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For the Spurs to complete the Gasol signing, they're working on a trade to move Boris Diaw, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago
For the Spurs to complete the Gasol signing, they're working on a trade to move Boris Diaw, league sources tell @TheVertical.
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Fucking Christ
Glad this fat piece of shit is getting moved after getting complacent...
shed tp...
Ugh...not sure how they improve to the level they need to with having to give Diaw away...
Throw in TP and make it a clean sweep...Quote:
Originally Posted by ducks
He was horrible, last year, but I wouldn't give up on him..he's one of the only matchup advantages vs. GS..
With the increased cap and everybody getting paid, he should be motivated to perform and stay in shape, too..
Yeah, the band is broken without timmy. Trade tp.
Diaw is done. I'm fine with him being traded.
I loved the guy in '14, but since then, hm...
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Originally Posted by BatManu20
It wouldn't have mattered if we were getting the Boris from the past two seasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by montgod
Good tbh. He can take his espresso machine with him.
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Originally Posted by montgod
They really dont but if they gotta move for space oh well
Lose Timmy and Diaw, add Gasol? Seems like a lateral move...
Spurs couldn't get any other FA for $15 million a year??
They don't need to move Diaw, I don't understand this move unless they'd rather use his money on Bertans, LJC, and/or Marjanovich.
Can we include Parker in a "fat Frenchies" package?
Exactly. He was the secret weapon! :depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by HarlemHeat37
The writing was on wall, but I'm still sad if this happens. Last season was a disappointment but he was my favorite guy to watch on this team for the last couple of years.
Does this mean West might stay if the Spurs can offer him appreciably more than the minimum?
Maybe moving Diaw is a sign Tim is staying? because Spurs would have the money for Gasol if Tim was retiring without moving Boris wouldn't they?
Please!Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
Gasol for Duncan/Diaw is a lateral move, at best..more likely a downgrade IMO, if you consider Diaw is potentially one of the few advantages vs. GS..
Thank you for 2014 but it's obvious he wore out his welcome. Hoping he'll get motivated enough to get in shape for the 3rd straight season is a losing proposition and Pop knows that. This is the right move.
Would have rather keep Diaw than sign Pau. Gasol is going to be insignificant against the Warriors. Meh, anything would probably be insignificant against the Warriors anyways.
Interesting if they could work Gibson/Snell (Kawhi's old teammate) for Diaw/Mills...type of trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
Would rather keep Boris and Manu and take chances with Milutinov or Willie effin Reed than sign Pau
Absolutely, but who would take him?Quote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
That would be solid. Gibson is a decent backup for AldridgeQuote:
Originally Posted by montgod
Tim/Bobo >>>> Gasol. People are deluding themselves if they think the Spurs have any chance next year against GS.
Boris has been one of my favorite Spurs ever so this so I'm upset about this. I also think he's one of the few guys we have that can play vs. GS but I guess Pop's just tired of his laziness.
Bye Bobo... :cry :bobo
They only have about $10 mil in cap space before trading him.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Parker/Diaw for Jimmy Butler PLEASE.
That still don't help us opening up capspace, tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
Now I start to feel why Lorbek was worked up.
you're deluding yourself if you think Tim was going to be anything but older and slower next year and that Boris would recover from being a complacent fatass brahQuote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
About damn time. Should have let his lard ass go after '14.
There is no realistic move the Spurs can make to beat the warriors now. The only thing they can build now is something entertaning. They wont be in the finals for a long time, start understanding that reality.
With Jimmy Butler we can beat them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
True only gives about a million space. Spurs could always throw in a Simmons, LJC or someone as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by szkorhetz
Too bad Spurs can't pry away one of those cheap rookie contract bigs from Philly
Tim is retiring and Bobo will never get in shape. Gasol is the right move. This is all probably moot given either scenario still puts us at a huge disadvantage against GS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Haha! You wish! No way Chicago does that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
Combined they're better. Gasol individually is the best of the three right now, but he has the same limitations as Tim while Bobo gives the Spurs the only mismatch they had against the Dubs. On top of that it'd be a contract year for Bobo ala 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
We are a defensive PG away from giving the dubs fits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spurs9
With Diaw and West most likely gone does that mean Bonner will be the backup PF?
I agree somewhat but still, they're not a combined player :lol and Duncan retiring is his own personal decision. So basically Spurs are going with Gasol over Diaw which, given the last season, is probably the right move. Spurs can only do so much, unfortunately the best team got the best FA and that just fucks everything else up :depressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Contract year for Diaw would prolly be enough to motivate him. I'd rather have Diaw 2.0 than current Gasol.Quote:
Originally Posted by myhc
Seems to me there is no need to move Diaw if TD were retiring. Looks to me like he might stick around to give us a big three rotation.
LMA - $20.6MQuote:
Originally Posted by BG_Spurs_Fan
Kawhi - $17.6M
Parker - $14.5M
Green - $10.0M
Diaw - $7.0M
Mills - $3.2M
Duncan - $2.1M (stretch provision applied)
Anderson - $1.1M
Simmons - $0.9M
4 roster spots under 12 - $2.0M
TOTAL: $79.0M
CAPSPACE: $15.0M
Diaw + DG + Mills + whoever for Butler....been reading lots about Rondo makes Butler not happy and Chicago wanting a clean slate etc...
If Diaw is being let go, it just shows that PATFO is putting their trust in the point forward position to Kyle Anderson
My original statement was implying that the Spurs got worse this offseason. Yes they aren't the same player but I'd rather have those two over Gasol. Honestly, I think I'd rather have Bobo 2.0 over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
They could get a much better deal than that:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by peacemaker885
could see spurs and hawks doing something
You're forgetting Murray and Manu's cap holds. LJC also.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Yes, but this likely means that they intend to sign Boban and are leaving the $5,628,000 available if needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Kony
So if Tim retires his salary still counts against the cap?Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
To be fair, it's slim either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
Manu is likely to be renounced and signed to a minimum deal. You're right about the cap holds for Murray and LJC, but they're each only about $450k extra than the cap hold for the empty roster spot under 12 anyways. So yeah, maybe they have to cut $1.4M of salary to give Gasol $15M.Quote:
Originally Posted by objective
:lol Today's Boris Diaw
TruQuote:
Originally Posted by timtonymanu
You may not have taken into account cap holds to Murray, Mulutinov, and LJC nor Bobans cap hold. Basketball insiders doesn't factor that in for some reason but they have it further down the page.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Yes yes a million times yes. But who the fuck would play PGQuote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
Is Mulutinov coming over? Boban is getting renounced unless they salary dump Diaw to sign him.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
if he is stretched then he will get payed $2.1 million for the 16-17, 17-18, 18-19 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttsR4rebounding
they are trading him for capspaceQuote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
That's what I was hoping for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leetonidas
Why would Chicago ever do this? :lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
His cap hold still applies. He may still come over this year but it still counts for the moment until the Spurs inform the league that he is staying overseas, I believe. I would think that they keep Boban and because his RFA QA is so low and they are short on bigs (LMA, Gasol, West?,)Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
good
Who would be the best suitors for Diaw. What could we get?, picks, money, player?
Would love to get Nerlens Noel at 4mil
:pop: http://i.imgur.com/vB9B5.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by dbestpro
Maybe you know this but LJC is still listed on his rookie scale cap hold despite three seasons having past, I thought after 3 years abroad. that 1st rounders could not be held to rookie scale. If he does get $990,000 starting out on a four year deal that is good news considering the Spurs could have five or six players making less than the vet min. ($1.55 million for 10+ year vets)Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
I would imagine one of Milutinov or Boban to be on the roster.
But it becomes a risky game I suppose. If the Spurs have to turn in Gasol paperwork and secure a Milutinov staying in Europe letter to clear the cap space, and then someone signs Boban to a restricted sheet the Spurs can't/won't match, I guess they'd really be screwed.
Don't know if they can change their minds and get to bring Milutinov over in that case
we were never going to get better with timmy retiring.. we should be glad for what we can do and take it as we can.. i mean, it's not like we're paying mozgovQuote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
I would imagine that it would have to be Diaw and Mills but I doubt that gets it done. I think that it is a straight up salary dump. I think New Orleans would be interested with Gentry. They have a tendency to give 1st rounders out like Oprah does new cars. I'd be cool with a couple of second rounders from a team that might not make the PS. Phoenix might be an option too off the top of my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSpur
:lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverSpur
Couldn't the Spurs have all four?Quote:
Originally Posted by objective
LMA- West (Maybe) LJC
Gasol-Boban-Milutinov
I think RFA starts on the 7th which could allow the Spurs time to get an offer together for Boban.
Don't know if they can change their minds and get to bring Milutinov over in that case.
Most likely Boris is getting moved to create space for the other FAs (Manu/D-Worst/Boban) rather than Pau.Quote:
Originally Posted by baseline bum
Can't do a S&T w/ a 1+1 deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by NASpurs
The Raptors would be the perfect landing spot for Boris since they really need a PF & just lost out on Pau.
this is a trade level gsw / lakers fanQuote:
Originally Posted by Emperor
As I mentioned earlier, I still think that Duncan's salary being packaged as part of a trade... just prior to Timmy retiring is in play here.
No idea. I'd be happy with Milutinov on the roster also, just seems dicey with his cap hold and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by cd021
Diaw looked washed up last season, but the energy he brought in the 2014 playoffs helped this team win the NBA title so his play will be missed a bit. Still you choose Gasol over Diaw anytime.
I believe that Diaw's feelings got hurt when they brought in West and he lost minutes. He wasn't the first big off the bench anymore. The more minutes he lost, the more he got miffed and didn't try. And got fat. And if there is anything Pop can't stand is a player that won't compete for his minutes. You could tell how pissed Pop was when he gave Diaw a DNP during the playoffs. Just my take, but jealousy explains a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperCam
Same thing happened with Malik Rose after they brought in Horry, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
So Timmy/Diaw for Pau? Smh tbh.
Good call. Bowen style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solid D
then he should have been released immediately. wtf is wrong with kids today?Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill2u
So right now the frontline depth is as follows assuming Diaw is traded and Duncan retires...
C- Gasol, Boban (?)
PF - Aldridge, Jean-Charles
SF - Leonard, Anderson, Bertans...
My hope is that they add Milutinov. Yes, he is raw, but he has what Gasol and Boban do not have, mobility. Based on what players are going for in this free agency it makes sense to go with Milutinov as well.
Boris to raptors for picks
Raptors lost backup center
Lorbek is in the summer league. Who knows he might be on the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by eDizzle20
I'm fine with trading away Boris. I'm not fine with salary dumping him and getting nothing in return.
S&T diaw parker n green for Pau & Jimmy Butler
Work out the math for me
I bet he ends up in Toronto.
Not bad news. Get rid of Porker too
Duncan is done, bro. If he's truly retiring, then that mean the knee is shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robz4000
And Diaw is a dice roll. Yes, Pau is worse than 2014 Diaw and Duncan, but better than 2016 Diaw and post-wheel-falling off Duncan.
According to PTRhttp://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...asols-contractQuote:
Boris has reportedly told the team that he has a list of five teams that he would like to be moved to, and the team is trying to make a deal with one of those teams.