistently, on both ends of the court.

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This, tbh. Some part of Pop prolly wants either KA and/or Simmons to force him to give them more minutes, kinda like Green did in his breakout season.

fuck manu if he wants a payday. tosb already preventing the youth movement, now he wants to take more cap space than he is worth

With this contracts teams giving out of course he would
He is greedy

two sides need to decide...

His agent said he knows what the market is
He wants paid